First cleaning bed pans and changing linens is not worth your mentioning it and secondly I didn't say I was a health professional. Now we have some insight into your abilities to comprehend complex ideas.
Retracted Autism study declared a fraud
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You are absolutely right about people not dying from the flu, but it contributes to the death. Kind of like how most people die from heart failure.Flu deaths are caused by complications that arise, not the flu itself. People with old or underdeveloped and/or weakened immune systems, poor respiratory systems are the ones who get fatally ill after a flu.
Electron microscope video footage of mercury destroying brain cells is pretty strong science.
The MMR shot causes swelling in the stomachs, which causes a reaction in the brain, which causes problems that are often permanent.
When mercury is removed aluminium is added. It too is toxic.
A human baby is still very much like a fetus in that the baby is not even close to being ready for the world. The bones are soft, the eyes don't focus, and most importantly is that the immune system is not finished developing. The first thing doctors want to do is inject the baby with vaccines. If vaccines are supposed to suppliment immune action then it does not make sense to bombard the undeveloped immune system. The bombardment impairs it, and now the immune system is not going to develop correctly.
Vaccines are injected into the muscle.
Our immune systems evolved to be strongest in the airways into the lungs and the passage into the stomach.
Our stomachs are hostile environments for whatever gets in there.
Whatever makes it past these natural safe-guards is then dealt with in the blood.
When a vax is injected into the muscle it bypasses these systems and the immune system does more work than it evolved for. It's called immune shock. That is why the flue shot causes people to become terribly ill when they receive it.
There are no autistic people or people with developmental disorders anywhere in my family. This is not a personal issue I am looking to recover from.
Flu shots are Bull because the virus mutates faster than they can develop vax for. They guess at it and sell the guesswork.
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Yes, it is guess work, but it is really good guesswork buttress by a lot of stats/knowledge/history. The mutation rates are different for different stains and the matches don't have to be exact.
I think it is just a matter of growing awareness. Back in the 1960s I was unusual, so I tried to fit in, my mother punished me for not fitting in, and today, I can fit in in an acceptable manner. My son born in the 90s was unusual, so we had him diagnosed with an ASD. He is less of a freak than I was, but there is now the awareness of these things that there was not before. Now the trend is for parents to embrace this things as excuses for special treatment, where in the past they tried to punish you to make you normal.SOMETHING sure is causing kids to be born with autism at an alarming rate comapred to 30 years ago. If not vaccines, then something else. What it is is the 64,000 question.
Heart failure kills you.
The flu weakens you.
You get the flu and feel like shit because your body is fighting it. If you get another illness at the same time you are in serious trouble. Or if you already have a (respiratory) problem when you get the flu you have a serious problem. Consider the flu to be a gateway in worst case scenarios.
The flu weakens you.
You get the flu and feel like shit because your body is fighting it. If you get another illness at the same time you are in serious trouble. Or if you already have a (respiratory) problem when you get the flu you have a serious problem. Consider the flu to be a gateway in worst case scenarios.
Somebody gets it.I think it is just a matter of growing awareness. Back in the 1960s I was unusual, so I tried to fit in, my mother punished me for not fitting in, and today, I can fit in in an acceptable manner. My son born in the 90s was unusual, so we had him diagnosed with an ASD. He is less of a freak than I was, but there is now the awareness of these things that there was not before. Now the trend is for parents to embrace this things as excuses for special treatment, where in the past they tried to punish you to make you normal.
Yes, the flu is the vector for death, but if you can lessen the chance of getting the flu or passing it on by getting the shot why wouldn't you? As I said most medical people I work with get it and they know more than I ever will. They don't have any positions to protect, no statements to make, nor salesperson to get freebies from, so I do the same as I may not be allowed to do my work if my inoculation passport shows I haven't had my boosters.Heart failure kills you.
The flu weakens you.
You get the flu and feel like shit because your body is fighting it. If you get another illness at the same time you are in serious trouble. Or if you already have a (respiratory) problem when you get the flu you have a serious problem. Consider the flu to be a gateway in worst case scenarios.
Heart failure is the end result of another conditions action on the body. It's also used as a catch-all term on death certificates.
If you really did pay attention to what people posted in TERB, I've mentioned in past threads what I do or have done for a living and it's nothing to do with bed pan or changing linens.LOL, classic Blackrock. And I thought you had something to say.
I guess you best get back to those bed pans and linens being the health professional you aren't.
BTW don't forget to wash your hands.
You do not have to have any medical procedures of any kind performed on you a prerequisite to employment.
The health care facilities use words like "protocol" when informing staff of their "obligation" to immunize themselves. It is simply not the case. It is in fact unconstitutional. I have done research into this because a friend was being denied placement in a hospital without updating their immunization. Long story short, several emails, phone calls and lots of reading of official Canadian law, you cannot be forced to do it. When I was done the placement was not blocked and I was asked not to cause any more problems, meaning to "shut up."
The same goes for children is school. Not mandatory, and the process for children is far easier. Just sign a (specific) document and let the school photocopy it.
As for the people you work with, I am not surprised. I am not surprised that I am being "black-sheeped" with my views and I am not surprised that the autism study was attacked. Big pharma has a massive interest in keeping people sick and believing in their wares.
But the bottom line is not changing people's minds here. We are Constitutionally in the Right to have our beliefs and to express them. The bottom line is INFORMED CONSENT as opposed to blind consent. Whatever the masses are doing is not necessarily correct, true or Right and so everyone is responsible for making themselves informed prior to anything. If you have done your homework and you buy into the vax idea, then you're informed in your consent. Done.
The health care facilities use words like "protocol" when informing staff of their "obligation" to immunize themselves. It is simply not the case. It is in fact unconstitutional. I have done research into this because a friend was being denied placement in a hospital without updating their immunization. Long story short, several emails, phone calls and lots of reading of official Canadian law, you cannot be forced to do it. When I was done the placement was not blocked and I was asked not to cause any more problems, meaning to "shut up."
The same goes for children is school. Not mandatory, and the process for children is far easier. Just sign a (specific) document and let the school photocopy it.
As for the people you work with, I am not surprised. I am not surprised that I am being "black-sheeped" with my views and I am not surprised that the autism study was attacked. Big pharma has a massive interest in keeping people sick and believing in their wares.
But the bottom line is not changing people's minds here. We are Constitutionally in the Right to have our beliefs and to express them. The bottom line is INFORMED CONSENT as opposed to blind consent. Whatever the masses are doing is not necessarily correct, true or Right and so everyone is responsible for making themselves informed prior to anything. If you have done your homework and you buy into the vax idea, then you're informed in your consent. Done.
You don't need to go to court to refuse unless you're fired. And this happened with the H1N1 in New York - so many people fired for refusal, and they won in court.Sure its unconstitutional but how many are going to try to take that to court, they'd rather get the shot and get on with their "life".
As for consent - people will consent to anything the media instills fear about, they won't do their research, they believe its been already done for them. Poor suffering souls.
I see your point, but it I prefer to do what I can without trying to force a mind-change on someone. I hounded friends with kids for years, and they vaccinated all the time. It put a strain there. Then one day he starts spreading the same word as me and stops giving the kid vax. Strange. People do what they're going to do, and we can't stop them.
It's just as frustrating for vax believers to talk to us when WE don't listen. I used to YELL at people who told me to avoid the vax. I would ask them who the hell are they to argue with a doctor who spends all their lives in school, and then follow the dr. Now when the dr tries to give me a vax I politely decline.
May I ask where did you get this info?Not to mention Denmark where thimerosal was never used.
Words like protocol and obligation have never been used in my presence by contemporaries and no one i work with have expressed that concerned but there are those that feel oppressed if their told what to do and they will always be vocal. I'm no fan of big pharma and on a couple of occasions have had major discussion with the medical professional when friends or family members are talking 7, 8, 9 different medications to do what and at what cost (not $). No one has a complete understanding what interactions exist when the number of meds reaches that point. It is at best an educated guess. Much of science is based on educated guesses.You do not have to have any medical procedures of any kind performed on you a prerequisite to employment.
The health care facilities use words like "protocol" when informing staff of their "obligation" to immunize themselves. It is simply not the case. It is in fact unconstitutional. I have done research into this because a friend was being denied placement in a hospital without updating their immunization. Long story short, several emails, phone calls and lots of reading of official Canadian law, you cannot be forced to do it. When I was done the placement was not blocked and I was asked not to cause any more problems, meaning to "shut up."
The same goes for children is school. Not mandatory, and the process for children is far easier. Just sign a (specific) document and let the school photocopy it.
As for the people you work with, I am not surprised. I am not surprised that I am being "black-sheeped" with my views and I am not surprised that the autism study was attacked. Big pharma has a massive interest in keeping people sick and believing in their wares.
But the bottom line is not changing people's minds here. We are Constitutionally in the Right to have our beliefs and to express them. The bottom line is INFORMED CONSENT as opposed to blind consent. Whatever the masses are doing is not necessarily correct, true or Right and so everyone is responsible for making themselves informed prior to anything. If you have done your homework and you buy into the vax idea, then you're informed in your consent. Done.
It will be interesting what the final figures for this years flu season are in, since early numbers are spiking higher than las t year and many people are choosing not get the shots because of last years coverage and supposed non event.
Newspapers and professional magazines.May I ask where did you get this info?
I recall that this was why Denmark was used as the "control". Perhaps Danmand with better connections there could provide you a reference.
You are just as dead.Flu deaths are caused by complications that arise, not the flu itself.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...days-giving-birth-son-death-toll-hits-50.html
Speaking from personal experience this has never happened to me, however, I have been dogone sick with the flu.That is why the flue shot causes people to become terribly ill when they receive it.
Originally Posted by localwebguy;
'That is why the flu shot causes people to become terribly ill when they receive it.'
What percentage of people get sick from receiving the shots? Using this argument should also keep you from getting any medication because most have serious side effects. Please don't bring up the Guillain Barré argument as that's a 1 in a million chance, twice that of of getting struck by lightning.
From a source who knows more than everyone on this BB, read the 12 Q&A and learn;
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/flushot.htm
'That is why the flu shot causes people to become terribly ill when they receive it.'
What percentage of people get sick from receiving the shots? Using this argument should also keep you from getting any medication because most have serious side effects. Please don't bring up the Guillain Barré argument as that's a 1 in a million chance, twice that of of getting struck by lightning.
From a source who knows more than everyone on this BB, read the 12 Q&A and learn;
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/flushot.htm
How about doctors being aware enough about it to diagnosine it? Up until about 15 years ago, all except for the most extreme cases of ASD were just "that weird kid".SOMETHING sure is causing kids to be born with autism at an alarming rate comapred to 30 years ago. If not vaccines, then something else. What it is is the 64,000 question.
More mercury in a can of tuna than in any vaccine....
Electron microscope video footage of mercury destroying brain cells is pretty strong science.
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Or it could be that the study was a piece of garbage put together to make the guy money. It's hard to tell the difference between wakefield, a con artist, and a faith healer....
As for the people you work with, I am not surprised. I am not surprised that I am being "black-sheeped" with my views and I am not surprised that the autism study was attacked. Big pharma has a massive interest in keeping people sick and believing in their wares.....
I love these arguments.Its ok to deny being biased. The numbers clearly show that the vaccine has had little to no effect on the number of deaths from flu versus previous years where no mass vaccination campaign occured....
Fact 1: large numbers of people who normally don't get immunized got the H1N1 shot
Fact 2: flu rates were lower than normal
Possible conclusion 1: the flu was overhyped
Possible conclusion 2: the much larger than normal body of immune people prevented the flu from spreading
It is difficult to prove one hypothesis over the other with absolute certainty
Fact 3: there was a very low incidence of severe adverse reactions to the vaccine
Conclusion 3: getting the vaccine has a strong potential to benefit society as a whole with an extremely minimal risk. Why not get the shot?
