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Careful going to Home depot and asking for caulk
But then they can ask for clarification:

"Mam, do want the hard setting variety.
Or would you prefer the kind that stays pliable?"

Kind of a big simile for a lot of relationship issues.
 

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At least people can still understand you if you pronounce salmon with an L, Vaughn with a G, Etobicoke with a K, etc.I think these spelling anomalies were done with aesthetics in mind and not meant to be said aloud.

You should try Cantonese or Mandarin where a tone shift could mean a completely different word. At least Mandarin has only 4 or 5 tones. Cantonese has 6 of them.
 

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I heard Mandarin and Japanese were the hardest
As with anything else, learning a language takes time, patience, practice and you need to be willing to learn. Obviously, it helps to be immersed in the culture of the language that you're trying to learn. I honestly wish I had been more willing to pickup my mother tongue when I was a kid. Sadly, there were very few kids of my background in my neighborhood and school. So I never had an opportunity to practice other than at home with my parents.

Not sure if you heard of him, but Toronto born Mark Rowswell aka Dashan is a famous celebrity in China because his Mandarin is just as good if not better than native speakers.


There's also a YouTuber named Xiomanyc that can speak many different languages fluently.

 
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A conceit held by native English speakers. I had a teacher who was Dutch and spoke 4 languages. She said English was the easiest. Very simple.
Sure if you are dutch.

English has it's issues having had many influences but for most people I don't think it comes close to the need to click like in some Africas like the sort found in South Wakanda. The the hellish grammer of Arabic, Korean/Japanese, or Finnish. Pekele!
Of course none of these compare to R'lyehian which is literally impossible to pronounce only approximate.
H' ah mgahoth ng path l' mgehye'lloig l' ah'gotha

Also Dutch is pretty impossible because they pretty much all speak English even better than we do so if you try to practice, they will just make it easy on you and speak the English.

As for the French, it's easy. All you need to know
 
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So you don't pronounce the L is Salmon?

Somebody wants a word with you




For those who don't know, Salmon Khan from the movie Sultan. Now you know. Always seemed a bit fishy.
 
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I don't think the "L" in "Salmon" is supposed to be silent.
I just think that if you say the word fast enough, even if you do pronounce the "L", you just don't hear it.
 
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Sure if you are dutch.

English has it's issues having had many influences but for most people I don't think it comes close to the need to click like in some Africas like the sort found in South Wakanda. The the hellish grammer of Arabic, Korean/Japanese, or Finnish. Pekele!
Of course none of these compare to R'lyehian which is literally impossible to pronounce only approximate.
H' ah mgahoth ng path l' mgehye'lloig l' ah'gotha

Also Dutch is pretty impossible because they pretty much all speak English even better than we do so if you try to practice, they will just make it easy on you and speak the English.

As for the French, it's easy. All you need to know
The Dutch. I remember decades ago a bunch of NATO countries had their navies massed in Montreal for some reason. The servicemen hit the local bars and someone did some research into their general behavior. One of the comments was that the Dutch sailors spoke the best English, and were very easy to understand. The English sailors spoke by far the worst English and were generally impossible to understand.
I actually asked a Dutch woman why it was that the Dutch speak such good English. She contorted her face into a visage of pain and said "we try and we try and we try".
 

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At least people can still understand you if you pronounce salmon with an L, Vaughn with a G, Etobicoke with a K, etc.I think these spelling anomalies were done with aesthetics in mind and not meant to be said aloud.

You should try Cantonese or Mandarin where a tone shift could mean a completely different word. At least Mandarin has only 4 or 5 tones. Cantonese has 6 of them.
I have not gone that way but many years ago I studied Russian and Deutsche and was struggling lol can't imagine with Cantonese. I never really practice and lost it all.
 
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Deutsche is the same language roots than English. Lots of words are similar. The only thing confusing is how they place the words to form a sentence.
Half and half with Spanish. Got a "German made simple" book and a "Spanish made simple" At the beginning of the book they list a page of words that are pretty much the same in the case of German and in the other book English. Pretty amazing how many are lifted directly from both languages.
 
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Half and half with Spanish. Got a "German made simple" book and a "Spanish made simple" At the beginning of the book they list a page of words that are pretty much the same in the case of German and in the other book English. Pretty amazing how many are lifted directly from both languages.
I meant that they are all derived from the same roots of languages. English, Deutsch and Swedish are derived from proto-germanic. French, Spanish, Italian and Romanian are originally from Latin. I will check that book! But you are right, there are a lot of words that are the same in all languages even from Russian.
 
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