Arthur it was you who brought in your desire to go to Heaven- my guess if you call god a spaghetti monster then he might pasta on you getting into heaven- just a guess no real experience in calling god a spaghetti monster
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Should Catholic schools in Ontario continue to be publically funded?
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I have no worries or hopes of heavenYou're not familiar with the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Really? DISCRIMINATION! THAT won't get YOU into heaven. Sorry. Enjoy an eternity of nothingness.
I have broken every commandment at one point or another- I live every day as best I can
Who? Which god? Thor? Isis? Buddha? Flying Spaghetti Monster?
So still no explainnationwhy it's immoral, figured.You're not familiar with the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Really? DISCRIMINATION! THAT won't get YOU into heaven. Sorry. Enjoy an eternity of nothingness.
The reference you gave did no such thing, but hey.Explained and answered. Can't help you with reading.
Hey blackrock13, do you think it would be immoral if Ontario were to go back to government by the Family Compact? Or the dominance of the Orange Institution in provincial (and municipal) politics? If so, how are those meaningfully different from the status quo in funding schools for Catholics to the exclusion of all other religious communities?
what happened between separation between church and state? the only thing i found catholic schools good for when i was in high school was the uniforms the girls wore ;D (i attended a public high school with a catholic one next door, at lunch both schools shared the mall)
No, not immoral, just a step back, a big step. I've said for a long time, even on TERB, that there shouldn't be parallel systems, inefficient waste of space and funds. There should be one system with facilities inside the schools for religious classes and a chapel, for those who want to partake. In past threads I've also said if there was enough students and faculty interested the should be space for a temple or a synagogue. It's this exposure to the differences that will bring down the wall of ignorance in our society about the various cultures. society and religion.Hey blackrock13, do you think it would be immoral if Ontario were to go back to government by the Family Compact? Or the dominance of the Orange Institution in provincial (and municipal) politics? If so, how are those meaningfully different from the status quo in funding schools for Catholics to the exclusion of all other religious communities?
what happened between separation between church and state? the only thing i found catholic schools good for when i was in high school was the uniforms the girls wore ;D (i attended a public high school with a catholic one next door, at lunch both schools shared the mall)
I don't believe that we have that 'guaranteed' in the Charter. You do remember the 'not withstanding clause'?
Not by any definition I know for 'immoral'. Perhaps you can post your definition that fits the bill.Discrimination based on religion isn't immoral? Again, says loads about you.
I guess you didn't get past the first sentence, almost falling over your tongue to post this. I also gave you my preferred system.
Evasive.
What's evasive about saying there is not guarantee of separation in the Charter, which what was asked. Or is 'evasive' your word for the day?
Forget about everything else, my kid went through school with the school telling the students they can't afford textbooks.
All in the name of a "belief", based on storytelling.
All in the name of a "belief", based on storytelling.
Gee, actually using the law to protect ones rights, shame. It's your atheist beliefs that has you feeling the religious beliefs are delusional beliefs.Religious folks always falling back on the protection of the law to defend their delusional beliefs. Rather than, you know, actually defending them. Evasion.
If you talking about me, you must have forgot, I'm not one of them religious folks, haven't been for over 45 years.
How does not having enough textbooks connected to religious beliefs? The public schools have had the same problems in many school boards. It's not unique to Catholic schools.Forget about everything else, my kid went through school with the school telling the students they can't afford textbooks.
All in the name of a "belief", based on storytelling.
When your privileges trample on the legitimate rights of others (like equality before the law, or freedom of religion), it is a shame. I'm curious, do you use the same argument to defend Jim Crow laws? Slavery? Apartheid?Gee, actually using the law to protect ones rights, shame.
If you think I've defended apartheid at any time then you haven't been paying attention. Geee, so my solution of not having separate schools for Catholics, see post #47, is segregation? Yup, you certainly aren't paying attention and your short term memory needs help.When your privileges trample on the legitimate rights of others (like equality before the law, or freedom of religion), it is a shame. I'm curious, do you use the same argument to defend Jim Crow laws? Slavery? Apartheid?
I say stop finding the public system, the separate school boards are a lot more efficient at curriculum delivery.
I'm speaking strictly about your "there's nothing wrong with using the law to protect your 'rights'" comment above. It's a ridiculous argument.If you think I've defended apartheid at any time then you haven't been paying attention. Geee, so my solution of not having separate schools for Catholics, see post #47, is segregation? Yup, you certainly aren't paying attention and your short term memory needs help.
For what it's worth, the problem with your suggestion in post #47 (which is reasonable on the surface) is that you can end up with the taxpayer hosting (and by implication, endorsing) some practices and behaviours that fly in the face of commonly accepted Canadian values like gender equality (e.g., the Valley Park controversy). Personally I'd rather see partial (not full) public funding of any and all religious schools that meet minimum standards for curricular content and user demand in a given catchment area, and keep fully-funded public schools free of religion. But that's me, your suggestion is still miles better than the status quo.
Has nothing to do with religon but building 2 systems and segragating isn't cheap. The real discussion is can we afford to sacrifice our children's education, while spending money to build school board offices made out of teak and granite. All in the name of "possibly" an ancient children's story.How does not having enough textbooks connected to religious beliefs? The public schools have had the same problems in many school boards. It's not unique to Catholic schools.
Ya I'll find out when I pass, I'll try to post you guys when I get there.
I would qualify the 'lot'. Some or a few would be more accurate. The Catholic board will only hire non-Catholics if there isn't a qualified Catholic. A quick look at any Catholic Board hiring site has a requirement for a reference from your priest that you are pracicing. And yes, non-Catholics can go to Catholic Secondary schools but they don't have to admit non-Catholics to (publicly funded) elementary schools.A lot of catholic schools have non catholic teachers and their Board offices have tons of non Catholic consultants. In fact you don't have to be catholic to be a student in these schools
