"Sexwork" Founder Carol Leigh Died

If I recall correctly Carol Leigh was the woman who along with me was the first to coin the phrase "GFE" girlfriend experience" which had nothing to do with sex acts. It was about a real human interaction with another person like a girlfriend, even if only for an hour with an escort. This was on the alt.sex.prostitution newsgroups before there were web sites using 300 baud dial-up modems.
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Carol Leigh, who sought to change the image and treatment of sex workers — a term she is generally credited with coining — through both mainstream advocacy work and her colorful performances and writings under the name Scarlot Harlot, died on Wednesday at her home in San Francisco of cancer. She was 71.

Ms. Leigh began working as a prostitute after moving to San Francisco from the East Coast in 1978. In a 1996 interview with The San Francisco Examiner, she said she was galvanized into activism in 1979 after two men raped her at the sex studio where she worked and she realized that if she reported the crime, the establishment would be shut down, leaving her and other women there unemployed.

She argued that some people engaged in prostitution by choice, and that many sex-for-money transactions — the escort business, for instance — were not the street-corner deals the general public pictured.Her point, sometimes expressed humorously, was to encourage a rethinking of the possible relationships between sex and commerce.

“Carol Leigh was — and will always remain — a staple in the movement for sex workers’ rights,” Jenny Heineman, who teaches sociology and anthropology at the University of Nebraska Omaha and has written about sex work and feminism, said by email. “Never shying away from hard conversations, she coined the term ‘sex work’ to encapsulate the intersecting challenges that stigmatized and criminalized laborers across the globe face.”

In the early 1980s Ms. Leigh developed a one-woman show, “The Adventures of Scarlot Harlot,” which she performed in San Francisco and elsewhere. In it she told stories from her working life, argued for a place at the feminist table and suggested that sex for money was perhaps not that different from whatever the audience did for money.

In the mid-1990s she served on a commission on prostitution created by the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, and in 2008 she was among the more vocal advocates of Proposition K in San Francisco, a ballot measure that would have had the effect of decriminalizing prostitution in the city. It failed. Its opponents included the city’s district attorney at the time, Kamala Harris.

Full article at https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/18/us/carol-leigh-dead.html
 

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You should have trademarked "Girlfriend Experience" if you did indeed coin it.
I thought Phil from Toronto Passions coined the phrase. At least that is what I read.

Personally - I doubt either one of them coined the phrase.
 
I thought Phil from Toronto Passions coined the phrase. At least that is what I read.
Was Phil active pre-websites on newsgroups with 300 baud dialups? I was very active back then and used GFE that had nothing to do will specific sex acts. Used a Wang computer and first DOS and then OS/2. There were none of the modern Windows systems with the later graphics all was colored text (white or yellow as I recall) on a black screen. Then came flobby disks that replaced card readers like IBM huge machines to read punches on cards.
 
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Was Phil active pre-websites on newsgroups with 300 baud dialups? I was very active back then and used GFE that had nothing to do will specific sex acts. Used a Wang computer and first DOS and then OS/2. There were none of the modern Windows systems with the later graphics all was colored text (white or yellow as I recall) on a black screen. Then came flobby disks that replaced card readers like IBM huge machines to read punches on cards.
Common sense says the term was said before computers. Prostitution has been around for eons dude. It is far more likely that the term came about years before the internet and if it only came out at the beginning of the internet, googling to see the Origin of the term would be easy to find. I mean we know where the term “420” came from and why so how do we not know this?

The term “sexwork” has an origin that can be searched but GFE doesn’t???? And if the BOTH of you coined the phrase, why is she accredited for one and not the other? Sorry but not buying it, but feel free to prove me wrong and find a link to a story that accredits you and her for making the term and I will happily apologize.

Edit - unless you are saying the term GFE was used before but you and her started using it to describe non sex appointments only? Is that what you are saying? Because t I hate to break it to you, it didn’t stick. It is used, even on TV like on that show with Charlie Sheen, to describe a type of session but sex is included.
 
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Common sense says the term was said before computers. Prostitution has been around for eons dude

The term “sexwork” has an origin that can be searched but GFE doesn’t???? And if the BOTH of you coined the phrase, why is she accredited for one and not the other? Sorry but not buying it, but feel free to prove me wrong and find a link to a story that accredits you and her for making the term and I will happily apologize.

Edit - unless you are saying the term GFE was used before but you and her started using it to describe non sex appointments only? Is that what you are saying? Because t I hate to break it to you, it didn’t stick. It is used, even on TV like on that show with Charlie Sheen, to describe a type of session but sex is included.
Obviously, prostitution has been around forever even in biblical times and the only thing negative about it was in the Temples of Corinth where it was a form of worshiping the fertility gods. It was the idolatry that was the "sin" not non-goddess prostitution which was common and accepted.

Carol has been credited with bringing attention to sex work as work..thus sexwork. That is what she was famous for.

I claim I was ONE OF the first to use GFE and got into many discussions about in on the alt.sex.prostitution and later Prodigy boards. Since no one else claimed to use it in common usage I use the expression ONE OF of the first to coin it. But I didn't write books about it or promote it other than in my discussion on newsgroups and now websites including on my sexwork.com and libchrist.com sites - neither has been updated for a decade or so.

In 2001 posted on my website a long discussion of it with others at http://www.sexwork.com/Intimacy/GFE.html. Also my long discussion at http://www.sexwork.com/subcontents/whymenpayGFE.html

If you Google search the term GFE, other than sex boards but those that look into the history, it is constantly referred to as an emotional/intimacy relationship not just pure sex - exactly what I have been arguing for decades is more fulfilling to many including myself - even if one time only for an hour with an escort.

That was also my issue with swinging. I was a Lifestyles convention speaker for a number of years at their big conventions filling rooms on "Swinging Christians not a biblical conflict" related to my Libchrist.com site and the Liberated Christians Phoenix couples group I led, with a few hundred members. But unlike pure "swinging" we were also friends and it was far more than just sexual. Likewise my interest in polyamory - supporting Loving More and Deborah Anapol.

While supportive of the swinging community, I was more poly but without living together, but forming real relationships not just sexual which many swingers use to avoid jealousy issues.

I shared a lot of ideas of Loving More founded Robert Rimmer, later joined by Deborah Anapol in 1994. I had met with her various times. My favorite expression is just like you can love more than one child, you can love more than just one adult. History at https://www.lovingmorenonprofit.org/aboutus/history/ It was also referred to as responsible non-monogamy and I wrote extensively about it decades ago at http://www.libchrist.com/poly/contents.html

Polyamory coined around 1990 by Morning Glory Ravenheart Zell, that has Latin and Greek roots that translate to “loving many”.

In my view, "GFE" has been perverted away from its original meaning of a more sensual intimate human interaction more than sex to just certain sex acts often potentially medically at higher risk for STDs etc.
 

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Obviously, prostitution has been around forever even in biblical times and the only thing negative about it was in the Temples of Corinth where it was a form of worshiping the fertility gods. It was the idolatry that was the "sin" not non-goddess prostitution which was common and accepted.

Carol has been credited with bringing attention to sex work as work..thus sexwork. That is what she was famous for.

I claim I was ONE OF the first to use GFE and got into many discussions about in on the alt.sex.prostitution and later Prodigy boards. Since no one else claimed to use it in common usage I use the expression ONE OF of the first to coin it. But I didn't write books about it or promote it other than in my discussion on newsgroups and now websites including on my sexwork.com and libchrist.com sites - neither has been updated for a decade or so.

In 2001 posted on my website a long discussion of it with others at http://www.sexwork.com/Intimacy/GFE.html. Also my long discussion at http://www.sexwork.com/subcontents/whymenpayGFE.html

If you Google search the term GFE, other than sex boards but those that look into the history, it is constantly referred to as an emotional/intimacy relationship not just pure sex - exactly what I have been arguing for decades is more fulfilling to many including myself - even if one time only for an hour with an escort.

That was also my issue with swinging. I was a Lifestyles convention speaker for a number of years at their big conventions filling rooms on "Swinging Christians not a biblical conflict" related to my Libchrist.com site and the Liberated Christians Phoenix couples group I led, with a few hundred members. But unlike pure "swinging" we were also friends and it was far more than just sexual. Likewise my interest in polyamory - supporting Loving More and Deborah Anapol.

While supportive of the swinging community, I was more poly but without living together, but forming real relationships not just sexual which many swingers use to avoid jealousy issues.

I shared a lot of ideas of Loving More founded Robert Rimmer, later joined by Deborah Anapol in 1994. I had met with her various times. My favorite expression is just like you can love more than one child, you can love more than just one adult. History at https://www.lovingmorenonprofit.org/aboutus/history/ It was also referred to as responsible non-monogamy and I wrote extensively about it decades ago at http://www.libchrist.com/poly/contents.html

Polyamory coined around 1990 by Morning Glory Ravenheart Zell, that has Latin and Greek roots that translate to “loving many”.

In my view, "GFE" has been perverted away from its original meaning of a more sensual intimate human interaction more than sex to just certain sex acts often potentially medically at higher risk for STDs etc.
In your original post you claim you were the first not one of in the first paragraph.
 
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In your original post you claim you were the first not one of in the first paragraph.
Legitimate point. I say on my website in 2001 "one of". At the time we used it seemed we had never heard it used before. But I agree to not start an argument I should use maybe "apparently one of" ... But I can find no record of it used prior to the 90s when the alt.sex.prostitution was virtually the only place it could have been used?? Since this was pre-websites. I wrote about it on my site in 2001 but this was many years after I used it on the newsgroup - before websites existed including mine.

Since my memory from the 1990s on a small issue is not clear to be more precise, someone and I started a huge discussion on GFE which no one as I recall had heard of before. I think it was Carol since I recall she was very active but could have been another of the 90s women not 100% sure. I note on my 2001 discussion on my webpage, I say one of... I don't find I mention who the others/s were but again think it was Carol - but a minor point.

BTW I was active on the original "Fred Zed" board -forget the name - before there were these current "erbs" and had good private discussions with him.
 
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Edit - unless you are saying the term GFE was used before but you and her started using it to describe non sex appointments only? Is that what you are saying?
Missed this part before. No, like with a girlfriend, sex was included but more intimate full-person interaction not just banging sex which I find very boring. I enjoy a more GFE (as the original term) which I have enjoyed in many escort/massage (nude reverse) relationships for the hour, which some folks will not understand but others do.
 
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