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SchlongConery

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It’s not an easy question 😂
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but in all seriousness I’d say that the SBs honorarium should come to a full stop at a price of a duo ie about $700 or so in todays dollars.
Two women cannot be worth less than one.

Pllease let's stop with this "honorarium" bs. First off, it is not even accurate.

Definition: "a payment given for professional services that are rendered nominally without charge." NOMINAL Payment.


I'd look at it differently.

First I say that I have an interest in either monthly or longer ongoing support in furtherance of a specific goal or lifestyle if we have authentic chemistry. But that I am also comfortable keeping it casual and uncomplicated by giving her a gift of some money to do whatever she thinks is best for her to use as she wants. I tend to make the offer to set the benchmark before she does. I'll say something like; "I'm thinking if we hang out for the afternoon or evening, maybe dinner and some fun afterward, I am comfortable and more than happy to "help you out" with say $400-500. But if we are just getting together for a couple hours or less, then I'm thinking I'd still want to make it $250-300 to make it worth your time to spedn the time even though we're having fun"

This sets a flexible scale of cost framework and limits expectations. But is not being cheap. And if she wants to be able to save face or feel special, she or you can say or agree to the upper end of those numbers. You've also not made her have to do the hourly math. Nor made her feel like an hourly hooker.

If she comes back with "Well my OTHER or PREVIOUS relationships/SD's paid me ten thousand or whatever, then say, "I understand and am happy for you. There are some guys that that amount is NOTHING to them... chump change. They can afford to buy a dozen girls. But, that's not me. First off, no matter how hot anyone is, it's simply not worth more than that for me to hang out with anyone for more. And I want to be able to affford and not be worried about long term because I am worried about the money and disapppointing you or looking for someone else that is more affordable. Even thuough there are lots of girls who are more than happy with less, and delusional dreamers thinking they are going to be flown to Dubia and PAris on private jets, I like YOU and would like to make it work for both of us. But if it doesn't work for you or make you happy, I understand and I know you'll find someone else who will promise the world.. but be careful... I've heard those guys are big talk and not so much on following through "

Anyways, that approach worked for me. And it was honest.

DON'T put yourself out there as a Whale if you are not!
 

Leimonis

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REPORT and block. You may be saving some other lonely hard working simp from getting conned out of his life savings.
Reporting raises your chances of being banned. I have zero trust in SA management and as far as I am concerned it’s a wolf eats wolf environment where everyone is left to fend for themselves.
if some simp gets conned then the worst that can happen is he won’t be competing for the same SBs as me 🤷‍♀️
 

SchlongConery

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Reporting raises your chances of being banned. I have zero trust in SA management and as far as I am concerned it’s a wolf eats wolf environment where everyone is left to fend for themselves.
if some simp gets conned then the worst that can happen is he won’t be competing for the same SBs as me 🤷‍♀️

🤔 Hmmmmm... good point! I agree and retract my previous advice!
 
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dchoye

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Why does reporting raise your chance of being banned ?
Customer service and wanted to get more info about the communication that I reported
If there are multiple complaints about one user then the fraudster going to found, and dealt with
Not reporting just going let the fraudster get away and appear with another profile with different photos ready to be a nuisance to you again
There are plenty of genuine SBs to go around for every one.
 

Leimonis

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Why does reporting raise your chance of being banned ?
Customer service and wanted to get more info about the communication that I reported
If there are multiple complaints about one user then the fraudster going to found, and dealt with
Not reporting just going let the fraudster get away and appear with another profile with different photos ready to be a nuisance to you again
There are plenty of genuine SBs to go around for every one.
If you trust their customer service go ahead and report.
I trust them about as much as I would trust hamas if I lived in gaza.
Reddit is full of stories of banned guys who struggle to get back. And when they ban everything is burned and need to be changed: IP, devices, credit cards.
 
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Jicama

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Men are getting wise to the massive number of FB groups created by women under the context of "safety and protecting each other"...where they post men's pics and either ask if anyone has red flags about them...or slander the posted men for whatever reason....usually cuz the women have been ghosted, or they got banged then ghosted etc. These women are referred to as the "Un-picked" and are generally bitter. Men are starting to realize dating apps are stacked against them on multiple levels, and since they are the majority who pay for the subscriptions....
It's not surprising. These sites/apps are now old enough where they need sustainable profit and not just growth. They depend on guys for paying fees and they depend on women to bring guys in.

Guys who have a lot of success don't generate much revenue. Women have the illusion of choice, but it comes at the cost of longer term relationships and/or fuckboys and they're realizing it's not what they want.

The guys who are responsible for the vast majority of revenue usually have much less success and they can only be strung along for so long with bots before they just give up. So the app only ends up working for a small group of men who are getting lots of matches and a slightly larger group of women - neither of whom pay fees!
 

GeeBee

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It's not surprising. These sites/apps are now old enough where they need sustainable profit and not just growth. They depend on guys for paying fees and they depend on women to bring guys in.

Guys who have a lot of success don't generate much revenue. Women have the illusion of choice, but it comes at the cost of longer term relationships and/or fuckboys and they're realizing it's not what they want.

The guys who are responsible for the vast majority of revenue usually have much less success and they can only be strung along for so long with bots before they just give up. So the app only ends up working for a small group of men who are getting lots of matches and a slightly larger group of women - neither of whom pay fees!
Exactly this.

These sites are not designed to give you success at finding a Sugar Baby, that is not their business model. The girls are the product and can join for free (no cost to the vendor for it’s inventory, whether all the girls are real or not doesn’t really matter ) and the guys pay to be there (paying customers who browse the shelves for an entry fee) The trick is to keep you coming back month after month.

Their money is made from giving the illusion of possibilities and providing just enough to keep the paying customers coming back. If you pay for a month and find a girl to see for the next year they really aren’t making much. But if you pay for a year and maybe get a couple of dates that give you that little sniff of success?? Ding Ding Ding!! You are the perfect customer. Money in their bank.
 

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One of my friends has had a Coton de Tulear

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dog for thirty years. It's not the same dog, he just gets a new one whenever the old one dies. He gets more pussy with that dog than any guy on this board, with the possible exception of Ceiling Cat, (if you believe his stats). He swears that this dog breed is irresistible to Jewish divorcees.
 

Jicama

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Exactly this.

These sites are not designed to give you success at finding a Sugar Baby, that is not their business model. The girls are the product and can join for free (no cost to the vendor for it’s inventory, whether all the girls are real or not doesn’t really matter ) and the guys pay to be there (paying customers who browse the shelves for an entry fee) The trick is to keep you coming back month after month.

Their money is made from giving the illusion of possibilities and providing just enough to keep the paying customers coming back. If you pay for a month and find a girl to see for the next year they really aren’t making much. But if you pay for a year and maybe get a couple of dates that give you that little sniff of success?? Ding Ding Ding!! You are the perfect customer. Money in their bank.
That's just it - the bar is so, so low and they're still having trouble clearing it. To be fair, it's not all the platform's fault - the entire social pairing model breaks down when you have unlimited "choice" for some and unlimited rejection for many. It's a dynamic that can be quite unhealthy for the majority of both men and women.
 

Leimonis

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the entire social pairing model breaks down when you have unlimited "choice" for some and unlimited rejection for many. It's a dynamic that can be quite unhealthy for the majority of both men and women.
Bill maher in his most recent episode referred to data showing that about 60% on men under 30 identify as single while only about 30% of women under 30 do. He said “I didn’t know that there’s so many lesbians” but jokes aside it has got to be something else.
I believe that it’s mostly because men over 30 (not captured by the data) are dating women under 30. Nothing unhealthy about that really and gives us all hope :)
Also maybe because small segment of “alpha” males date multiple women and all women who “know their worth” compete for those same men. That does seem a bit unhealthy. But like Louis ck said: if you feel bad for unfuckable people you can go ahead and fuck them.
 

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Bill maher in his most recent episode referred to data showing that about 60% on men under 30 identify as single while only about 30% of women under 30 do. He said “I didn’t know that there’s so many lesbians” but jokes aside it has got to be something else.
I believe that it’s mostly because men over 30 (not captured by the data) are dating women under 30. Nothing unhealthy about that really and gives us all hope :)
Also maybe because small segment of “alpha” males date multiple women and all women who “know their worth” compete for those same men. That does seem a bit unhealthy. But like Louis ck said: if you feel bad for unfuckable people you can go ahead and fuck them.
I mean that should make sense, many (or most?) women will typically date a guy at least 2-3 year older than them. So not surprising that a lot of 26-30 year old women might be dating 30-35 year old men. In my friends circle, the split is half and half. Half the guys are with women their age and the other half are with women 2-5 years younger.
 
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GeeBee

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Bill maher in his most recent episode referred to data showing that about 60% on men under 30 identify as single while only about 30% of women under 30 do. He said “I didn’t know that there’s so many lesbians” but jokes aside it has got to be something else.
I believe that it’s mostly because men over 30 (not captured by the data) are dating women under 30. Nothing unhealthy about that really and gives us all hope :)
Also maybe because small segment of “alpha” males date multiple women and all women who “know their worth” compete for those same men. That does seem a bit unhealthy. But like Louis ck said: if you feel bad for unfuckable people you can go ahead and fuck them.
LOL Bill Maher would know. I vividly remember him getting photographed coming out of nightclubs with some of LA’s finest hookers. He also had a huge reputation for dating much younger women (SB’s ? who can tell) I understand he’s settled into a LTR several years ago but he definitely knows how the stats he’s quoting play out.
 
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SchlongConery

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LOL Bill Maher would know. I vividly remember him getting photographed coming out of nightclubs with some of LA’s finest hookers. He also had a huge reputation for dating much younger women (SB’s ? who can tell) I understand he’s settled into a LTR several years ago but he definitely knows how the stats he’s quoting play out.
 
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