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squeezer

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Fauci Said Masks 'Not Really Effective in Keeping Out Virus,' Email Reveals

"The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you."

He added: "I do not recommend that you wear a mask, particularly since you are going to a very low risk location."
Wow, grasping at statements from Feb 2020, dude, you realize we are halfway through 2021 right??
 
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lenny2

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Fauci Said Masks 'Not Really Effective in Keeping Out Virus,' Email Reveals

"The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you."

He added: "I do not recommend that you wear a mask, particularly since you are going to a very low risk location."
Fauci (and you as well, probably) was wrong re the life saving effect of mask use from covid19 severe illness & death. The evidence that changed his opinion came out later. That evidence was revealed in the first half of 2020 when masks were recommended or even mandated widely globally & by the vast majority of health experts & nations on the planet.


Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
There is no evidence of transmission from free-floating viral particles. The transmission is from respiratory droplets and aerosols, the smallest of which are in the 5 um range.
...and surgical masks filter down to 1um.
"The surgical mask blocked about 60% of .03 micron particles and over 90% of 1 micron and 2.5 micron particles."


"in one study, researchers tested particles down to .007 microns (even smaller than viruses) and found that a simple surgical mask blocked 80%."

"... it’s downright surprising that surgical masks are just as effective [as N95 masks]! Maybe virus particles are actually easy to capture because they fly on water droplets.

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/n95-mask-surgical-prevent-transmission-coronavirus/?rel=1
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Wow, grasping at statements from Feb 2020, dude, you realize we are halfway through 2021 right??
Fauci: "The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material".

Kinda what I been saying all along, and what you guys have refuted until now
 
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Exactly! You're proof that not all right wingers are backward hicks!
It would take a prodigious logician indeed to work out that proof. More like some are more backwards than others🤠...
 

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Fauci: "The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material".

Kinda what I been saying all along, and what you guys have refuted until now
This is because you do not progress and take in new information. I bet you still wear bell-bottom jeans and Master John shoes and think you look cool.
 
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Fauci: "The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material".

Kinda what I been saying all along, and what you guys have refuted until now
You mean Fauci learned from new information and you didn't.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You mean Fauci learned from new information and you didn't
No, because micron size of the virus was already known when he wrote that email, so he knew it would go straight through a surgical mask.

The only reason why he became pro-mask was to hop on the politically correct bandwagon
 

Valcazar

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No, because micron size of the virus was already known when he wrote that email, so he knew it would go straight through a surgical mask.

The only reason why he became pro-mask was to hop on the politically correct bandwagon
You mean Fauci learned from new information and you didn't.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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You're very welcome!
He's full of shit.
The micron size of the virus was already known when he wrote that email, so he knew it would go straight through a surgical mask.
He's trying to bulllshit his way out of it
 

squeezer

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He's full of shit.
The micron size of the virus was already known when he wrote that email, so he knew it would go straight through a surgical mask.
He's trying to bulllshit his way out of it
Of course! What else are you going to say? You are so predictable.
 
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No, because micron size of the virus was already known when he wrote that email, so he knew it would go straight through a surgical mask.

The only reason why he became pro-mask was to hop on the politically correct bandwagon
I think that Fauci was referring to these type of masks. LOL!!

 

Phil C. McNasty

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Kinda what I've been saying for the past year now



Masks are unlikely to halt the spread of the omicron variant, an Oxford professor warned as face coverings were reintroduced on public transport and in shops.

From Tuesday, shoppers and travellers in England face fines of £200 for refusing to wear a mask, with the penalties doubling for each offence to a maximum of £6,400.

However, Jim Naismith, director of the Rosalind Franklin Institute and professor of structural biology at the University of Oxford, said mask mandates had done little to prevent the spread of the delta variant in Scotland and were unlikely to stop omicron.
Scotland kept its mask rules after lifting restrictions in the summer, with coverings mandatory in shops and public transport as well as in schools and when not seated pubs and restaurants.

Despite the rules, the country saw a surge of Covid infections in the autumn, similar to rises seen in England.

Prof Naismith said: "The Office for National Statistics survey results on prevalence shows that the Scottish and English approach to masking, although formally different since July, has made no meaningful difference to delta.

"In both countries, very high levels of prevalence have continued for months. Thus the new changes announced are unlikely to have much of an impact if omicron does indeed spread rapidly."

Experts remain divided on how much impact face masks have in preventing the spread of Covid. Some believe they are only useful when social distancing cannot be maintained, while others think they prevent the picking up of virus particles in the air even when people are not close.

Robert Dingwall, a professor of sociology at Nottingham Trent University and a former government Covid adviser, said: "We can certainly say with confidence that all the extra restrictions in those nations do not seem to be having much effect, given that the trajectory of infections does not differ markedly from that in England.

"However, we cannot then go on to single out one element and draw conclusions about that. Mask mandates are only one part of the package, and the comparisons often lack details about enforcement and compliance.

"I hear, for example, that Aberdeen is much more relaxed than either Glasgow or Edinburgh – and I suspect that once you get into smaller towns there is very little going on.

"In my view, the only thing that really has an impact on transmission is working from home and reducing social contacts altogether, but the Government is desperate not to stall the back to the office
 

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Kinda what I've been saying for the past year now
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Yes your op/ed is correct, masks alone aren't able to stop the spread of a contagious virus. No one said it does Doesn't change the fact that any mask reduces the velocity and spread of any viral particles that make it through or around a mask.

All masks recue the spread somewhat and no mask (not even your much touted N95 that isn't professionally fitted to you) stops the virus 100%. It's amazing that you keep claiming that masks shown to be 90% effective at filtering particles is useless but ones that filter 95% are the only ones that work.

But at least you're not telling us we don't know the long term impact of mask use. :rolleyes:
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Yes your op/ed is correct, masks alone aren't able to stop the spread of a contagious virus. No one said it does Doesn't change the fact that any mask reduces the velocity and spread of any viral particles that make it through or around a mask
No, they don't
 
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