So basically there's a HIV vaccine, but big pharma refuses to make an affordable $40 version for the world.

[onomatopoeia]

About this developed by "the Government" aspect... can you direct us to some more (reputable) information on this.

Origin Of AIDS The Polio Vaccine (2004, 'Witness' news program, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation)

Left-click the link to watch online; right-click it to download, (91 minutes, 309 MB)

The skinny: The documentary is about a theory that HIV was initially spread via tainted polio vaccines developed and used in the Belgian Congo, (current day Zaire), in the late 1950's.

 

[Valcazar]

About this developed by "the Government" aspect... can you direct us to some more (reputable) information on this.

Look up Kary Mullis

 

[squeezer]

Understanding the origins and prevalence of AIDS conspiracy beliefs in the United States and South Africa

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1467-9566.2012.01480.x

Origin Of AIDS The Polio Vaccine (2004, 'Witness' news program, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation)

Left-click the link to watch online; right-click it to download, (91 minutes, 309 MB)

The skinny: The documentary is about a theory that HIV was initially spread via tainted polio vaccines developed and used in the Belgian Congo, (current day Zaire), in the late 1950's.

Debunked: The Polio Vaccine and HIV Link

Debunked: The Polio Vaccine and HIV Link

In the 1990s, journalist Edward Hooper wrote a book claiming that an oral polio vaccine had been the source of the HIV/AIDS epidemic. Evidence does not support his conjecture.

historyofvaccines.org

REALITY

Origins of HIV and the AIDS Pandemic

Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) of humans is caused by two lentiviruses, human immunodeficiency viruses types 1 and 2 (HIV-1 and HIV-2). Here, we describe the origins and evolution of these viruses, and the circumstances that led to the AIDS ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[y2kmark]

You mean like the same (reputable) sources that told you Covid came from Chinese people eating bats?

that was either Adam West, or a Republican ...

 

[jalimon]

they did the same with treatment of Hepatite C. it cost 120k for years until pressure on the pharma was to high.

This is why healthcare should be free. It would make pharma spend less on marketing. Prices would be fixed by single buyer, the government.

 

[DesRicardo]

that was either Adam West, or a Republican ...

It was much more. Even The WHO was investigating wet markets.

Coronavirus: WHO developing guidance on wet markets

The World Health Organization calls for stricter safety and hygiene when wet markets reopen.

www.bbc.com

But one thing for sure is it wasn't a lab leak.

 

[onomatopoeia]

they did the same with treatment of Hepatite C. it cost 120k for years until pressure on the pharma was to high.

This is why healthcare should be free. It would make pharma spend less on marketing. Prices would be fixed by single buyer, the government.

Do you think that big pharmaceutical companies would reduce prices if everything they produced would be a guaranteed sale to governments? I don't.

Pharmaceutical companies have a disincentive to develop medicines which cure diseases. There's a lot more money to be made from medicine which manages symptoms.

There are former opiate addicts who haven't used heroin/ morphine, etc for 30+ years who still drink methadone daily, at the taxpayers' expense. They should have been weaned years ago, by gradually reducing and/ or diluting the methadone until it was no longer required, but that would end mean a decline in methadone sales, resulting in a smaller dividend for shareholders.

Pharmaceutical companies also create and sell non-essential medicines. Should the taxpayer foot the bill for his neighbour's Cialis, or a co-worker's Minoxidil? If all health care were free, would things like liposuction, nose jobs or lip implants become rights for the people who want them?

 

[jalimon]

Do you think that big pharmaceutical companies would reduce prices if everything they produced would be a guaranteed sale to governments? I don't.

Pharmaceutical companies have a disincentive to develop medicines which cure diseases. There's a lot more money to be made from medicine which manages symptoms.

There are former opiate addicts who haven't used heroin/ morphine, etc for 30+ years who still drink methadone daily, at the taxpayers' expense. They should have been weaned years ago, by gradually reducing and/ or diluting the methadone until it was no longer required, but that would end mean a decline in methadone sales, resulting in a smaller dividend for shareholders.

Pharmaceutical companies also create and sell non-essential medicines. Should the taxpayer foot the bill for his neighbour's Cialis, or a co-worker's Minoxidil? If all health care were free, would things like liposuction, nose jobs or lip implants become rights for the people who want them?

Don’t see free healthcare as free everything. It only concerns essential. Most medicine are not free. Even insulin although its much cheaper than in the US.

There is a reason the US is the only developed country in the world without free healthcare.

Insurer plays a big part…

 

[Oistins]

Show them $40,000 and they'll make you a believer.

Proly normal saline. How would you know if the alleged is efficacious? I’m not that trusting.

 

[HungSowel]

If true, I do not see the problem. In 20 years the patent will expire and everyone can get the generic version for cheap. Our patent system is a good system, if we run into an advanced alien race certainly they will have a patent system with a duration of about ~1/4th of their lifespan or the amount of time it takes for their babies to reach adulthood.