Sex worker writes a scathing open letter to all her clients.

mandrill

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I'm not surprised.

For those who think there's something wrong with her for having negative feelings/outlook on the job, I respectfully disagree.


Catch anyone on a bad day and they will tell you about the problems of their job.


Sex work is that x1000 because unlike a person just being rude to you there is the physical intimacy side. Not to mention for some men sex work brings out their worst in that they are acting out a fantasy or feel entitled because they "paid for it".


I'm sure she's had good or even great clients but those get overshadowed by the bad experiences.


The idea that if you love something you should do it for free is dumb. Not many doctors and lawyers out there giving out free service regularly. Sure some do pro bono work but never at a loss.

She's pretty overwhelming though. Presumably she was a voluntary sex worker and not trafficked.

It's difficult to imagine that a person who loathed every moment of her working life as thoroughly as this woman claims would have stayed in that job. And it's difficult to believe that she hated each and every one of her clients as she claims. Are we to believe that in 3 years, NONE of her clients made her genuinely smile, laugh or feel appreciated or liked - even for a moment?! Are we to believe that she felt not a shred of liking or even sympathy for ANY man who paid for her time. How about men who confessed that they were lonely or frightened of women in real life? That their wives had left them or passed away? Or who just wanted to talk? Or who were physically challenged or too injured for women in civilian life to be attracted to them? What sort of bitch-hag would be so cold and bitter to each and every man who ever paid for her company?!

Either time has blurred the reality of her experience and made it seem far worse than it actually was. Or she is milking her past career for sympathy from certain other women who are predisposed to take her present account at face value to fuel their own rage and resentment against men.
 

Shooter75

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She's pretty overwhelming though. Presumably she was a voluntary sex worker and not trafficked.

It's difficult to imagine that a person who loathed every moment of her working life as thoroughly as this woman claims would have stayed in that job. And it's difficult to believe that she hated each and every one of her clients as she claims. Are we to believe that in 3 years, NONE of her clients made her genuinely smile, laugh or feel appreciated or liked - even for a moment?! Are we to believe that she felt not a shred of liking or even sympathy for ANY man who paid for her time. How about men who confessed that they were lonely or frightened of women in real life? That their wives had left them or passed away? Or who just wanted to talk? Or who were physically challenged or too injured for women in civilian life to be attracted to them? What sort of bitch-hag would be so cold and bitter to each and every man who ever paid for her company?!

Either time has blurred the reality of her experience and made it seem far worse than it actually was. Or she is milking her past career for sympathy from certain other women who are predisposed to take her present account at face value to fuel their own rage and resentment against men.
Very well said oagre

I agree men go to escorts for different reasons, Some men do it for their ego, to be with a beautiful young girl. Some do it just to get their rocks off.
Or their bored and need excitement.
But some men go for reasons oagre pointed out, like the wife died or split, physically challenged or injured or lonely and scared of women.
I see escorts cause talking to a girl at work or a bar or on the bus scares the hell out me. Escorts tell me its all about confidence.That women love a strong man who can take control when needed and also protect them and keep them safe.
What scares me the most is I don't think I have that confidence. And if I can't be strong then maybe I don't deserve the love and respect of a great women. With my personality, being shy and not having the beat self esteem. If it wasn't for escorts, life would be very cold, dark, and lonely. And being lonely is all it's cracked up to be, its terrible. Escorts make me feel excited and happy, This is not possible without a kind and generis women.
I go to escorts for the touch and the feel, the smell and the taste. To remind myself that I'm human and need love and compassion.

-Shooter75
 

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I pay for pussy. Not nice conversation. Not compliments. Not to make an SP feel good. Not to make an SP orgasm. I pay to fuck pussy. I pay to orgasm. I could give zero fucks if she likes me. I pay for pussy. Period.
 

mandrill

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I pay for pussy. Not nice conversation. Not compliments. Not to make an SP feel good. Not to make an SP orgasm. I pay to fuck pussy. I pay to orgasm. I could give zero fucks if she likes me. I pay for pussy. Period.

I'm beginning to see the girl's point of view now.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Some of her thoughts on her clients could be
the kind of information in your reference provided
by your ex-sp for your first indy visit.
 

TeasePlease

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I’ve heard every part of that letter from different women. I used to think (hope?) that most of the girls I saw were legit. As I befriended some over the years, I learned not. Even the ones I thought were completely “normal” with very healthy attitudes about the industry and men have eventually revealed some pretty deep scars. Like the letter says, it’s not easy money.

Interesting to read the hobbyist commits too, they echo many of my own thoughts.
 

harryass

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The biz has good and bad clients obviously. She should have got out of the biz a long time ago if she feels this way and get a job that she might be suitable for with her skills or lack of skills. WTF, bitch and complain and wants the money too.
 

james t kirk

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I’ve heard every part of that letter from different women. I used to think (hope?) that most of the girls I saw were legit. As I befriended some over the years, I learned not. Even the ones I thought were completely “normal” with very healthy attitudes about the industry and men have eventually revealed some pretty deep scars. Like the letter says, it’s not easy money.

Interesting to read the hobbyist commits too, they echo many of my own thoughts.
There is no such thing as easy money or we would all be doing it.
 

K Douglas

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My guess is she wasn't that good at her job. Sounds like a non gfe provider as well. Sure there are many ladies in this industry that think like she does. But there are also ladies that have fun doing this. They like the mystery sex with a stranger. It gets them excited to rock guys worlds - guys who are overworked & under laid, guys in bad or sexless relationships etc. Of course the $ is most important let's be honest. But by far the ladies I have seen are not jaded like the author.
 

Shooter75

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That's how I fealt. When I go see an escort and she's relaxed and not in a rush, witch is most of the time. I don't feel like she hate's her job.

Or hate's me and think I'm loser for calling her and asking for a date, I think this lady is real mad at everything it's not about escorting or the clients with her. she's been badly fucked with and has a lot of hate.
I think escorting is far more excepted today then in years past, and the escorts treated with more respect. That's what I've seen anyway. When most guys speak about one of their favorite escorts it's with respect,like she's a great women and they love their time together and that's what it's all about for me. That's why I'm doing this,for personnel connections with super great women.

-Shooter75
 

explorerzip

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It's a sobering letter. I've got a 2 hour date set up for tomorrow and it's almost convinced me to call and cancel because after reading this I feel like I don't want to put the girl through 2 hours of my time.

Providers and clients get involved with this business for their own reasons. To be blunt - because none of you know me anyway - let's just say that I lead a pretty lonely life. I work. My life is busy. And for personal reasons I really don't feel like I have the energy or the desire to get involved in any sort of real romantic relationship. I've had opportunities. I just don't feel like investing the time into developing them. But I think everyone needs a sense of intimacy every now and then, so I like the illusion of intimacy with an attractive young woman every now and then, and it doesn't bother me that I have to pay for it. Maybe they enjoy the time they spend with me. I think I'm a nice guy, I don't demand very much, I'm not into anything particularly weird. And if she doesn't enjoy the time with me but she's a really good actress and makes it seem like she's really enjoying it - well, I'm not under the illusion that any of these girls (even if they enjoy being with me) is going to want to run off with me and start making babies. Most of the time I don't even have sex with the girl - at least not full service. Let's just say that when I was 30 I had some serious prostate issues and needed surgery. The end result is that things don't always work as well as I would like them to. Which also makes me reluctant to seek out serious relationships. Among other things there were some nerve issues and I really don't do very well with a condom. Which means I mostly stick with oral, which works better. I don't generally share my story with the girls I'm with - because I always figure they'll think I'm feeding them a line and trying to get them to agree to bbfs, which I have no interest in at all. Sometimes I've been with girls who don't seem to take me seriously when I say I'd rather not go all the way, and when they start pulling out the condom I might tell them why and just ask them to stop. But I always try to be well groomed, well dressed, nice, gentle, respectful, courteous - and after all that reading that letter made me wonder how many girls I've been with have taken that and just looked at me with contempt or thought of me as pathetic.

But, I really do believe that most of the girls I've seen over the years are legit. They may not get a lot out of the sex - but I think most of them are genuinely nice people who are doing a job to the best of their ability and that they really do appreciate nice customers, just like anybody does. I was in an A&W earlier tonight. A young girl was working the counter. She brought out a couple's order to them, they walked away. I started to place my order, and the man came roaring back yelling - loud - that "this isn't what I ordered. I said no mustard and there's mustard on this. Can't you get anything right. Ketchup, pickles, lettuce and tomatoes and no mustard. Is that so hard." The poor girl looked shell shocked. She put his order in again. I placed my order, waited patiently. When she brought it out to me I smiled at her, said thanks. When I left I made a point of walking by the counter smiling at her and saying thanks again. Wished her a good night. I felt like she needed a customer to be nice to her. Probably a lot of sex workers just need a customer to be nice to them sometimes too.
You should not have to justify why you want to see an escort or feel guilty that you are wasting a girl's time by spending it with you. You seem to be a straight up guy so there's no reason for you to feel guilty or think that other people think you are pathetic. That being said, you should always communicate what you want clearly and do it before the appointment if possible. You don't need to get into details, but just tell the girl that you only want oral. There are many great and understanding ladies out there that would not have any problems with that request.
 

Tashki

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I pay for pussy. Not nice conversation. Not compliments. Not to make an SP feel good. Not to make an SP orgasm. I pay to fuck pussy. I pay to orgasm. I could give zero fucks if she likes me. I pay for pussy. Period.

I'm beginning to see the girl's point of view now.
Oagre what do you mean? Why would SplitSecond care about anything else he just mentioned above except for an orgasm? That's a great mindset to have when you are hobbying. If anybody is worried about an SP liking you then you are hobbying for the wrong reasons.
 

Knuckle Ball

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She's pretty overwhelming though. Presumably she was a voluntary sex worker and not trafficked.

It's difficult to imagine that a person who loathed every moment of her working life as thoroughly as this woman claims would have stayed in that job. And it's difficult to believe that she hated each and every one of her clients as she claims. Are we to believe that in 3 years, NONE of her clients made her genuinely smile, laugh or feel appreciated or liked - even for a moment?! Are we to believe that she felt not a shred of liking or even sympathy for ANY man who paid for her time. How about men who confessed that they were lonely or frightened of women in real life? That their wives had left them or passed away? Or who just wanted to talk? Or who were physically challenged or too injured for women in civilian life to be attracted to them? What sort of bitch-hag would be so cold and bitter to each and every man who ever paid for her company?!

Either time has blurred the reality of her experience and made it seem far worse than it actually was. Or she is milking her past career for sympathy from certain other women who are predisposed to take her present account at face value to fuel their own rage and resentment against men.
Some people are perpetually angry and miserable. As I believe someone else mentioned above, I think she would be like this no matter what job she had...which is why she did this job because I suspect she is otherwise unemployable due to her shitty personality.

In that sense, I suppose she is/was kinda trapped in sex work insofar as no other employer would put up with her.
 

Goodoer

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GTA & Thereabouts...
There you go; some nice pictures of the lady. Nice eyes and a good smile.

Her letter and this thread is a bit of a bummer. I am fortunate to have the wonderful kids; but unfortunate to have a super-high sex drive while in a sexless relationship; fortunate to have the money to hobby... Blah, blah.

Time is passing, so what are the options? Blow up everything and hit Tinder? While tempting; I think of my kids and the fun/happy life they have. I also think of my SO who was awesome back in the day, but clearly has developed issues in all sorts of areas (not just sex). I've done the brief affairs with married women. It was thrilling, but there is guilt there as well AND a high level of 'danger'. I realized it was a dangerous path to head down, so went for SPs as the fun and more secret choice... Yeesh.

At the end of the day, I always 'hoped' the SP was having a decent time and making money. No guy wants to crush a spirit; we just want to crush a pussy.

I guess that is wrong... Clearly an affair would be the more noble choice to take in this world.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Hobbying is way more noble than having an affair
IMO. I am glad over the years the money I spent have
helped ameliorated financial hardships faced by many
of my regular MPAs.
 

havingfun

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Sometimes when you become a regular client and maybe share time off-the-clock, some popular, and seemingly happy ladies within the business will make some unguarded comments that reveal their deeper feelings. At least that has been my experience. I do not think that "good" clients in any way make up for all the crap these women go through. I think that most, once they are out, would rather not have to ever think about their experiences in the business again. There may be some exceptions but they are way fewer than most of us think. All in all i do not believe this is a good experience for them. But the money can be pretty terrific when they can hide their true feelings.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
...atf who he spent all kinds of time with once told him that
whenever she had sex with anyone in this business - even him -
it was like she lost another piece of her soul....


If she was my atf my response would be:

"...sorry to hear that ...but how did oral sex with me taste
like? Surely, my cum you swallowed wasn't smelly..."


BTW, I've been jerked off by several tens of MPAs
I wasn't in love with in my hobbying life. Thankfully
my soul is still intact.
 

mandrill

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Alternate theory:

There are some people whose memories transform over time into blanket denials. For instance, "I hated every moment with my ex, I cried the entire time. He was a total asshole." And there are 50 online photos of the girl and her ex laughing and having a great time.

Or "I hated my parents. I was depressed my entire childhood." And there are similarly 50 photos of the girl and her folks and siblings and pet dog at the cottage laughing and singing songs in the boat.

Some people don't remember stuff properly from even a few years back and transform everything into either a great time - "My ex was the best guy EVER!!!" - or a shitty time.

The fact that this woman voluntarily signed on for sex work and did it for quite a long time - 3 years is WAY longer than average in the business - suggests she actually kinda liked it.....
 
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