Then came the Arabs in 639 A.D. and 1,400 years later are still there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Arab_Egypt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Arab_Egypt
Scientists Map The Genome Of Ancient Egyptian Kings, And They Weren’t From Africa
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6 times actually. They didn't mention the Cuban Missile Crisis. McNamara says we were "that close" with his two fingers just millimeters apart, to nuclear war.
A shame that you just don't get it.
Then again not everyone is particularly interested in history.
Indeed she was, but this study goes all the way back to the XVIII Dynasty of the New Kingdom over a thousand years before the Ptolemy's.
Unless you have joined the Ancient Aliens guy and think the Pharaohs were born in space, they sure as heck were African. Egypt is in Africa. The Pharaohs were born in Egypt. Ergo...
But of course the genetic history of any highly traveled area will be a huge mix. I'm sure they had blood from Egypt, Nubia, Ethiopia, Persia, Assyria, Greece, Anatolia, Babylon, ....
What about this is hard to grasp?
The question has been what was the background of the people in classical Ancient Egypt i.e. the Old and New Kingdoms long before the Ptolemaic period (Alexander the Great and all that), where they negroid or Nilotic (the Black Egypt theory, which for a bit over a century has had a devoted group of supporters particularly in the U.S.) or were they Middle Eastern or perhaps even Caucasian. This question has seemingly now been answered that they were Middle Eastern.
No the question is not answered at all. The Subjects that were tested had results. You its not conclusive for an entire civilization for an entire time period.
Here is a link to the Article in Nature Communications https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694
Note that the study examined samples from three time periods: Pre-Ptolemaic (New Kingdom, Third Intermediate Period and Late Period), Ptolemaic and Roman Period.
Note that the study examined samples from three time periods: Pre-Ptolemaic (New Kingdom, Third Intermediate Period and Late Period), Ptolemaic and Roman Period.
No thanks to you or the OP. If indeed you're trying to make the same point — which I doubt — neither of you has managed to articulate it clearly.
Unless the disdain for descendants of enslaved Africans trying to discover their history that does come through clearly is the entire point.
But even there: He's talking guys he sees on the street, you're parading your knowledge of 19thCentury figures, and yet everyone else seems to be talking ancient Egypt. Me too.
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OJ if you feel like it:
Review of Not out of Africa: How "Afrocentrism" Became An Excuse To Teach Myth As History
http://skepdic.com/refuge/lefko.html
Article on Afrocentrism by Dr. Thomas A. Schmitz of the University of Kiel
http://gfa.gbv.de/dr,gfa,002,1999,a,03.pdf
NPR interview regarding the same
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1010999
Review of Not out of Africa: How "Afrocentrism" Became An Excuse To Teach Myth As History
http://skepdic.com/refuge/lefko.html
Article on Afrocentrism by Dr. Thomas A. Schmitz of the University of Kiel
http://gfa.gbv.de/dr,gfa,002,1999,a,03.pdf
NPR interview regarding the same
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1010999
Aren't you the one saying this is about ancient history? How ancient is NPR?
If you're trying to discuss Afrocentrism or how our changing knowledge of ancient peoples has changed our views of them, come right out and say so. But tjhat's all modern stuff.
On the topic of of ancient times, and what we know, all this study has done is cross out some arrival dates so new ones have to be written in. But in all versions, this one included, the Sub-Saharan strain within the Egyptian genome has been there millennia longer than any Europeans have been in the Americas, or had any civilization in Western Europe anything like as advanced as Egypt's.
And from what is now Libya, west of Egypt. So the population were mostly Mediterranean shore-walkers and paddlers coming from the west and from the east across the Isthmus of Suez. More than those who walked up through the swamps and jungle of central Africa or across the Sahara. But the study found those as well, just in smaller numbers.
and since they were talking some 3,000 years ago, there's been lotsa time since (even before we or the Egyptians started writing histories) for the percentages to have shifted around.
