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Stunning law of chaos will change your view of everything

Zoot Allures

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This is a mind-bending challenge because it is both abstract and abstruse so it lies at the outer horizon of understanding but not beyond our grasp.










It seems to me, the 2-box version is the clearest lens through which the universal law of chaos optimization is understood

Each box has a number on it and one has your number inside. The number in the box with your number on it may be your number or not as the number outside means nothing except you choose your number first. If another number is in the box you go to that numbered box and continue this pattern until you find the box with your number in it.

If there are two boxes and 2 prisoners the odds of one person picking correct box is 1 in 2; the odds of both being correct is 1/2 × 1/2 = 1/4

if they use optimization rule the odds of both being right is 1 in 2 because

  • The boxes contain their own numbers → perfect order are 1 in 2.
  • The boxes contain not their own numbers are 1 in 2

if one of the prisoners decides to choose randomly, the odds of both being right are

1/2 × 1/2 = 1/4 as you add their independent risk into the equatione



The increase arises because their method is aligned with the internal structure of the permutation, rather than ignoring it.
They don’t impose external order; they cooperate with the system’s inherent law — the law of cycles within chaos.
You could have an infinity of boxes and the odds never fall below 30%





The stunning law of permutation is that there is an inherent relational ordering within apparent chaos and exists everywhere as it is inherent in everything. Including nature and within our own perception and
behaviors.
 
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mburner

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What is really "abstract, obscure and abstruse" is trying to figure out why I had four cancellations within 24 hours on my last trip to TO, including two within 15 minutes of each other. To go on top of the two on my previous trip. Finally found a box--two in fact--with my number inside it. Phew!
 

Zoot Allures

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Stare at it, reread it, write down what you think it may be.

Once you get it a light will go off.

This is abstract, obscure and abstruse rolled into one.

God is an abstract concept , but the concept is easy.

This is an abstract concept, but very hard to grasp, so it is abstruse.

By abstract, I mean it can only be visualized as a concept. The fourth dimension can be understood in concept but is too abstruse to comprehend. It cannot be done. If aliens are from another dimension, they understand us but we will never be able to understand them.
 

Big Rig

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Stare at it, reread it, write down what you think it may be.

Once you get it a light will go off.

This is abstract, obscure and abstruse rolled into one.
 
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