Scissors attack on girl in hijab 'did not happen': police

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Chinese community rallies in Canada to protest “Hijab Hoax”

More than 300 Chinese Canadians will reportedly join rallies in Montreal, Canada, on Saturday to protest an 11-year-old Canadian girl’s slander against the Asian community, who falsely claimed that an Asian man cut her hijab as she walked to school.

Khawlah Noman, a sixth-grader living in Toronto, held a news conference at her school on Jan. 12. She accused an Asian man of “pulling off her jacket hood and started cutting the bottom of her hijab.” The girl’s self-claimed suffering made headlines around the world, with politicians and public figures in Canada showing their support for the girl on social media.

“My heart goes out to Khawlah Noman following this morning's cowardly attack on her in Toronto,” Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Twitter. “Canada is an open and welcoming country, and incidents like this cannot be tolerated.”
Though garnering sympathy and support from the public, Noman’s claim was later disputed by Canadian police, who announced on Jan. 15 that an extensive investigation had been conducted and police had concluded it did not happen.

The abrupt turn of events has irritated the Chinese community in Canada, who called the Hijab Hoax a “hate crime that should never be tolerated.”

“The nature of this incident is vile. It is definitely a humiliation to Asian community, which has always been picked on. Even an 11-year-old knows that we are easy targets. This is unacceptable,” Jenny Wong, a 25-year-old Chinese Canadian living in Montreal, told People’s Daily Online.

“My friends and I will join a rally initiated by the local Chinese community in Montreal this Saturday, demanding an apology from the girl, the Canadian government, as well as a voice for the Asian community,” Wong added.

According to an announcement released by Chinese in North America, an influential WeChat account that focuses on the Chinese community in Canada and U.S., the rally has already been approved by local authorities. An estimated 350 people are expected to participate in the rally.
Similar protests initiated by Chinese Canadians have already taken place across the country, including two rallies in Toronto and Calgary on Jan. 21 and Jan. 22, respectively. Meanwhile, chat groups have also formed on social media, with many Chinese Canadians communicating and sharing updates on the incident.

“The Asian community in Canada doesn’t have political muscle and is discriminated against or victimized. Canadian authorities and media outlets did not even carry out a thorough investigation before supporting the liar,” said Jenny Liu, a 22-year-old Chinese student at the University of Toronto.

“Our rally slogan is focused on that lie: ‘Hoax Today, Horror Tomorrow.’ We feel hurt, and we demand that our voice is heard,” added Wong.

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This Muslim girl's origin is probably India or Pakistan. So she is Asian. If she described the attacker to be of "Chinese" origin then that is disgusting and will be a stigma on her family and her. But if she did not give the police the full description, but just mentioned "Asian", then it could have been anyone form Middle Eastern to Japanese including someone of Indian or Pakistani descent. Immigrants coming from countries like India and Pakistan also consider themselves to be Asian.
 

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Most of Russia is in Asia too which is why I fail to understand why people call East Asians simply "Asians.". Ignorance?

This Muslim girl's origin is probably India or Pakistan. So she is Asian. If she described the attacker to be of "Chinese" origin then that is disgusting and will be a stigma on her family and her. But if she did not give the police the full description, but just mentioned "Asian", then it could have been anyone form Middle Eastern to Japanese including someone of Indian or Pakistani descent. Immigrants coming from countries like India and Pakistan also consider themselves to be Asian.
 

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Most of Russia is in Asia too which is why I fail to understand why people call East Asians simply "Asians.". Ignorance?
East Asians are Asians, just like East Europeans are Europeans, and East Africans are Africans.
That is the problem and I am not too sure why the Chinese community thought that her reference to "Asian" automatically meant "Chinese".
This article is interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nobody-knows-what-an-asian-person-is_us_591cb4f8e4b03b485cae4d18
 

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This Muslim girl's origin is probably India or Pakistan. So she is Asian. If she described the attacker to be of "Chinese" origin then that is disgusting and will be a stigma on her family and her. But if she did not give the police the full description, but just mentioned "Asian", then it could have been anyone form Middle Eastern to Japanese including someone of Indian or Pakistani descent. Immigrants coming from countries like India and Pakistan also consider themselves to be Asian.
In Canada "Asian" is the term used for Chinese, Vietnamese etc. This is clearly why the Chinese are protesting. South Asians are considered Pakistanis etc. In England Asians are considered to be Pakistanis and Indians.
 

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In Canada "Asian" is the term used for Chinese, Vietnamese etc. This clearly why the Chinese are protesting. South Asians are considered Pakistanis etc. In England Asians are considered to be Pakistanis and Indians.
Yes, but that article that I posted does mention that all the Indians and Pakistanis consider themselves to be "Asian" and not "South Asian". They are right in that respect as all these countries belong to the Asian Continent. Now did the girl mean to say that they are Chinese / Vietnamese / Japanese is a different matter.
 

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Yes, but that article that I posted does mention that all the Indians and Pakistanis consider themselves to be "Asian" and not "South Asian". They are right in that respect as all these countries belong to the Asian Continent. Now did the girl mean to say that they are Chinese / Vietnamese / Japanese is a different matter.
Asia encompasses many countries and many can be called Asians, matters little in this case. In Canada an Asian is a Chinese or Vietnamese etc. You shouldn't be surprised the Chinese spoke up.
 

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:rolleyes:

They'll get over it, just like Sikhs did when two guys in turbans were described by police as "abducting" some white girl in the GTA a year ago. Turned out that she had actually run away from home and her parents looked like meth addicts, so the whole story faded into obscurity.

A kid told a stupid lie without realizing how serious the consequences can be—just like all of them do—and the current political climate just happened to amplify the effect by 100,000x. Who would even call that a "hoax" or complain about racism? That's not a good look.
 

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"The Asian community in Canada doesn’t have political muscle" ..

I think they actually do,... but we just hear them whining all the time, and making demands on Canadians to take down Christmas trees.
 

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Asia encompasses many countries and many can be called Asians, matters little in this case. In Canada an Asian is a Chinese or Vietnamese etc. You shouldn't be surprised the Chinese spoke up.
Again, the Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans etc. and this girl falls in one of those categories, consider themselves to be Asians. That is a fact. Do you see many Chinese men with moustaches?
 

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Again, the Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans etc. and this girl falls in one of those categories, consider themselves to be Asians. That is a fact. Do you see many Chinese men with moustaches?
Where did you get that the girl see's herself as an Asian? The description was an Asian man with bangs and hoodie. Yes I have seen Chinese men with mustaches.
 

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Where did you get that the girl see's herself as an Asian? The description was an Asian man with bangs and hoodie. Yes I have seen Chinese men with mustaches.
Again I posted a link that clearly state that all Indians, Pakistanis, South Asians consider themselves to be Asians, even here in Canada the the USA. Apparently, the rest of the Asians do not consider them to be so.
See Post #111.
Not common for Chinese to have moustaches.
 

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Again I posted a link that clearly state that all Indians, Pakistanis, South Asians consider themselves to be Asians, even here in Canada the the USA. Apparently, the rest of the Asians do not consider them to be so.
See Post #111.
Not common for Chinese to have moustaches.
You're just posting useless information, you don't know that the girl sees herself as a Asian, she didn't say that the perp. wasn't Asian (Chinese) when the police was looking for him, everyone was looking for a Asian (Chinese) man and its irrelevant that some south Asian man have mustaches. You sound drunk or just trolling. You said: "I am not too sure why the Chinese community thought that her reference to "Asian" automatically meant "Chinese". I keep telling you in Canada when you say Asian its intended as a Chinese.
 

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...in Canada when you say Asian its intended as a Chinese.
I agree. In Canada, 'Asian' almost always refers to Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai, and almost never, Indian or Pakistani. In Canada, we refer to Indian or Pakistani people as 'Brown', East Indian or South Asian. If there is no qualifier preceding the word 'Asian', then it is taken to meaning Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai. This is also true in the USA.
 
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I agree. In Canada, 'Asian' almost always refers to Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai, and almost never, Indian or Pakistani. In Canada, we refer to Indian or Pakistani people as 'Brown', East Indian or South East Asian. If there is no qualifier preceding the word 'Asian', then it is taken to meaning Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai. This is also true in the USA.
As the girl grew up in Canada,... she knows exactly who 'Asian' refers to.

The Chinese community is absolutely correct in going after the two idiot Fiberal leaders, the TDSB, and Tory.
 

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I agree. In Canada, 'Asian' almost always refers to Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai, and almost never, Indian or Pakistani. In Canada, we refer to Indian or Pakistani people as 'Brown', East Indian or South East Asian. If there is no qualifier preceding the word 'Asian', then it is taken to meaning Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai. This is also true in the USA.
If you're going to be that detailed, at least be correct. Southeast Asia refers to Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, etc. People from the Indian subcontinent would be "South Asian." I don't know anyone in Canada who refers to them as Southeast Asian, because that isn't where those countries are.

In the UK, "Asian" means pretty much anyone from Asia that isn't Russian. That's usually South Asian due to raw numbers, but also includes Arab, Chinese, etc. In many censuses in Canada that I've seen, South Asian, Southeast Asian, and East Asian all get one category called "Asian." So the idea that "Asian" is automatically equivalent to "Chinese-looking" in Canada is simply not true, even if that tends to be the case colloquially (and even then, not always depending on age group, demographic, exposure, and so on).

I get that a lot of things went horribly wrong with this lie, but I don't think that justifies specific anger from the Chinese community. The girl was probably asked for the race of the perpetrator by White police officers and was afraid to say what the police officers were, so she rolled a dice. That's how a child's brain works under pressure whether they're lying or not.
 

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I agree. In Canada, 'Asian' almost always refers to Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai, and almost never, Indian or Pakistani. In Canada, we refer to Indian or Pakistani people as 'Brown', East Indian or South East Asian. If there is no qualifier preceding the word 'Asian', then it is taken to meaning Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or Thai. This is also true in the USA.
Correction: I meant South Asian not South East Asian.

The girl knew exactly who she was pointing the finger at when she said 'Asian'. She absolutely meant 'Chinese'
 
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