Smith & Wesson .460 caliber ‘Backpack Cannon’
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Holy snap on the recoil!
There re is no friggin way you could double tap that thing, never mind putting three in the boiler room.
There re is no friggin way you could double tap that thing, never mind putting three in the boiler room.
Whether it be the Smith & Wesson .460 caliber ‘Backpack Cannon’ or .44 cal. Magnum or any hand held firearm. These would be the weapons of last resort if you wake up with a grizzly bear in your tent and only if you can not reach your long arm.
I prefer the Browning High Power.
Good enough for the Canadian Military and even the SAS for years, on a side note do any of you gun enthusiasts know what gun is replacing the Hi Power and Sig-Sauer for our Canadian Military? I heard it was the Glock at one time, but because the Canadian Military wanted the license for Colt Canada to produce the handgun Glock wouldn't agree, so now I am unsure as to what sidearm the Canadian Military will choose...
This is an interesting thread.
A 1911 is not always cocked - it is a SA DA. You must first chamber a round, then you can release the hammer - the safety can only be engaged/disengaged when a magazine is in the gun. To fire the first round, pull the hammer back, release the safety, fire - this is the SA part. The hammer not need to be pulled back for the second shot - this is the DA part.
Glocks are different - there is no external hammer or safety. Once you chamber a round it is ready to fire. SIGs are typically used by OPP, Glocks by TPS.
No one is stupid enough to hunt with a handgun; if you are a fur trapper the goal is to save as much of the fur as possible. It is highly unlikely a 1911 would be able to stop a bear - well maybe as if you shoot it in the mouth as it is about to bite your head off.
An LATT is not firearm specific - it is for all registered firearms from your place of residence to the club.
The semi-auto part of a Glock, 1911, etc. is what makes the "blowback" (upward motion of the barrel) more manageable - the same cannot be said when shooting a Desert Eagle. To do this for a revolver the barrel is "ported" - check out the little slot cuts at the end of the barrel. Recoil is generally associated with the backward motion when firing a rifle or shotgun.
As for double tapping - unless you have arms like the Rock or Arnie forget that nonsense - this is different if you are an experience shooter. Hollywood makes that look easy - but we live in real life.
Sorry to shatter people's fantasy - but that scene where Arnie shoots up the forest in Predator is so fake it is comical. He would need a truck to cool and hold that machine gun and a trailer to carry that amount ammunition - but it was fun to watch.
As for losing accuracy in rapid fire - check out You Tub vids on Cowboy Acton type shooting matches.
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A 1911 is not always cocked - it is a SA DA. You must first chamber a round, then you can release the hammer - the safety can only be engaged/disengaged when a magazine is in the gun. To fire the first round, pull the hammer back, release the safety, fire - this is the SA part. The hammer not need to be pulled back for the second shot - this is the DA part.
Glocks are different - there is no external hammer or safety. Once you chamber a round it is ready to fire. SIGs are typically used by OPP, Glocks by TPS.
No one is stupid enough to hunt with a handgun; if you are a fur trapper the goal is to save as much of the fur as possible. It is highly unlikely a 1911 would be able to stop a bear - well maybe as if you shoot it in the mouth as it is about to bite your head off.
An LATT is not firearm specific - it is for all registered firearms from your place of residence to the club.
The semi-auto part of a Glock, 1911, etc. is what makes the "blowback" (upward motion of the barrel) more manageable - the same cannot be said when shooting a Desert Eagle. To do this for a revolver the barrel is "ported" - check out the little slot cuts at the end of the barrel. Recoil is generally associated with the backward motion when firing a rifle or shotgun.
As for double tapping - unless you have arms like the Rock or Arnie forget that nonsense - this is different if you are an experience shooter. Hollywood makes that look easy - but we live in real life.
Sorry to shatter people's fantasy - but that scene where Arnie shoots up the forest in Predator is so fake it is comical. He would need a truck to cool and hold that machine gun and a trailer to carry that amount ammunition - but it was fun to watch.
As for losing accuracy in rapid fire - check out You Tub vids on Cowboy Acton type shooting matches.
Google is your friend
People do hunt with handguns. Mostly as a last resort, when the game is too close for comfort. The S&W .500 is an example of this, and will take down a grizzly at close range. Fur trappers often use a pistol to dispatch a trapped animal that's still alive quickly and more humanely, rather than letting it die slowly in the trap. Also, in the remote areas where they trap, they are used by trappers for defense against mountain lions and such.
And it wasn't Arnie shooting up the forest with the mini gun in Predator. It was Jesse "The Body" Ventura.
....a beautiful women who's into and knows her guns, where have you been hiding all my life? ...
I have a passing acquaintance with the A 1911 ( and variants ) but I am by no means familiar with them. Some pistols are made in a manner where the firing pin rest against the primer of the bullet in the hammer down position the hammer must be activated in SA or DA mode and strike the firing pin in order to discharge a bullet. On guns where the hammer rest against the firing pin the pistol can discharge when dropped on the hammer which will cause the hammer to strike the firing pin and discharge a bullet. The safest way to carry these pistols is locked and cocked, the hammer is cocked and the pistol is locked in the safe position.
An additional precaution is to have the holster snap hold the pistol in the holster in a manner where it stops the hammer from resting on the firing pin.
Pistols in the DND was a mish mash of many types of pistols from different eras. Less so now than years before, because there is no priority to choose and buy a replacement pistol. My bet is that it will either be the Beretta M9 or Glock 17
Ceiling Cat holds his "Glock" in his hand and stands very close Kathleen, pressing it against her and said : Do not make any sudden moves or I will give it to you in the back. Then he reaches in front of her to search her for weapons. .......................................twenty minutes go by, after a thorough search Ceiling Cat has found no weapons.
The .44 Automag never took off.
Even though we have never met in person but I've always thought of you as smart and classy. Now I find out that you like to throw lead? Your stock just went up in my books!
Colt doesn't own Glock.
I suspect you're thinking of the replacement program for the arctic rangers - lee enfield. The DND asked all bidders to agree to license Colt Canada to manufacture the rifles if they were selected. They all said screw off.
I am very knowledgable on guns and I know that Colt doesn't own Glock. Here is what I am talking about:
http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/article/65674military_cancels_planned_weapons_purchase/
But DND also stipulated that any firms wanting to bid on the two contracts would have to turn over their technical data and proprietary information to the government, which in turn would pass it on to Colt Canada. Colt would then manufacture the weapons at its plant in Kitchener, Ont.
That is the problem with the DND, politics. Years ago they wanted to buy Iltis APV from VW. The DND ended up paying 4 to 5 times the cost because they had to buy the license to build the vehicle in Canada by Bombardier. As far as replacement rifle for the Arctic Rangers, I would go to the local sporting goods store and buy them Mini-14s in stainless with polymer stocks.
http://frontierfirearms.ca/index.ph.../ruger/ruger-mini-14-stainless-synthetic.html
http://frontierfirearms.ca/index.ph.../ruger/ruger-mini-14-stainless-synthetic.html
While I know what you are saying that is not the terminology I would use.
On an M1911A (and the M1911) in order to do anything after you have seated the magazine you have to cycle the action this puts a cartridge into the chamber and brings back the hammer. Most people after the above drop the magazine and put another round into it. There is a manual safety (on the left rear of the frame) and a grip safety.
The principle modification I believe most people would want to see is a double - single action in other words that unless you manually pull the hammer back, that the first pull of the trigger is double action and subsequent pulls of the trigger are single action.
If you were out where the critters can eat you, would you rather have :
A) Smith & Wesson .460 caliber ‘Backpack Cannon’
or
B) Ruger Mini 14, .223 Remington
I used a 460 revolver in a safari competition a few years ago. I think it had a 5" barrel and it was compensated. I would not describe the recoil as horrendous....awesome was the only word that came to mind. That being said I wouldn't want to shoot it all day. I've also competed with a 44 magnum and tried a s&w 500....none of which numbed my hands.
Steve
That being said I wouldn't want to shoot it all day. I've also competed with a 44 magnum and tried a s&w 500....none of which numbed my hands. Steve
Neither.
If you were out where the critters can eat you, would you rather have :
A) Smith & Wesson .460 caliber ‘Backpack Cannon’
or
B) Ruger Mini 14, .223 Remington
