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Scientists Map The Genome Of Ancient Egyptian Kings, And They Weren’t From Africa

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The first ever genetic analysis of mummies found that ancient Egyptian kings were more closely related to West Asians than Africans, according to a study published Tuesday by scientists at the Max Planck Institute.

The research found that ancient Egyptians were most closely related to Neolithic Levantine, Anatolian and European populations. The mummies tested did not share strong genetic links to Africa often found in modern Egyptians.

“This suggests that an increase in Sub-Saharan African gene flow into Egypt occurred within the last 1,500 years,” Wolfgang Haak, who led the research team, said in a statement.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/30/s...lycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social


Humans probably originated in Australia Not Africa.

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/the-first-race-out-of-australia-not-africa
 

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The first ever genetic analysis of mummies found that ancient Egyptian kings were more closely related to West Asians than Africans, according to a study published Tuesday by scientists at the Max Planck Institute.

The research found that ancient Egyptians were most closely related to Neolithic Levantine, Anatolian and European populations. The mummies tested did not share strong genetic links to Africa often found in modern Egyptians.

“This suggests that an increase in Sub-Saharan African gene flow into Egypt occurred within the last 1,500 years,” Wolfgang Haak, who led the research team, said in a statement.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/30/s...lycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social


Humans probably originated in Australia Not Africa.

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/the-first-race-out-of-australia-not-africa
<yawn> We all know that the Ptolemaic Pharaohs were descended from generals in Alexander the Great's occupying army, and after them the Romans occupied the place for a few centuries more. Egypt was the richest, most fertile place in the Mediterranean, and it fed Italy for centuries. Considering these geneticists were looking at a 1300 year period back then, it would be remarkable if there wasn't immigration from outside. Colonial imperialism works like that. All they've newly established is that the incoming sub-Saharan stream was small until sometime after the Romans left. More or less 1800 years ago.

Perhaps you could explain why you find that so remarkable that it's worth posting here.
 

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Canada man with his narrow news again.

Not a chance in hell that humans could have migrated from Australia in Africa. 72,000 years ago the eruption of the Sumatran caldera (Mount Toba) killed off 80% of the planet's human population, Australia was left devastated.

 

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<yawn> We all know that the Ptolemaic Pharaohs were descended from generals in Alexander the Great's occupying army, and after them the Romans occupied the place for a few centuries more. Egypt was the richest, most fertile place in the Mediterranean, and it fed Italy for centuries. Considering these geneticists were looking at a 1300 year period back then, it would be remarkable if there wasn't immigration from outside. Colonial imperialism works like that. All they've newly established is that the incoming sub-Saharan stream was small until sometime after the Romans left. More or less 1800 years ago.

Perhaps you could explain why you find that so remarkable that it's worth posting here.
As opposed to all his other posts?
 

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We all know that the Ptolemaic Pharaohs were descended from generals in Alexander the Great's occupying army, and after them the Romans occupied the place for a few centuries more. Egypt was the richest, most fertile place in the Mediterranean, and it fed Italy for centuries. Considering these geneticists were looking at a 1300 year period back then, it would be remarkable if there wasn't immigration from outside. Colonial imperialism works like that. All they've newly established is that the incoming sub-Saharan stream was small until sometime after the Romans left. More or less 1800 years ago.

Perhaps you could explain why you find that so remarkable that it's worth posting here.
Perhaps because for over a century there has been a very vocal Black Egypt theory popular particularly in the U.S. and supported by among others W. E. B. Du Bois, Cheikh Anta Diop, Chancellor Williams, Martin Bernal, John G. Jackson, Ivan van Sertima, and Segun Magbagbeola.

This was the first study to sample DNA from 151 Egyptian mummies dating back as far as 1400 BC from Abusir el-Meleq, along the Nile River in Middle Egypt. Quite frankly it showed results that were revelatory for the pre-Ptolemaic period.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4555292/Study-mummies-reveals-Turkish-European.html
 

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The Egyptian finding is new and interesting.

The Out-of-Africa theory of human origin is still the most solid. There was a recent finding of a previously unknown species of hominid bones in Europe that are 200 million years old suggesting that there was migration/origin of pre-humans in and out of Africa however most evidence of the actual human species origin thus far resides in Africa.
 

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I find it interesting that modern humans carry about 4% neanderthal genes. About 30% of the neanderthal genome survives in modern humans.
I know some people who I think carry considerably more than 4% neanderthal genes- one of them is a relative! :biggrin:
 

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I think the idea that humans came from Austrailia is unlikely.

Part of the reason why animals in Austrailia are so different is the geographic isolation.

Either way it makes no difference to me.
 

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Perhaps because for over a century there has been a very vocal Black Egypt theory popular particularly in the U.S. and supported by among others W. E. B. Du Bois, Cheikh Anta Diop, Chancellor Williams, Martin Bernal, John G. Jackson, Ivan van Sertima, and Segun Magbagbeola.

This was the first study to sample DNA from 151 Egyptian mummies dating back as far as 1400 BC from Abusir el-Meleq, along the Nile River in Middle Egypt. Quite frankly it showed results that were revelatory for the pre-Ptolemaic period.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4555292/Study-mummies-reveals-Turkish-European.html
And as the quoted study stated, the millennium and a half since has seen lots of sub-Saharan immigration into Egypt. Today's Egyptians have genomes as different from those of 5000 years ago as today's North Americans compared to those of the same period.

Any argument that this explains events in today's world is as absurd and meaningless as to trying to explain Trump by it.
 

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And as the quoted study stated, the millennium and a half since has seen lots of sub-Saharan immigration into Egypt. Today's Egyptians have genomes as different from those of 5000 years ago as today's North Americans compared to those of the same period.

Any argument that this explains events in today's world is as absurd and meaningless as to trying to explain Trump by it.
OK and that has what to do with Ancient Egypt which is the topic of conversation?
 

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Egypt was conquered by the Persians, Greeks and Romans, all Indo-European cultures. You would expect a genetic mix.

Prior to that Egypt was made of North African/Semitic people who migrated to the Nile Valley after the last Ice Age. As the Ice Age caps started to melt the Sahara and Arabian Peninsula began to dry up. Also, during the Ice Age, the Mediterranean didn't exist.
 

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OK and that has what to do with Ancient Egypt which is the topic of conversation?
About as much as your statement that "… for over a century there has been a very vocal Black Egypt theory popular particularly in the U.S. and supported by among others W. E. B. Du Bois, Cheikh Anta Diop, Chancellor Williams, Martin Bernal, John G. Jackson, Ivan van Sertima, and Segun Magbagbeola."

If we're really talking Ancient Egypt, then we don't have to concern ourselves with your list of nineteenth and twentieth century guys or canada-man's sneers about "…black history guys" with which he introduced his trash-tab's mangled précis of the report. Everyone was equally ignorant — especially all your dead guys — of this far from astounding bit of evidence about Egypt in historical times until it was published in Nature.
 
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