Sugar Dating Experience

[Not getting younger]

I'm done with this site lol. I cancelled my date that I got out of pure luck - I actually learned that I don't like the ambiguous nature of these setup/relationships. Why do I want to audition/impress/court & there being a chance of failure? This is an acceptable outcome for me out in the real world, but not in one where I'll be paying. That aside, the pure amount of time needed on this app to find anyone moderately above a low/mid range sp is ridiculous.

This is the part that doesn’t compute for me. It just doesn’t add up. Add up the time and money spent over 6 months and……..I completely get it, if part of the allure is the thrill of the chase. And it’s pretty much guaranteed there are girls who see easy money, with little intention of hooking up.

You can put the same or similar amount of effort into finding SPs you genuinely click with. And while “off the clock” interactions might be different…..

much more genuine and real. It was actually very enjoyable and a nice change of pace from seeing SP.

Just curious if anyone has ever considered booking their ATF for an hour and $300. And just chilled. Showed up with some food to talk, maybe a massage for her? Kinda like a SB date with no strings right? Wave your hands if you’ve done that or thought it.

/wave

But will add, you might want to make sure it’s “genuine” …I can almost see the lightbulbs going off….

 

[FunInToronto2023]

This is the part that doesn’t compute for me. It just doesn’t add up. Add up the time and money spent over 6 months and……..I completely get it, if part of the allure is the thrill of the chase. And it’s pretty much guaranteed there are girls who see easy money, with little intention of hooking up.

You can put the same or similar amount of effort into finding SPs you genuinely click with. And while “off the clock” interactions might be different…..



Just curious if anyone has ever considered booking their ATF for an hour and $300. And just chilled. Showed up with some food to talk, maybe a massage for her? Kinda like a SB date with no strings right? Wave your hands if you’ve done that or thought it.

/wave

But will add, you might want to make sure it’s “genuine” …I can almost see the lightbulbs going off….

No haven't done that before, it sounds like when a SB asks for you to pay to just meet for coffee, which I've never done before.

 

[Not getting younger]

No haven't done that before, it sounds like when a SB asks for you to pay to just meet for coffee, which I've never done before.

your loss.
I can bet my success rate of 100% trumps yours.

Again, “to each their own”. Me, I put the time and effort into finding SPs I genuinely click with. And while we don’t and I wouldn’t go on a formal date per se. There are other ways…

And even your multitude of freebies. What’s a decent hotel room cost these days…….

 

[Not getting younger]

Sorry to jump in on a semi-private exchange but I have to ask, what do you mean by your 'success rate of 100%'? What success are you talking about? If it's just an SP agreeing to a meeting where you don't want sex...I'm sure everyone would have a 100% success rate with that.

If you are talking about developing a genuine relationship, or even friendship, with an SP...while I've read stories on here about guys who claim to have had them, they almost always end poorly.

Maybe I'm missing something but it seems like you are trying to compare apples to oranges.

*Before posting this I read up and maybe I've figured it out. Are you talking about the money and time invested on sites like SA vs. just spending money to go and see an SP? If so, I can see your point, sort of. The difference, I think, is like fishing vs. buying a piece of salmon at the store. (Feel free to substitute for a different fish. )

No “100%” rate of hooking up..

As for the last and “fishing”. That’s what I mean by I get it, if part or a lot of the allure is “The thrill of the chase”..

With respect to “ending poorly”. Well that to depends. If you keep it “real” and never lose sight of some facts…..all I’m saying is that many seem to think “genuinely clicking” with SPs is a fantasy. Nope, just have to put the time and effort finding them, no differently then SBs or stumble on one by accident….

 

[FunInToronto2023]

your loss.
I can bet my success rate of 100% trumps yours.

Again, “to each their own”. Me, I put the time and effort into finding SPs I genuinely click with. And while we don’t and I wouldn’t go on a formal date per se. There are other ways…

And even your multitude of freebies. What’s a decent hotel room cost these days…….

I don't understand what you mean about it being my loss and what "I can bet my success rate of 100% trumps yours". I don't see any of this as some sort of competition, I just want everyone to be happy.


Yes I've had loads of freebies and sometimes we just hook up in the car or somewhere discreet.

Hotels where I've had them come over normally run in the 600-800/night range per night and often get room service as well so that the girl feels special.

 

[Not getting younger]

I think that is the allure. If you are still young looking, as @FunInToronto2023 claims to be, you can just go out and try to pick up the mid 20's smoke-shows and get 'it' for free. Most of the other guys have accepted the fact that if you still want to hook up with young, attractive women, we need to pay for the privilege.

IMO, SP vs. SB is like fishing at a stocked trout farm vs. trolling in a lake. I don't have the time to go fishing when the outcome is uncertain but I can certainly understand the desire. The other variables are less easily defined. Eg, the claim that you get multiple hours at a discount vs. the rate that an SP charges. While undoubtedly true it is a lot less clear when you account for the time you spent searching and chatting with all the potential SB's.

Anyway, thanks for answering my question.

Loving the fishing analogies. Funny, but apt.

 

[Leimonis]

This is the part that doesn’t compute for me. It just doesn’t add up. Add up the time and money spent over 6 months and……..I completely get it, if part of the allure is the thrill of the chase. And it’s pretty much guaranteed there are girls who see easy money, with little intention of hooking up.

You can put the same or similar amount of effort into finding SPs you genuinely click with. And while “off the clock” interactions might be different…..



Just curious if anyone has ever considered booking their ATF for an hour and $300. And just chilled. Showed up with some food to talk, maybe a massage for her? Kinda like a SB date with no strings right? Wave your hands if you’ve done that or thought it.

/wave

But will add, you might want to make sure it’s “genuine” …I can almost see the lightbulbs going off….

Would you agree that there is a difference between seeing an sp and seeing a semi-civvy who bangs one or two daddies parallel to you but has a legitimate job or school? I’ve done both more times than I can remember and to me there is a difference worth pursuing

 

[Tony2000]

Again, I think it depends what you are looking for. I have had SB arrangements for more than a year. I really enjoyed getting to know them and having a great connection.
In my opinion, you don't get that with an SP.
Yes, it can be a pain in the butt going through the process on Seeking but it's worth it if you find someone with whom you click.
To each his own of course.

 

[xix]

 

[Tony2000]

This video was tl:dr (or tl:dw as the case may be). But I get the idea that there are a lot of men on apps like Tinder and this reduces the odds of finding someone.
Seeking used to claim that there were more women than men on the site .... and thus the odds are better. Not sure if that's the case.

 

[Leimonis]

Seeking used to claim that there were more women than men on the site .... and thus the odds are better. Not sure if that's the case.

It most definitely is the case.

also consider that major agencies now don’t guarantee or even promise GFE services.
so the times where you could just spontaneously and confidently book a new SP are officially gone.

Now SD/SB route makes even more sense than ever. Unless one is into grandma style “small kisses” and CBJ.

 

[Tony2000]

It most definitely is the case.

also consider that major agencies now don’t guarantee or even promise GFE services.
so the times where you could just spontaneously and confidently book a new SP are officially gone.

Now SD/SB route makes even more sense than ever. Unless one is into grandma style “small kisses” and CBJ.

Yup. Met with a new SB last night. The kissing, BJ and sex were all spectacular.
However, as I have said before it's not just about the sex .... haha. I really enjoyed having dinner with her and sharing some intellectual conversation and some laughs.
We are already planning our next meeting.

 

[Tony2000]

Yup. Met with a new SB last night. The kissing, BJ and sex were all spectacular.
However, as I have said before it's not just about the sex .... haha. I really enjoyed having dinner with her and sharing some intellectual conversation and some laughs.
We are already planning our next meeting.

She's a 20-year-old student. Smoking body and pretty face. Overall 8 out of 10.

 

[Leimonis]

She's a 20-year-old student. Smoking body and pretty face. Overall 8 out of 10.

2x20 > 1x40

 

[rocco_s]

What's the goinf rate for ppm. I am finding 500 is the lowest I am getting for decent sbs. A few do overnights for 700 but you have to pay for dinner. I got a few that were open to extreme bdsm for 500. Usually spend 5 to 6 hrs.

 

[Traineeslavemark]

What's the goinf rate for ppm. I am finding 500 is the lowest I am getting for decent sbs. A few do overnights for 700 but you have to pay for dinner. I got a few that were open to extreme bdsm for 500. Usually spend 5 to 6 hrs.

I’m finding girls in the $300 to $400 range. One sb I met on Saturday wants me to pay for the date, and then only $100 or $200 every now and again. I have her $100 Saturday, and while it was supposed to be a get to know you evening, there was lots of drinking, kissing, and a quick bbbj while waiting for the ride home.
Seeing her again on Friday - motel date this time.

 

[rocco_s]

I’m finding girls in the $300 to $400 range. One sb I met on Saturday wants me to pay for the date, and then only $100 or $200 every now and again. I have her $100 Saturday, and while it was supposed to be a get to know you evening, there was lots of drinking, kissing, and a quick bbbj while waiting for the ride home.
Seeing her again on Friday - motel date this time.

In terms if looks would you say ddg and above average. I was getting ddg girls pre covid for 300 or 400 for half a day.

Finding these girls now are demanding 800 or more.

 

[art van dele]

In terms if looks would you say ddg and above average. I was getting ddg girls pre covid for 300 or 400 for half a day.

Finding these girls now are demanding 800 or more.

Not anymore, the quality of the SBs have gone way down even compared to 2020-21 and the asking allowances way up. You can hardly find anyone under 500 and the better looking ones 700-1200
PS. I wanna know where some of the guys on terb find this ddg 20 year olds because I can’t seem to find them on SA anymore.

 

[Traineeslavemark]

In terms if looks would you say ddg and above average. I was getting ddg girls pre covid for 300 or 400 for half a day.

Finding these girls now are demanding 800 or more.

I would say girls who are a solid 7.
there is one who I am chatting with who is ddg. She is asking $400 for overnight.

 

[shack]

She is asking $400 for overnight.

She offered her honour.
So, honour her offer.
All night long you can be on her and off her.