Rona Ambrose twists facts in commons

[slowpoke]

This is just a small indication that Rona Ambrose may be less than trustworthy as our environment minister . Obviously this was an attempt to distort the record of the previous government. Her claim that the Libereals had spent $100 million on carbon credits was clearly bogus and a sleazy attempt at misrepresentation. She's not to be trusted. Trust me.....


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...0/carbon_credits_061010/20061010?hub=Politics

Ambrose wrong on carbon credits, officials concede
Updated Tue. Oct. 10 2006 11:06 PM ET

Canadian Press

OTTAWA -- Environment Minister Rona Ambrose gave incorrect information on a key environment issue while appearing before a Commons committee last week.



The Conservative government now admits the previous Liberal regime did not spend a penny purchasing international carbon credits, contrary to claims by Ambrose, who told the Commons environment committee Liberals spent "at least $100 million'' buying the credits.

Ambrose cited a long list of specific foreign projects, but her office now says that list was for the Canada Climate Change Development Fund, a separate program.

The admission came only after media asked to see the list that Ambrose had cited.

While buying foreign credits was part of the Liberal plan to meet Canada's commitment under the Kyoto protocol, officials now say not a cent was spent purchasing the credits, which would have counted against the amount of carbon emissions Canada needed to reduce to meet Kyoto targets.

NDP MP Nathan Cullen, one of the members of the Commons environment committee, says Ambrose trotted out the $100-million figure in response to a "softball question'' by a fellow Conservative MP; he wants Ambrose to reappear at the committee to set the record straight.

 

[LancsLad]

I'd like some time with her to work on various positions as regards this issue.

Must really piss people off that we have the upper hand now.

Love it.

 

[sorely]

Ambrose is a bimbo "toady" who , like so many of the neo-cons with Harper, are terrified of their leader , stay right lock-step(sp?) in line and are afraid to speak their own minds, assuming they have minds .

These are not people we want running our country. We already have a similar mentality going on south of the 49th!!!

 

[sorely]

I'd be tempted to cut Ambrose a bit of slack. She's no dummy; if she provided wrong information, it's likely because her staff got it wrong. And if she's willing to set the record straight, I don't really see any need for gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands on the issue.

At best she is a dummy!

 

[Neverenuff$]

Ambrose is full of crap , there is no way that the Liberals would EVER have wasted even one of our tax dollars !!

 

[slowpoke]

I'd be tempted to cut Ambrose a bit of slack. She's no dummy; if she provided wrong information, it's likely because her staff got it wrong. And if she's willing to set the record straight, I don't really see any need for gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands on the issue.

As I said, this is only a small indication that she is not to be trusted. The wringing and gnashing are your words - not mine. However, I do find it hard to believe that she would not have her facts straight about the Libs spending over $100 million. Possible but not really very likely.

 

[sorely]

there will surely be more miscues to come.

No kidding !!!

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

However, I do find it hard to believe that she would not have her facts straight about the Libs spending over $100 million. Possible but not really very likely.

I don't know, it seems to me it's relatively easy for a government to lose track of $100 million. Just ask Paul Coffin or Chuck Guite.

 

[slowpoke]

I'd like some time with her to work on various positions as regards this issue.

Must really piss people off that we have the upper hand now.

Love it.

What is pissing me off is the very distinct possibility that yet another of our fed gov't employees is either incompetent or a lying little shit. Take your pick. If that doesn't bother you, then you need to ask yourself why. Some of us are actually concerned about the quality of the people we employ in Ottawa. As a self-professed big shot entrepreneur, I am surprised that you are so comfortable with Ambrose's shoddy work. Do you know what any of your other employees are up to? Maybe you should go take a look. We'll wait here......

 

[Never Compromised]

She's no dummy; if she provided wrong information, it's likely because her staff got it wrong.

Have you noticed who her chief of staff is? No wonder her information was faulty.

Ideology trumps reality in her office.

 

[slowpoke]

Have you noticed who her chief of staff is? No wonder her information was faulty.

Ideology trumps reality in her office.

For those who hadn't noticed:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrel_Reid


Darrel R. Reid (born June 3, 1957, in Grande Prairie, Alberta; PhD Queens 1994) is a Canadian politician. Reid, who did his PhD on the history of Victorian Society, served as Director of Policy and Research for the Reform Party of Canada. In May 1996 he became Preston Manning's chief of staff. [1] Soon afterwards he ran unsuccessfully as a Reform Party of Canada candidate for the riding of Lanark—Carleton in the 1997 federal election.

From 1998 to 2004 he was the president of the evangelical Christian organization Focus on the Family Canada. He promoted conservative Christian family values while actively campaigning against issues such as divorce, abortion and same-sex relationships. [2] He resigned from this position to campaign for the federal Richmond riding nomination, which he won. During this period he served as the Vice-President of Current Corporation of Port Moody, British Columbia, a position he later resigned to run in the subsequent federal election.

After his election loss, Reid took on the position of Vice President Project Development for the Work Research Foundation, an organization with the stated mission to “influence people to a Christian view of work and public life.” Bowing out of the Richmond Conservative Party riding association’s nomination battle in September 2006, he then announced he was taking over the chief of staff position for Environment Minister Rona Ambrose in Ottawa.

2006 Campaign to Become a Richmond M.P.
Darrel Reid became well known outside conservative Christian circles when he ran for M.P. (Member of Parliment) inside the riding for Richmond, British Columbia. He ran under the campaign slogan "What's Right For Richmond," [3] a title later used against him by his opponents. During his campaign, he focused heavily on increasing penalties for drug dealers and reckless drivers, and he wrote numerous articles in local newspapers about his views. He also advocated giving tax breaks to land developers to promote construction of affordable housing. [4]

His campaign strategy was to reach out to conservative Chinese and Sikh families in Richmond, who he believed shared his views. He did this by promising to support an apology and compensation to the Chinese community which once had to pay a discriminatory head tax (Canada). He also praised the entrepreneurial spirit of local Chinese families who have worked hard to create small businesses.

Opposition to Darrel Reid
Darrel Reid was heavily criticized by his opponents for being pro-life, even though he promised not to change Canada's abortion laws at the current time if he was elected. He also said he opposed same sex marriage, but that he did support "registered domestic partnerships" for same sex couples.[5] His critics likened him to fundamentalist politicians in the United States. Reid's social views, while attracting support from both religious Canadians and some conservative ethnic minorities, caused great concern for those who support same-sex marriage, and even for some left leaning Christians.

Darrel Reid's statements sparked several registered third party campaigns, notably the "What's Wrong for Richmond" campaign by a former NDP candidate and avowed secular Humanist, Dale Jackaman (Canadian politician). Reid was attacked for his stated positions on embryonic stem cell research and treatment, gay marriage, abortion rights, and attempted to draw him out on the evolution versus intelligent design debate. These campaigns, and his refusal to publicly address these issues until late in the campaign, and then only in a limited manner, created a climate of suspicion and distrust that he could not overcome.

On January 17, 2005, he declined to be interviewed by Global TV's Vancouver station, sparking a series of media concerns about his lack of accessibility and prompting Liberal press releases accusing him of being "muzzled" by Conservative party leader (and 22nd Prime Minister of Canada) Stephen Harper.

 

[slowpoke]

I don't know, it seems to me it's relatively easy for a government to lose track of $100 million. Just ask Paul Coffin or Chuck Guite.

Yeah - it's very easy to forget what happened to the cash when you're the one who was doing the spending. But would the opposition (CPOC) really "lose track" of $100 million if they could have pinned it on the Liberals for wasting it? Not bloody likely! We'd have never heard the end of it.

 

[DATYdude]

OXYMORON ALERT:

"Conservative Environment Minister"

ya, right.

What's sad is that a true conservative would not approve of the shit we're all making of this planet. Unfortunately the word for that sort is "conservationist".

All hail Emperor David Suzuki!

 

[johnhenrygalt]

We already have a similar mentality going on south of the 49th!!!

South of the 49th as in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritimes?

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

OXYMORON ALERT:

"Conservative Environment Minister"

ya, right.

What's sad is that a true conservative would not approve of the shit we're all making of this planet. Unfortunately the word for that sort is "conservationist".

All hail Emperor David Suzuki!

Since our environmental problems existed long before the existing Conservative government took power, perhaps you could explain to me how "Liberal Environment Miniter" is any less an oxymoron?

Particularly since the Mulrony government did more for the environment than any of the string of Liberal governments that followed it.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Yeah - it's very easy to forget what happened to the cash when you're the one who was doing the spending. But would the opposition (CPOC) really "lose track" of $100 million if they could have pinned it on the Liberals for wasting it? Not bloody likely! We'd have never heard the end of it.

and that's the way it should be

 

[peteeey]

The opposition parties are running the country. Harper doesn't have the guts to implement his agenda.

I'd like some time with her to work on various positions as regards this issue.

Must really piss people off that we have the upper hand now.

Love it.

 

[sorely]

South of the 49th as in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritimes?

I'm not sure but I think only Ontario has a small portion south of the 49th

In any event, I think even you get my drift

 

[Dev0]

Must really piss people off that we have the upper hand now.

When the election was on, the opposition parties (and the media) portrayed Harper as "scary" which probably cost him the majority. Now that Harper has been PM for awhile, people realize that he is not "scary" and in fact a rational person who is doing an admirable job of running the country.

In the coming election look for people that were previously afraid to vote for the "scary Harper", to now cast their vote for him. The Liberals with their cast of leadership hopefuls (duds), have a tough road ahead.The Conservatives will have the upper hand, for the next few years, so get used to it!

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Rae or Ignatieff can out-think Harper in their sleep. Actually,they could probably out-think the entire Con caucus.

This is an interesting comment. You must not have been living in Ontario in the early 90's.

You missed those glorious Bob Rae years when the provincial deficit went from $1 billion to $17 billion and the province was on the verge of financial ruin.

Good times.....