Yes, that's what I meant. I should have said percentage. There is a (slightly) higher positivity rate in Peel.
It doesn't matter now...we're both going into lockdown.
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Second Lockdown Coming Soon?
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It doesn't matter now...we're both going into lockdown.
Alcohol sales are considered to be essential because they don't want to overwhelm the hospitals and use up hospital beds for alcoholic patients going through withdrawal. The last thing they need is people drinking mouthwash and showing up in emergency rooms.
What disturbs me about all this is Canada hasnt built emergency hospitals and ICU beds like they did in China.
In fact, we dont even have to build hospitals, all TruDOH has to do is convert churches and mosques into temporary emergency hospitals
In fact, we dont even have to build hospitals, all TruDOH has to do is convert churches and mosques into temporary emergency hospitals
His corporate buddies.
If he was actually listening to doctors we'd have an real lockdown instead of this window-dressing. .
Alcoholic withdrawal? Since when is that a thing?
I will argue you get more patients FROM alcohol (eg the dunces who still drive drunk or beat their wives) coupled with the fact people stocking up on alcohol now are going to be having Covid Christmas parties
The Post Millennial reached out to Lisa Bildy, a lawyer for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom who plans to challenge the new lockdown imposed by the Ontario government in court. We asked Bildy, who believes that governments always need boundaries, commonly asked legal questions about government imposed lockdowns.
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Are lockdowns unconstitutional? Ontario constitutional lawyer answers your lockdown questions
The Post Millennial reached out to Lisa Bildy, a lawyer for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom who plans to challenge the new lockdowns imposed by the Ontario government in court.
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That a boy, old reliable. Start posting your crap about how it's illegal while we all shut down! LOLThe Post Millennial reached out to Lisa Bildy, a lawyer for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom who plans to challenge the new lockdown imposed by the Ontario government in court. We asked Bildy, who believes that governments always need boundaries, commonly asked legal questions about government imposed lockdowns.
Are lockdowns unconstitutional? Ontario constitutional lawyer answers your lockdown questions
The Post Millennial reached out to Lisa Bildy, a lawyer for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom who plans to challenge the new lockdowns imposed by the Ontario government in court.
Go out and party with friends + family
You wont get any sort of penalty (no legal basis for it)
You think I plan on sitting inside for the next 28 days? lol
Are you actually serious? You don't know anything about alcohol withdrawal? I can only shake my head in disbelief. If you worked in Emerg, you would know that they deal with it probably every night. It's not a 'thing' dear. It can lead to seizures, strokes, and even death. A friend of mine died from alcohol withdrawal last year. It said it on his death certificate.
The doctors, hospitals, and ER staff know this very well. And they know that it can overwhelm the system i.e. the emergency rooms and available beds.
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Alcohol and Violence
Studies have repeatedly found higher alcohol outlet density is associated with higher levels of violence.
Studies have repeatedly found higher alcohol outlet density is associated with higher levels of violence.
- More violence, including intimate partner violence1 and youth homicides2, tends to accompany more alcohol outlets. This association has been found in urban areas, like Cincinnati, OH3; Philadelphia, PA4; and Norfolk, VA5 as well as suburban areas like Bloomington, IN6 among others.
- A study using 2006-2010 Baltimore City police data found each increase in the number of alcohol outlets in the city was associated with a 2.2% increase in violent crime (i.e., rape, aggravated assault, homicide/manslaughter, and robbery), even after controlling for community disadvantage, percent African American, percent occupied housing, and drug arrests.7
- Between 2002 and 2011, people who lived in neighborhoods with more off-premise alcohol outlets had 8% greater odds of committing alcohol-related suicide. People who lived in neighborhoods with more on-premise alcohol outlets had 5% greater odds of committing alcohol-related suicide. These relationships held even after adjusting for age, race/ethnicity, year of death, marital status, and method of suicide.8
- Business hours matter: a study of New York’s alcohol outlets found for every 1 hour increase in weekly alcohol outlet business hours aggravated assaults and non-gun violence increased significantly, even after controlling for alcohol outlet density.9
- Retail outlets with more shelf space devoted to single serve alcohol containers are associated with increased rates of violence.10
- Research supports that alcohol advertising plays a role in causing sexual violence, independent of the racial/ethnic composition, social and economic characteristics, population, residential stability, poverty, and alcohol availability of the neighborhood where the advertisements are displayed.11
^^ You want to see violence? Close the beer stores and LCBO. The government has too much on their plate right now to deal with something like that. Plus, like I said, they need to keep emergency rooms and hospital beds available for Covid patients.
Also, don't forget who runs the LCBO. It is controlled by the government and brings in a LOT of money.
Also, don't forget who runs the LCBO. It is controlled by the government and brings in a LOT of money.
Hiking through zoo = obviously nonessential.
Alcohol availability = arguably essential.
It's not rocket science.
We all know this is the main reason it is "essential"
According to CCSA the costs related to alcohol are staggering
And even if a few people do go into any sort of withdrawal, I would be willing to bet that for every 1 person hurt by curbing use that 100 are hurt by allowing use
Back in 2014 it cost the taxpayers nearly 15 BILLION dollars in health care + court costs as per their report published last year (2019, the most recent available stats)
ON surprisingly is one of the lowest provinces (we all knew PQ would be high, but pretty much all the Maritimes and West provinces are worse than us as well)
LCBO apparently did something right
Be interesting to see next report what happens
Nearly 30% of Canadians over use alcohol
