RIP Gipper
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"There was the impossible valor of the Poles, who threw themselves between the enemy and the rest of Europe as the invasion took hold, and the unsurpassed courage of the Canadians who had already seen the horrors of war on this coast. They knew what awaited them there, but they would not be deterred. And once they hit Juno Beach, they never looked back".
June 6, 1984
June 6, 1984
A Great One!
"We who live in free market societies believe that growth, prosperity and ultimately human fulfillment, are created from the bottom up, not the government down. Only when the human spirit is allowed to invent and create, only when individuals are given a personal stake in deciding economic policies and benefitting from their success -- only then can societies remain economically alive, dynamic, progressive, and free. Trust the people. This is the one irrefutable lesson of the entire postwar period contradicting the notion that rigid government controls are essential to economic development."
-- Ronald Reagan
"We who live in free market societies believe that growth, prosperity and ultimately human fulfillment, are created from the bottom up, not the government down. Only when the human spirit is allowed to invent and create, only when individuals are given a personal stake in deciding economic policies and benefitting from their success -- only then can societies remain economically alive, dynamic, progressive, and free. Trust the people. This is the one irrefutable lesson of the entire postwar period contradicting the notion that rigid government controls are essential to economic development."
-- Ronald Reagan
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I don't think there will be another face on Mount Rusmore but if there were it would be FDR and Reagan.danmand said:
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God Bless President Reagan
I join my neighbours to the south in mourning the loss of their former president. From what I remember of him in the 80's and watching the stories on CNN, etc he was a well liked president by many american citizens!
My heart goes out to President Reagans family and friends. May they be comforted knowing he as at peace
I join my neighbours to the south in mourning the loss of their former president. From what I remember of him in the 80's and watching the stories on CNN, etc he was a well liked president by many american citizens!
My heart goes out to President Reagans family and friends. May they be comforted knowing he as at peace
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I never really took the time to watch any of his movies & never really liked him as president but he did a great job reading the lines that he was given and the men in suits behind the scenes (GHB) accomplished great things with Ronny at the helm.
I think his greatest accomplishment was that he rid the world of the communist threat at the time by simply outspending the commies into oblivion.
I cannot remember anything else that he did other than free trade with Canada, but most americans think that is costing them millions of jobs.
I think his greatest accomplishment was that he rid the world of the communist threat at the time by simply outspending the commies into oblivion.
I cannot remember anything else that he did other than free trade with Canada, but most americans think that is costing them millions of jobs.
Larry King the Don Cherry of CNN ?
The Reagan legacy has aged well . In some respects far better than when he was in in office . Remember the snide remarks about his naps and others about Nancy really running things ....Iran-Contra etc. Largely forgotten and seemingly unimportant now .
In the end he is remembered as one of the few modern day leaders with principles . He was also said to have had not much of an ego . Being remembered for living by what you believed .......there are a lot of worse things than that isn't there .
The Reagan legacy has aged well . In some respects far better than when he was in in office . Remember the snide remarks about his naps and others about Nancy really running things ....Iran-Contra etc. Largely forgotten and seemingly unimportant now .
In the end he is remembered as one of the few modern day leaders with principles . He was also said to have had not much of an ego . Being remembered for living by what you believed .......there are a lot of worse things than that isn't there .
Didn't he once have an open mike moment after a radio interview where he said 'we launch the missiles in 10 minutes'? Oh yes, the 80's, Reagan and Thatcher!
An affable POTUS.
One might not agree with all of his views, but Ronald Reagan was a man one could respect. I always appreciated his courteous demeanor and civility and his sense of humor. Those are great qualities to have, as they bridge the divide of differing opinions.
One might not agree with all of his views, but Ronald Reagan was a man one could respect. I always appreciated his courteous demeanor and civility and his sense of humor. Those are great qualities to have, as they bridge the divide of differing opinions.
Ironically.....
A few years ago I was practically tarred and feathered in university for asserting that history would prove that Reagan was one of the better presidents of this century. His legacy will prove to be far more valuable today than when initially implemented.
- beating the communists without firing a shot against the Russians - supressing communist growth around the world - responsible for the largest economic boom since the depression - appointing the first woman to the supreme court (why didn't Jimmy "I'm a democrat, cant get the hostages out of Iran" do that?) - showing absolute resolve with : the air traffic controllers strike, your friend and mine Mr."I'll put a sidewinder in your front lawn" Khadaffi , Gorbachev (tear down this wall).
Yes he had his shortcomings....but those were outweighed by his accompishments. He was always in communion with the people, and it is this sincerity, this demeanor that the people responded to.
In the end the Gipper did get the win.
A few years ago I was practically tarred and feathered in university for asserting that history would prove that Reagan was one of the better presidents of this century. His legacy will prove to be far more valuable today than when initially implemented.
- beating the communists without firing a shot against the Russians - supressing communist growth around the world - responsible for the largest economic boom since the depression - appointing the first woman to the supreme court (why didn't Jimmy "I'm a democrat, cant get the hostages out of Iran" do that?) - showing absolute resolve with : the air traffic controllers strike, your friend and mine Mr."I'll put a sidewinder in your front lawn" Khadaffi , Gorbachev (tear down this wall).
Yes he had his shortcomings....but those were outweighed by his accompishments. He was always in communion with the people, and it is this sincerity, this demeanor that the people responded to.
In the end the Gipper did get the win.
I admired his optimism and outlook, and belief in the individual and smaller govt - but history will not judge this president as well as his current popularity might suggest.
He had some good international actions, and also seeded many of the current crisis - he built bin Laden, many of the weapons he gave him were used against the US (semtex used in African embassies), gave WMD to Iraq and built Saddam into the regional strong man he was, supported/protected corrupt dicatorships and actually reduced democracy in select regions like South America. HE was responsible for Iran Contra directly, and "ultimately responsible" for the actions of his underlings such as Casey at CIA who perpetrated significant illegal acts - such as the Beirut car bombings which helped create the Hezbollah - and Haig who gave Areil Sharon cover for his Lebanon invasion. 20 years isnt enough to consider a mans place in history - and nobody will ever do anything correct - but in retrospect, the US planted seeds of disaster among the positive ops - that will ultimately be worse than had he left them alone. To say that he "won the cold war" would indicate the poor knowledge of anyone who utters it - West Germany and BMWs did as much to convince the communists they had a bad system. Reagan helped in severl areas - but to credit him as the victor is just dumb. On balance he did some great things, but to paint his presidency so highly indicates a lack of perspective.
Domesticly he brought in a period of exessive consumerism and materialism that while it seemed great at the time, may prove to be an aspect of the US's undoing long term. S&L crisis, 1987 stock crash - these are all excesses that need no have happened.
Then again, although naively trusting people was one of his faults, he was a good man who earnestly tried to do the right thing - and personally was very balanced in key issues like Isreal - although those underneath him undercut him alot - Haig, Shultz and surprise, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeldt.
He did have a classy exit though - a horrible way to go.
He had some good international actions, and also seeded many of the current crisis - he built bin Laden, many of the weapons he gave him were used against the US (semtex used in African embassies), gave WMD to Iraq and built Saddam into the regional strong man he was, supported/protected corrupt dicatorships and actually reduced democracy in select regions like South America. HE was responsible for Iran Contra directly, and "ultimately responsible" for the actions of his underlings such as Casey at CIA who perpetrated significant illegal acts - such as the Beirut car bombings which helped create the Hezbollah - and Haig who gave Areil Sharon cover for his Lebanon invasion. 20 years isnt enough to consider a mans place in history - and nobody will ever do anything correct - but in retrospect, the US planted seeds of disaster among the positive ops - that will ultimately be worse than had he left them alone. To say that he "won the cold war" would indicate the poor knowledge of anyone who utters it - West Germany and BMWs did as much to convince the communists they had a bad system. Reagan helped in severl areas - but to credit him as the victor is just dumb. On balance he did some great things, but to paint his presidency so highly indicates a lack of perspective.
Domesticly he brought in a period of exessive consumerism and materialism that while it seemed great at the time, may prove to be an aspect of the US's undoing long term. S&L crisis, 1987 stock crash - these are all excesses that need no have happened.
Then again, although naively trusting people was one of his faults, he was a good man who earnestly tried to do the right thing - and personally was very balanced in key issues like Isreal - although those underneath him undercut him alot - Haig, Shultz and surprise, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeldt.
He did have a classy exit though - a horrible way to go.
Good points! And that begs the question, to what extent do the times make the man or to what extent does the man make the times?Cobra1 said:
Regardless of political affliation, he is one of the two US presidents I have deep respect with.
He makes people proud to be the Americans.
Funny why Qadafi is "muzzled" and no tips of terror attacks from Libya.
The only major disagreement with him will be he endorsed the CIA to arm the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan when the Soviet striked first to stop the flow of Islamic fundamentalism. He was totally responsible for creating the Islamic fundamentalists monsters like Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan.
Funny in retrospect both the Americans and the Russians were very concern on the spread of Islamic terrorism after the Ayatollahs deposed the Shah, it turned out the Soviet started the preemption to stop Afghanistan being sandwitched by the Shia theorcacy and the quasi Sunni theocracy in Pakistan.
History would not be the same if both the US and the Soviet Union joined together and "nip the bud" on Iran. Regretably, the right wing conservatives would rather kick the Godless/atheist SOBs than kicking more dangerous and resilient another God fearing SOBs.
In the meantime, may he rest in peace and God bless America.
He makes people proud to be the Americans.
Funny why Qadafi is "muzzled" and no tips of terror attacks from Libya.
The only major disagreement with him will be he endorsed the CIA to arm the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan when the Soviet striked first to stop the flow of Islamic fundamentalism. He was totally responsible for creating the Islamic fundamentalists monsters like Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan.
Funny in retrospect both the Americans and the Russians were very concern on the spread of Islamic terrorism after the Ayatollahs deposed the Shah, it turned out the Soviet started the preemption to stop Afghanistan being sandwitched by the Shia theorcacy and the quasi Sunni theocracy in Pakistan.
History would not be the same if both the US and the Soviet Union joined together and "nip the bud" on Iran. Regretably, the right wing conservatives would rather kick the Godless/atheist SOBs than kicking more dangerous and resilient another God fearing SOBs.
In the meantime, may he rest in peace and God bless America.
The most damning thing anyone said about him on last night's news, was that without being more than moderately conservative himself, he made conservative extremism respectable. Extremism should of course, never be respectable.
And the USA took quite some time recovering from the deficit his tax cuts created; the poor never did recover and are worse off than before him, the rich? Well they've never had it so good. And more extremely conservative cuts are on the way.
Just like the current President, he was a good guy people believed, liked and wanted to follow, a guy who left the hard jobs of ruling to his trusted experts—who nobody voted for, and whose agenda was neither open, nor honourable, nor in the interests of the whole country.
There's a story about a Hollywood mogul, awoke from a coma to find Reagan was president, "Oh no, not Ronnie, Edmund O'Brien for President, Reagan for best friend" And he probably was from all accounts.
And the USA took quite some time recovering from the deficit his tax cuts created; the poor never did recover and are worse off than before him, the rich? Well they've never had it so good. And more extremely conservative cuts are on the way.
Just like the current President, he was a good guy people believed, liked and wanted to follow, a guy who left the hard jobs of ruling to his trusted experts—who nobody voted for, and whose agenda was neither open, nor honourable, nor in the interests of the whole country.
There's a story about a Hollywood mogul, awoke from a coma to find Reagan was president, "Oh no, not Ronnie, Edmund O'Brien for President, Reagan for best friend" And he probably was from all accounts.
Some artist is now putting a sitting bull face i think started bout 8 years ago i think its supposed to be done in 2012.onthebottom said:
"In closing let me thank you,the American people,for giving me the great honor of allowing me to serve as your president.When the Lord calls me home,whenever that may be,I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours and eternal optimism for its future. I now begn the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life.I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead. Thankyou my friends.May God bless you Sincerely Ronald Reagan. Nov,1994. May God Bless and comfort your family through these difficult days ahead.
