Snowmageddon 2013! Do you have All Season Tires?
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that wasn't lkd that said that, he was quoting an edit from one of the fine ladies here. so you just insulted her. nice job.
Just saw a bit on CTV NEWS about 4 young men offering their services to shovel snow for a fee. Isn't this illegal? Aren't only authorized highly paid unionized municipal workers allowed to shovel snow for money?
what makes an ordinary citizen offering to shovel snow for money illegal? is shoveling a professional job like an engineer or architect, that you need to have education or passed some exam? if that was the case indeed, I'd have gone postal this evening for the poor job that snow plough driver did today
Only problem I see is the taxman won't collect his share.
kind of like when the hairdresser cuts hair in their garage or doctors make housecalls for cash.
In the case of these kids the amounts may be considered immaterial and it's not their main occupation.
Mind you , thy could clean up pretty well in the right circumstances.
Pretty much like the ability of panhandlers to collect in excess of $1000 in a day if they have a good location like Yonge and Dundas.
Odd, when I lived in Ontario we had studded tires. Well snow grips with studs added by Canadian Tire. They are wonderful.
Oh and we gave them to Loki's daughter again this year as a present. So I do not think the laws ban studs.
I was actually thinking back to the garbage strike when our neighbourhood wanted to hire a private contractor to haul our garbage and was advised that only authorized unionized municipal workers can pick up our trash. Maybe, this rule doesn't apply to hiring a private person to shovel the sidewalk in front of our houses since the city won't do it.
All loans are fully secured. I was also a paralegal for years. Don't need a collection agency.
And therein lies the problem. Just because your AWD gets you up to speed quickly, doesn't mean you can stop any quicker. In fact you simply can't stop faster than a vehicle equipped with winter tires and that not only goes for snowy conditions but even in the dry in cold temperatures.
Ever notice how many SUV's with AWD you see in the ditch when it snows?
True, Winter/ice tires are good for improved handling or traction, but stopping is still down to common sense. Winters do give better chance at stopping but no tire will help an idiot driver stop and avoid an accident if he is too confident, which some people are guilty of. Still, it is fact that Winter tires are safer, so for me it's a no-brainer. What it is NOT is a free-pass to drive like an idiot.
I was driving up the hill north of Hamilton on Hwy 6 Friday morning and there was an obstacle course of cars and tractor trailers hardly moving, stuck, or sliding backwards. Made it without too much difficulty in my little car with 2-year-old snow tires on the front and 3-year-old on the back. Too many people over-accelerate or follow too closely to cars in front of them, so they have to brake or slow down. What I really hate are people who spin their tires up the whole hill, slicking it up for everyone else. The trick is to maintain a moderate speed and to maintain a large enough space ahead of you so that you don't have to restrict your speed for another vehicle.
Ontario
Studded tires are permitted between Oct. 1 and April 30 and only north of the Parry Sound and Nipissing districts. Northern Ontario residents can use studded tires anywhere in Ontario during this time frame. It is illegal for southern Ontario residents to use studded tires in southern Ontario; they can be fined up to CA$1,000. The studs must be lightweight Scandinavian studs that can only have a 5/64-inch protrusion past the surface of the tire. To view additional regulations, please visit the Government of Ontario website listed in References.
Read more: Canadian Laws for Studded Tires | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6812146_canadian-laws-studded-tires.html#ixzz2KbgiPy7H
i just called canadian tire. they don't sell studded tires in ontario. i just found this on the highway traffic act site. they have been banned in southern ontario since 1973.
In the Canadian province of Ontario, that nation’s only studded tire ban has been in effect since 1973. In the face of criticism from motor vehicle safety analysts, questioning the nearly 30-year old policy, (CBC 2003a), the Ministry of Transportation reconsidered the studded tire ban during
1999-2000, conducting an extensive review of studded tire policies in other national and regionaljurisdictions. Their findings supported the continuation of the studded tire ban “because, despite advances in technology, the disadvantages of studded tires continue to outweigh their
advantages.” The specific disadvantages cited included the “considerable health and road safety problems” caused by studded tires, the “limited potential [safety] benefits” compared to the negative impacts
Studded tires were banned because they used to chew up the roads. They banned them to save the costs of resurfacing roads until they had to. Also studded tires were giving people a false sense of security when if you drive for the conditions, you'll be just as safe.
Why does this "idiot factor" always enter into every discussion on winter tires?
Yes, everyone else is an idiot. We all understand that. But the fact remains that experts and idiots alike benefit from the irrefutable physics of softer winter tires to help steering and braking.
it all boils down to...common sense. your vehicle is loaded with snow tires, Awd and you're careful enough...some people are not and giving the wrong place at the wrong time will put you at the scene of the accident whether you like it or not.
Basic common sense. I've never had any problem stopping my vehicle in snow or rain since I'm experienced enough to know the limits of my cars and smart enough to remember the basic fundamentals of driving like "not driving too close" "looking ahead and reading road situations" "giving yourself enough time to brake" etc.etc.
Of course my AWD vehicle with all season tires cant stop faster then a vehicle with snow tires but they do a very, very good job in snow/slush braking. In snow I never put myself in a position to need to stop on a dime since I know how to control my speed for different types of driving situations.
In the rain my car stops fine. I do not need snow tires my all seasons work great. Like I said the only reason I took the bus on Friday was because I don't trust other drivers and didn't want to get hit and have to wait for a cop or tow truck in that mess. I have a 45min easy bus ride to work and that day the 6bux was well worth it.
The only vehicles I seen in ditch's on Friday were all cars and most were rear wheel drive. I didn't see any SUV or AWD vehicles in any ditch.
Smart move. I could've taken the same route but being that I have to pick up members of the family...I have to drive. And like you, I have total control of my car....knows it's limits...had snow tire and AWD. I took side roads that I know won't have a lot of vehicles because it won't be as clean and am confident that I won't get stuck even with 1 feet of snow. Had to stop on a few streets to help some people who got stuck and managed to teach some newbs some tricks to get by thick snow. All these winter seasons and I'm surprise a lot of people still think flooring their gas pedals will get them out of snow. Lol. I always distance myself to the vehicle in front and in snow, I double that distance. But as always...there are people who thought otherwise and learn it the hard way.
And last friday...I was smiling on my way home...
I know what you mean. I purchased my first AWD vehicle 6 years ago and now will never go back to a car without it. AWD in bad snow conditions is actually fun as well as safe.
Its nice not having to drive with clinched butt cheeks:thumb:
