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Bigdaug

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Not being attracted physically to a certain race is not racist.

I dont date or hookup with black women either. I'm just not attracted to them. I don't have a problem with black people. Its just nothing there.
 

Jasmine Raine

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yes, but such choice is racist. So, is racism is OK?
I already explained the difference between racism and discrimination.

I can't say if one is racism or not, without knowing the individual and their opinions.

I can only say that it is discrimination at most. If we are generalizing.

Racism is not ok.
 

gibarian

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Yes! This is a free country. As long as you are not breaking any law, you can be racist, fascist, homophobic, etc. No one should care. Furthermore, you should not be discriminated based on your believes whatever these beliefs (including discrimination at the workplace)
You are consistently one of the most psychotic and dangerous people on the board.

"you can be racist, fascist, homophobic, etc. No one should care."

Do you even understand what a fascist is?

A racist fascist or a homophobic fascist would -- definitionally -- be an individual who is striving for the political power to eliminate or oppress other individuals based on their race or sexual orientation. You don't think anyone should care about that?

Stop posting. You're a dull pseudo-intellectual and you embarrass yourself every time your fingers hit the keyboard.
 

Damnthealiens

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I already explained the difference between racism and discrimination.

I can't say if one is racism or not, without knowing the individual and their opinions.

I can only say that it is discrimination at most. If we are generalizing.

Racism is not ok.
But how do you differentiate one from another. Isnt discrimination the effect of racism. Isnt descrimination against a particular ethnicity the definition of racism?
 

Jasmine Raine

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But how do you differentiate one from another. Isnt discrimination the effect of racism. Isnt descrimination against a particular ethnicity the definition of racism?
Not always.

I'm not saying it is not hard to tell. It is. Which is why you can't assume, or at least I don't assume.

I acknowledge there are ladies who are adamantly racist and would be repulsed by a black cock. I feel sorry for those people. And I hope that the "no black men" ad would help men of colour not to have to deal with a person like that.

All I am saying is legally it will always be a woman's choice first.

That racism and discrimination are separate but can be combined.

Escorts discriminate against many things, myself included since I won't see women for example.

Please don't take my factual comments as comments of support for these types of ads. I believe racism to wrong. I think any lady who refuses to see someone solely because of their race is wrong. But not all escort who refuse a race are doing so for racist reason. Some are and some aren't.
 

xmontrealer

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But how do you differentiate one from another. Isnt discrimination the effect of racism. Isnt descrimination against a particular ethnicity the definition of racism?
I believe that Damnthealiens has certain position in his mind on this matter, and nothing anyone of us have said, or can say, will change any part of it.

I tried my best. This my last post in this thread.
 

Damnthealiens

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I believe that Damnthealiens has certain position in his mind on this matter, and nothing anyone of us have said, or can say, will change any part of it.

I tried my best. This my last post in this thread.
Oh no no it's got nothing do with changing anyone's mind. When such events happens deeper inspection is required to see if it is something each of us can change. I just believe if someone is racist they should be cool with it and accept it rather than bieng in denial. I think acceptance helps find a solution
 

Samranchoi

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Honestly, absolutely stupid thread.

Preference does not equal discrimination in ALL cases. Unless you know the EXACT reason why an SP has certain restrictions based upon race, don’t assume it is due to racism.
 

fall

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Not being attracted physically to a certain race is not racist.

I dont date or hookup with black women either. I'm just not attracted to them. I don't have a problem with black people. Its just nothing there.
It is not about attraction: it is about sex services :). While attraction scan definitely make job better (e.g., RMTs may also prefer not to massage fit dudes or women instead of fat old farts like myself), it is job, in which it seems racism is OK (and I agree that it is OK)
 

fall

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I already explained the difference between racism and discrimination.

I can't say if one is racism or not, without knowing the individual and their opinions.

I can only say that it is discrimination at most. If we are generalizing.

Racism is not ok.
If it is about "black clients are more likely to be trouble" then it is discrimination (yet, we do not want to see discrimination at other industries). If it is "I feel disgusted having sex with black guy" - it is racism
 

fall

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You are consistently one of the most psychotic and dangerous people on the board.

"you can be racist, fascist, homophobic, etc. No one should care."

Do you even understand what a fascist is?

A racist fascist or a homophobic fascist would -- definitionally -- be an individual who is striving for the political power to eliminate or oppress other individuals based on their race or sexual orientation. You don't think anyone should care about that?

Stop posting. You're a dull pseudo-intellectual and you embarrass yourself every time your fingers hit the keyboard.
You misunderstand. What I mean: it should not matter how a person feels (racist, homophobic, etc.) - it is free country. If he acts on his beliefs in a way that it harms others - then it is a different matter. If KKK members come together at a private property do whatever they want, put any signs (visible from outside) - it is their private business. Only when they acted on it - it is wrong.
 

fall

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But how do you differentiate one from another. Isnt discrimination the effect of racism. Isnt descrimination against a particular ethnicity the definition of racism?
No. I am not racist, but I do discriminate based on statistics. I.e., I do not believe that any particular person will be better or worse if he would be black or white, but, given that larger proportion of black have lower socio-economic status, when socio-economic status is not visible, I will use race as a signal of status, and, hence, will discriminate. There is nothing wrong with rational discrimination, it is racism (hatred against a different race or feeling of superiority) is bad
 

fall

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Not always.

I'm not saying it is not hard to tell. It is. Which is why you can't assume, or at least I don't assume.

I acknowledge there are ladies who are adamantly racist and would be repulsed by a black cock. I feel sorry for those people. And I hope that the "no black men" ad would help men of colour not to have to deal with a person like that.

All I am saying is legally it will always be a woman's choice first.

That racism and discrimination are separate but can be combined.

Escorts discriminate against many things, myself included since I won't see women for example.

Please don't take my factual comments as comments of support for these types of ads. I believe racism to wrong. I think any lady who refuses to see someone solely because of their race is wrong. But not all escort who refuse a race are doing so for racist reason. Some are and some aren't.
Completely agree
 

Celticman

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Their body, their choice. Simple as that. No, it is not racist when it comes to such an intimate topic.
Exactly. Same as escorts with age or weight restrictions.
 

Celticman

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Let's turn this......

If you refuse to see a trans SW and let her fuck you in the ass does that make you Transphobic?

Or pay a Gay male SW to suck your cock are you a homophobe?

Ya, that's what I thought. It's sex, it's a different standard. And there isn't a law, human rights tribunal or any body that will make one human being have transactional sex with another.

It's about as close to incel behavior as it gets. Foremost SWsvare people. Deal with it.
makes sense
 

Knuckle Ball

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yes, but such choice is racist. So, is racism is OK?
I don’t think racism is ok. I also think escorts can use racist criteria to screen their clients whether anyone likes it or not. I think there is a limit to how far one can go in policing such things without at some point creating a monster.

As Jessica said, us guys can boycott such providers if we wish. Maybe at some point things will evolve to the point that it becomes socially unacceptable in the sex industry for providers to behave this way but that is not gonna happen in my lifetime.
 

basketcase

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Yes! This is a free country. As long as you are not breaking any law, you can be racist, fascist, homophobic, etc. No one should care. Furthermore, you should not be discriminated based on your believes whatever these beliefs (including discrimination at the workplace)
First part yes. Second part no. There is no charter protection for being racist.

Fact is people can make racist comments and others can condemn them for it.
 

basketcase

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No. I am not racist, but I do discriminate based on statistics....
You're not racist but...

Sorry but if you judge people on race based generalisation (from stats or not), I think the shoe fits.
 

bebe

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This very same thread was started a few months back.

The SP should have total freedom with whom she wants to see and does not want to see

Her body. The SP must have total freedom

The reasons why only matter to her and no one else.

Besides, why see a girl who has less than zero interest in you. The session would be shit
 

voldomort

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This very same thread was started a few months back.

The SP should have total freedom with whom she wants to see and does not want to see

Her body. The SP must have total freedom

The reasons why only matter to her and no one else.

Besides, why see a girl who has less than zero interest in you. The session would be shit
Racism is bad when you use the colour of a person's skin to judge unrelated factors such as intelligence or honesty. However, skin colour is a factor in sexual attraction so technically, I don't think it's racist. And plus, someone can say they don't want to have sex with you for any reason. It's not like sexual attraction is a logical thing - being racist or not racist IS a logical thing - you choose to be racist - you don't choose to not be attracted to black men - you just aren't.
 
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