Sci-Fi: Star Trek, Star Wars, etc....

[gladheateher]

My favourite is the Vulcan hottie T'Pol, especially the shower scene with Trip.

She also looks good without her Vulcan ears

http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/html/girl_621.html

 

[prof]

...good point but even if Darth Vader and the Emperor were dead, without the military might of the rebellion behind the Jedi, the Jedi could not defeat the empire.

 

[prof]

....and one last point the Jedi alone or Darth Vader could not defeat the Federation.

Just check out all the Federation alien races that are really powerful such as, The Organians, the Metrons, etc...if the federation were to convince them to join the empire had better watch out. These beings are much more powerful than the Jedi or the Dark Side.

 

[Tugger]

....and one last point the Jedi alone or Darth Vader could not defeat the Federation.

The Organians, the Metrons, etc....

I am not familiar with such a species, can you enlighten me?

Prof I admit Complete Defeat.

You are much wiser than I...You are the master...A Loyal Servant like myself, can learn much from your knowlege.

Prof...please tell me...is the FORCE! in me?

Do you think you could teach me to be A Jedi Knight?

I would be a worthy Apprentice...

 

[incognito]

Very true prof BUT the organians were peace loving entities and abhore violence and therefore, would not get involved. The metrons seem to be a zenophobic race and i doubt they would lend a hand. There is one point that all of you are missing: if the empire decided to invade the federation they would not succeed. 1. As most people have said, all the alien races would ban together.
2. The federation has far more powerful weapons being developed because of the borg threat: eg. the defiant and quantum torpedos.
3. And last but no least, they can ask for the assisstance of the all powerful Q. Wheres your force now tough guy.

Incognito

 

[Manji]

Don't forget that the Federation could develp computer viruses to destroy or disable the Empire's fleet (as they did with the Borg).

Then there is also using nanites as a weapon (as they did with Species 7642, or 2647. or 7876, ah fuck it... you guys know who I'm talking about).

Also don't forget about Section 31 and how it would resort to using any tactic to preserve the federation. I'm sure that using biological agents or some sort galactic weapon of mass destruction would be used.
As the prof said, the Federation have an army of scientists, engineers, doctors, etc...; so they could devise a lot of crazy and devestating shit.

But then again, if the Empire hired Boba Fett.....

 

[Manji]

Q is sort of an enigma.
For all we know, he could take a liking to the Empire and help them.
Or he could try combining the two together.
You just don't know with Q.

 

[Tugger]

3. And last but no least, they can ask for the assisstance of the all powerful Q. Wheres your force now tough guy.

Incognito

Q. is not that strong...he was once ousted out of the continuim if you can remember.

Now don't you think A Jedi Knight with this kind of information, could use one of his Jedi mind tricks to convince the members of the continuim to oust him again.

 

[Manji]

I don't know about that.
Q it still pretty powerful. He sort of reminds me of the Beyonder from Marvel's Secret War in regards to power levels.
How the heck would the Jedi even reach the continuim?

 

[Tugger]

To Answer that question...I would have to watch episdode 1.

The are some sort of tiny little organisms, that tell a jedi that there has been a diruption in the universe...I can not remember their name.

They would take a Jedi to the Continium, the Jedi would raise his hands over the face of a member of the Q continuim, and say,"we are going to make Q a human again"...then the meber of the continium would say the same thing...

This is really pretty simple actually.

Besides that Q was a powerful guy in the first few years of TNG.
Then he became weaker....he has flaws...like...didn't he want to get married?

Do you know how easy it is to get a woman in the mix to fuck things up!!!

 

[Tugger]

We still have a lot to learn about the Empire...we still haven't seen the third episode.

A am willing to bet the Empire has a few tricks up thier sleeve.

The Federation doesn't have many more tricks...they are too predictable.

 

[prof]

[2. The federation has far more powerful weapons being developed because of the borg threat: eg. the defiant and quantum torpedos.
Incognito [/B]

I agree with you, but tell it to the guys over at www.stardestroyer.com. They'll eat you alive. Those guys are hardcore and they'll probably disgree with us over who's weapons are stronger.

 

[prof]

Case in point:

A wormhole opens up between the Star Wars and Star Trek Universe. Palpatine sends 150 STAR DESTOYERS both Imperial-class and Victory-class through the wormhole. The Federation is caught by surprise. Would it survive?

 

[Tugger]

this is a trick question....

What part of the universe is the worm hole?

 

[Tugger]

I would also like to know...

What time zone is it in?

You see the empire existed A long Time Ago, In A Galaxy Far, Far, Away...

When the Federation is in the not so distant future.

 

[Manji]

Time zone? What chu talkin about tugger?

Though we should assume that this attack would be on the TNG, DS9 and Voyager era Federation.

Plus, would it be safe to assume that the star destroyers would be accompanied by tie fighters, storm troopers and ground assault vechiles (such as At -Ats).

If thats the case, I would put my money on the Empire. Though can anybody list how many ships and space stations the Federation has ready!?!

If the Federation has 300 ships or more than I would put my money on the Federation.

Also what exactly is the size difference between a Federation flag ship and an Empire star destroyer?
I wish that website would show diagrams of the ships (in scale of course) so we could get an idea of the size differential. If anybody finds, please display the link.

 

[Tugger]

I wasn't sure, it could have been a different fight if Kirk was involved.

O.K. Now that we know what time zone that we are in.

I still need to know what Quadrant the worm hole might be in?

You see, if they arrive in the DS9 worm hole, the federation will be caught by suprise, and the Empire is sure to kick some ass.

If the worm hole is in the Delta Quadrant, that will give the federation some time before they get to the federation headquarters. Time is all that is needed for someone like Data to process his next move, if he can get Jordy to do something with a photon torpedo mixed in with the reactor coil, beamed through the transporter, then the Empire is...Fucked.

 

[prof]

Manji,

Here are some stats:

IMPERATOR-CLASS STAR DESTROYER, MARK II:

NAME/TYPE: Imperator II-class Star Destroyer
DESIGNER/MANUFACTURER: Kuat Drive Yards
COMBAT DESIGNATION: Battlecruiser
LENGTH: 1,600 metres
CREW: 36,755 crew; 330 gunners
PASSENGERS: 9,700 troops
SPEED RATING: 60 MGLT
HYPERDRIVE: x1
HULL RATING: 2272 RU
SHIELD RATING: 5760 SBD
CONSUMABLES: 6 years
WEAPONS: 50 Taim & Bak Heavy Turbolaser Batteries;
50 Taim & Bak Heavy Turbolaser Cannons;
20 Borstel Ion Cannon Batteries;
10 Phylon Tractor Beam Projectors

STARFIGHTER SQUADRONS: Standard compliment of 3 TIE Fighter Squadrons;
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons; 1 TIE Bomber Squadron
(for other TIE compliments,see below)

PLANETARY ASSAULT TROOPS: Full Standard Stormtrooper
Division; 12 Landing Barges; 20 AT-AT walkers; 30 AT-ST
walkers; 1 Pre-fab Garrison base
OTHER ONBOARD CRAFT: 8 Lambda-class Imperial Shuttles;
10 Assault Shuttles; 5 Assault Gunboats



SOVEREIGN-CLASS CRUISER
Length: 685 metres
Weapons: Phasers, Photon and Quantum Torpedoes
Not sure about the rest...


Anyways look at the size difference, not to mention the fact that a Super Star Destroyer is about 8 KILOMETRES LONG!!!

 

[knight66]

I am putting my money on the Empire.
The Federation may be able to hold off the ships and regular troops but there is still the matter of Sith. I don't think any amount of time would help the Federation prepare for the Sith. With their skills with the lightsaber and knowledge of the force starfleet could do very little to stop them. I would thin that if Darth Vader found himself on a Starship then he would rip right thorugh it in a matter of minutes.

 

[incognito]

Tugger, if the empire appeared in the delta quadrant from the worm hole, they would have to deal with the borg. It they came in through the gamma quadrant, again they would have to deal with the dominion. In either case, the empire would sustain heavy damage and would be forced to retreat. They'd better go straight for the alpha quadrant.