School Shooting In Minnesota With A Twist

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

It absolutely does, but the irony is that those who want gun registries and universal background checks also feel that voter IDs are racist.

No it doesn't.
It doesn't take away anyone's right to own weapons but brings regulations on how those weapons are acquired and/or used.
Voter IDs are called racist because they disproportionately impact people of colour, as studies show that they are less likely to have IDs, preventing them from voting - which is a problem.
The devil is in the details. Try it.

 

[Frankfooter]

Keep them out of women's spaces and leave the kids alone...But ya just can't do that can ya.

You should be way more concerned about the MAGA trump/Epstein pedos than trans.

 

[cunning linguist]

No it doesn't.
It doesn't take away anyone's right to own weapons but brings regulations on how those weapons are acquired and/or used.
Voter IDs are called racist because they disproportionately impact people of colour, as studies show that they are less likely to have IDs, preventing them from voting - which is a problem.
The devil is in the details. Try it.

Liberals: getting a government issued ID and being on a government watch list does not infinge on your rights to own a gun.

Also Liberals: getting a (usually free) government issued ID infringes on your right to vote.

Also Liberals: voter fraud is such a small number, it's basically negligible.

Also Liberals: the small number of irresponsible gun owners somehow represents the majority of gun owners; they're all responsible for gun violence...somehow.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Liberals: getting a government issued ID and being on a government watch list does not infinge on your rights to own a gun.

Yes, it doesn't.

Also Liberals: getting a (usually free) government issued ID infringes on your right to vote.

No. But many who are unable to get IDs, not being able to vote, certainly does.

Also Liberals: voter fraud is such a small number, it's basically negligible.

Yes, this is true,

Also Liberals: the small number of irresponsible gun owners somehow represents the majority of gun owners; they're all responsible for gun violence...somehow.

Non-crime/gang related mass shootings are predominantly conducted using legally acquired weapons, which is a problem to be dealt with.
Anything that is actioned to reduce these instances are inevitably going to affect everyone and this something responsible gun owners should support. You know, because they claim to be "responsible".

 

[cunning linguist]

No. But many who are unable to get IDs, not being able to vote, certainly does.

Translation: if it affects your special interest group of choice, it must be bad. If it affects another group, it's good.

Non-crime/gang related mass shootings are predominantly conducted using legally acquired weapons, which is a problem to be dealt with.
Anything that is actioned to reduce these instances are inevitably going to affect everyone and this something responsible gun owners should support. You know, because they claim to be "responsible".

Interesting that the "non-gang related" disqualifier has to be used to make your argument; shows me that Liberals don't actually care about gun violence. Just look at the sliding scale, case-by-case of what defines a "mass shooting". In fact, I'd go as far to as to claim that Liberals relish news of a "mass shooting", so they can claim a political "gotcha".

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

If it affects another group, it's good.

Yes, that is your argument - People of colour not being able to vote is beneficial to right wingers, so it must be good.

Interesting that the "non-gang related" disqualifier has to be used to make your argument;

Yes, that qualifier has to be used because gang related mass shootings have plenty of law enforcement attention and resources dedicated to tackling them.
Non-gang related mass shootings on the other hand are not being addressed adequately.

 

[cunning linguist]

Yes, that is your argument - People of colour not being able to vote is beneficial to right wingers, so it must be good.

Yes, that qualifier has to be used because gang related mass shootings have plenty of law enforcement attention and resources dedicated to tackling them.
Non-gang related mass shootings on the other hand are not being addressed adequately.

"Non-gang related mass shootings"...lol, typing that shit is ridiculous, is a statistical outlier and not as common as your echo chamber pretends it is.

That you can't see the irony and hypocrisy in what you type is so sad, it's almost funny. The years between elections, to try to get some kind of ID and proof they are eligible to vote, is somehow too onerous, but a gun license, registration and background checks aren't.

It's ironic when people who cry racism or Islamophobia at the drop of a hat, go on to paint a group they dislike, like gun owners, with the same broad brush that they claim to hate.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

"Non-gang related mass shootings"...lol, typing that shit is ridiculous, is a statistical outlier and not as common as your echo chamber pretends it is.

No it is not a statistical outlier.
No one with a sane mind would call mass shootings a statistical outlier when even kids in schools are being trained on mass shooting procedures.

 

[cunning linguist]

No it is not a statistical outlier.
No one with a sane mind would call mass shootings a statistical outlier when even kids in schools are being trained on mass shooting procedures.

The lack of statistics you've presented, says otherwise.

Are kids still taught "stop drop and roll", or did that become statistically insignificant when compared to other "important" things like, what gender do you feel like being today?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The lack of statistics you've presented, says otherwise.
Are kids still taught "stop drop and roll", or did that become statistically insignificant when compared to other "important" things like, what gender do you feel like being today?

You are calling non-gang related mass shootings, such as school shootings statistically insignificant on a thread about a school shooting? lmfao.
Yes these types of mass shootings are lower in number than gang related shootings.
However their social and political impact, is very high.
Anyone would agree that a mass shooting in a school perpetrated by a student, resulting in the deaths of multiple children is far more serious than a gang related drive-by that kills multiple other gang members.

 

[bver_hunter]

''Cis'' is just a made up word.

This whole trans thing is a just social contagion that the leftists have exploited to corrupt the psyche of individuals affected with body dysmorphic disorder and questioned sexual preference.

There's no accepted definition for the term ''mass shootings''

Good luck trying to challenge the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Cis is a word that is in The Oxford Dictionary. Whereas MAGA is the actual made up word.

Obviously, your are oblivious as to of how the trans genders were badly discriminated against in the past decades. Most of the violent crimes committed against them were from the extreme right.
No wonder that when not only "The Left" but the Moderates and those on the Moderate Right wanted to protect them from being sidelined in Society, we are seeing the MAGA Right wanting to go back to the dark ages of History not only against The Trans, but also those who were identified as Gay as well as individuals based on Race and Religion!!

How can you come up with the ludicrous statement as "No Accepted Definition for the term mass shootings"? This is the accepted definition in the USA where these events occur on a regular basis:

mass shooting, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area.

Whereas for Mass Killings:

The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a “mass killing” as “3 or more killings in a single incident.” For the purposes of this article, both sets of criteria will be applied to the term mass shooting, with the distinction that the shooter or shooters are not included in any fatality statistics.

Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations | Britannica

Mass shooting, as defined by the U.S. FBI, an event in which one or more individuals are ‘actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.’

www.britannica.com

Good luck to preventing these acts of both Mass Killings and Mass Shootings in the future if The Second Amendment is not addressed!!

 

[cunning linguist]

You are calling non-gang related mass shootings, such as school shootings statistically insignificant on a thread about a school shooting? lmfao.
Yes these types of mass shootings are lower in number than gang related shootings.
However their social and political impact, is very high.
Anyone would agree that a mass shooting in a school perpetrated by a student, resulting in the deaths of multiple children is far more serious than a gang related drive-by that kills multiple other gang members.

Concession accepted.

Takeaways: Liberals don't actually care about gun violence, just looking for a way to take political revenge on enemies, like gun owners. As evidenced by the screeching whenever voter IDs, carding, stop-and-frisk, no fly lists are mentioned, however they would subject an entire group of people, like gun owners, to the very same practices they deem discriminatory or "racist".

 

[Frankfooter]

Concession accepted.

Takeaways: Liberals don't actually care about gun violence, just looking for a way to take political revenge on enemies, like gun owners. As evidenced by the screeching whenever voter IDs, carding, stop-and-frisk, no fly lists are mentioned, however they would subject an entire group of people, like gun owners, to the very same practices they deem discriminatory or "racist".

Seems like right wingers think more guns = less gun crime, while left wingers know that less guns = less gun crimes.

You just want more guns personally and think that makes you safer.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Takeaways: Liberals don't actually care about gun violence, just looking for a way to take political revenge on enemies, like gun owners.

Legal guns being used in mass shootings are a real problem that needs to be tackled which is why countries like Canada, Australia etc are acting.
There is no political revenge.
it isn't revenge if they are still able to own weapons. Nobody is stopping them.
As far as gang related violence, there is already plenty of law enforcement focus on it, so nothing else needs to be done.

 

[cunning linguist]

Legal guns being used in mass shootings are a real problem that needs to be tackled which is why countries like Canada, Australia etc are acting.
There is no political revenge.
it isn't revenge if they are still able to own weapons. Nobody is stopping them.
As far as gang related violence, there is already plenty of law enforcement focus on it, so nothing else needs to be done.

LOL, have you not witnessed the utter failure of gun control in Canada? Gun owners are more restricted now, more than ever, while criminals are better armed than ever before.

In that, I agree that "nothing else needs to be done"; we as a country have proven how fruitless focusing on responsible gun owners has been in reducing gun violence, perpetuated by criminals who ignore the laws to begin with.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

LOL, have you not witnessed the utter failure of gun control in Canada? Gun owners are more restricted now, more than ever, while criminals are better armed than ever before.

Nonsense.
I have witnessed firearm related deaths of all types in Canada be far lower than the US.
And where do these criminals get their guns from? Smuggled in from the US where there is no adequate gun control.
Now imagine how low our gun crimes would be if the US had proper gun control.
You're welcome.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Nonsense.
I have witnessed firearm related deaths of all types in Canada be far lower than the US.
And where do these criminals get their guns from? Smuggled in from the US where there is no adequate gun control.
Now imagine how low our gun crimes would be if the US had proper gun control.
You're welcome

You can never get rid of the guns because of the 2nd amendment, so all this talk about gun control is a moot point.

And even if every law abiding US citizen handed in their guns tomorrow, the criminals would never hand in their guns, so all the law abiding people would be sitting ducks for home invasions and other burglary crime

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You can never get rid of the guns because of the 2nd amendment, so all this talk about gun control is a moot point.

And even if every law abiding US citizen handed in their guns tomorrow, the criminals would never hand in their guns, so all the law abiding people would be sitting ducks for home invasions and other burglary crime

Gun control is not about confiscating guns or getting rid of guns.
That is a lie the NRA pushes.
Maybe gun control itself is a bad term to use.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Gun control is not about confiscating guns or getting rid of guns.
That is a lie the NRA pushes.
Maybe gun control itself is a bad term to use

So then tell us, whats your ideal version of gun-control??

 

[cunning linguist]

Nonsense.
I have witnessed firearm related deaths of all types in Canada be far lower than the US.
And where do these criminals get their guns from? Smuggled in from the US where there is no adequate gun control.
Now imagine how low our gun crimes would be if the US had proper gun control.
You're welcome.

Let me guess, you think Canadian criminals also drive to Indiana where they buy guns at retail, with allegedly no questions asked.

A few years ago, Liberals tried to convince the public that criminal guns came from gun owners, which was false even back then, but now that they've painted themselves into a corner with orders-in-council we can see with our own eyes, what we've known all along. Responsible gun owners have nothing to do with gun violence.