Sugar Dating Experience

[Caspertheghost]

I've just completed my 2nd "long term" arrangement from SA. First being 10 months and the last one was 8.

Few things I learned -

Girl1: You want genuine attraction. Best girls are the ones in their mid 20s at the end of their "slutty days". This girl seemed to admire me a lot, and by the time our arrangement ended, I could see a lot of improvement in how she selected friends, her thinking, etc. She was a bit on the pricey side. But 200% worth it. Responsible, never ghosted even once. We did just about everything (travel, events, mini-trips, dinners, coffees, sex was amazing). After we broke up she wanted a clean break, which is always nice. I've seen her once since and we both agreed not to re-engage. Experiences with this girl were really well balanced with sex/activities. I could write a book about the fun. Will be hard to replicate, but we'll see.

Girl2: This girl was in her early 20s. Also respectful, never ghosted, always presented herself very well. In terms of ppm this girl cost almost nothing. I'm not going to reveal what I paid her in ppm because, frankly, none of you will believe it. But like most arrangements, when the menial amt I was paying her stopped, shortly after the dates ceased as well. One thing about this girl is that the sex was something else entirely (from the first girl). We would go at it for over an hour I could see she really soaked up the experience each and every time.

Moving forward, not too sure if I'll do another one or not. I've done quite a bit of vanilla dating as well, and what I've observed is that the time + money you spend on finding a vanilla girlfriend is insane compared to the menial $ you pay in ppm to skip all of that bs. The price of a dinner for two + ubers, is pretty much what the ppm winds up costing.

As for SB vs. Escorts. I've found that the Escorts I've connected with are more mature than the SBs. They're more honest and they are fulfilling a goal or duty. Wheres the SBs - not just the long term ones, but all the ONS ones I fucked - were mostly confused and "figuring out life" and the money they collected from me went to pay for silly stuff like tuition, credit card payments, etc.

Tuition ain’t silly.

 

[Leimonis]

As for SB vs. Escorts. I've found that the Escorts I've connected with are more mature than the SBs. They're more honest and they are fulfilling a goal or duty. Wheres the SBs - not just the long term ones, but all the ONS ones I fucked - were mostly confused and "figuring out life" and the money they collected from me went to pay for silly stuff like tuition, credit card payments, etc.

I found that confusion as well as honesty or lack thereof are evenly and generously spread between both categories.
Just as childhood traumas and history of sex abuse are. As one of my most mature SBs said: everybody had an uncle.

 

[GeeBee]

Whew, this once useful thread is back on track Lets keep it relevant and civil shall we?

 

[Sugarsweet905]

Tuition ain’t silly.

It is if you don't graduate.

 

[brian4hartley]

It is if you don't graduate.

A lot of these girls go to school and then find out they can just bar-hop to another country and do another degree, or even just stick around and do another degree on top of the previous in the same city, because after all, "bills are paid by my SD". Girl1 was moving toward this, actually. And even Girl2 was working full time and getting her ppm... and she lived at home. There was plenty of money to go around.

 

[Leimonis]

It is if you don't graduate.

Or if you graduate with a useless liberal arts degree which so many of them seem to do

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[lomotil]

Canadian “Enjo Kosai” threads

 

[Hipjdog]

I’m talking to this one girl who seems great but leans towards platonic. In your experience, does this hold true 100 percent of the time or are the girls willing to adjust based on the guy?

 

[Leimonis]

I’m talking to this one girl who seems great but leans towards platonic. In your experience, does this hold true 100 percent of the time or are the girls willing to adjust based on the guy?

I usually tell them that I know a great site for platonic called Christian Mingle

 

[Hipjdog]

I usually tell them that I know a great site for platonic called Christian Mingle

Ha I was thinking the same thing with literally that reference.

 

[Patron]

I found that confusion as well as honesty or lack thereof are evenly and generously spread between both categories.
Just as childhood traumas and history of sex abuse are. As one of my most mature SBs said: everybody had an uncle.

Thank you for that.

Some reader of this thread will be sent to a corporate management sensitivity training class.

He can volunteer while the female subordinate role plays the intern who comes to him about feeling sexually harassed mainly due to past trauma in her life.

And he can say, Well, sweetheart, every girl in the world had that uncle. Most of them moved on.

 

[Sugarsweet905]

I usually tell them that I know a great site for platonic called Christian Mingle

I have found hookups on Christian Mingle as well. However, she did make me wear my priest robe.

 

[RobI]

An angry scammer

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You should have told "her" she doesn't deserve to clean your air ducts

(some people will get this joke)

 

[RobI]

I have found hookups on Christian Mingle as well. However, she did make me wear my priest robe.

She has "Father" issues?

 

[ABDACOM]

newbie question here....but can someone walk me through the process of booking a data with a SB? Do you offer PPM right away and meet up like with an escort? or do you pick her up at her place -> dinner -> her place? or do you actually have to take her on shopping trips first lol?

My hesitation with SBs is that 1) I don't have my own car (never needed it in Toronto); and 2) don't know what to do with the ambivalence of what the cash is for? like what if she just takes off after dinner or it's 1SOG only.

 

[Hipjdog]

newbie question here....but can someone walk me through the process of booking a data with a SB? Do you offer PPM right away and meet up like with an escort? or do you pick her up at her place -> dinner -> her place? or do you actually have to take her on shopping trips first lol?

My hesitation with SBs is that 1) I don't have my own car (never needed it in Toronto); and 2) don't know what to do with the ambivalence of what the cash is for? like what if she just takes off after dinner or it's 1SOG only.

Hi there,

I'll walk you through how things work, at least from my experience.

Start with a few casual messages on SA (or whichever one you're using). Once you have a bit of rapport established, ask if she'd like to
move to Telegram/texting/etc. This way you can speak more candidly without being flagged by the site. Express to her that you're looking
for "intimacy" (this is code for having sex without sounding like a creep) or 'friends with benefits'. Most girls on these sites understand what's
up and know what you want. Avoid any girls who list 'platonic'. Ask her to send you a picture of something specific (like flashing the peace sign
or thumbs up) so you know that it's indeed the girl from the site and not a bot.

Some girls will be ok with coming right over to your place (or hotel) but most of the time you're going to have a 'meet and greet' where you grab
a drink or food at a bar. You won't be picking her up at her place as she is going to want to keep that part of her life separate. Pick a place close to your residence so if things go well you can just walk back or a quick Uber. Have some light chit chat and get to know each other. This is where you can offer the PPM if you haven't already talked about it. Acknowledge that it's an awkward conversation.
Say something like 'getting along well together is important to me, as well as physical intimacy'. Generally the girls know what's up. Pay for the food/drinks.

If she comes back to your place it's probably game on. There's no time limit here, so in terms of SOG it's just whatever the two of you want. The girls typically
don't want to feel like an escort so I usually just drop the envelope into her bag/purse while we're talking about something else. Make it feel natural and not weird.
Joke about it if you want. Treat her well.

Escorts are straight forward, but the sugaring world is much more nebulas, where the 2 people mostly make their own rules. It can be frustrating but if you
find a good situation it's way better than seeing SP's. Good luck!

 

[GeeBee]

Hi there,

I'll walk you through how things work, at least from my experience.

Start with a few casual messages on SA (or whichever one you're using). Once you have a bit of rapport established, ask if she'd like to
move to Telegram/texting/etc. This way you can speak more candidly without being flagged by the site. Express to her that you're looking
for "intimacy" (this is code for having sex without sounding like a creep) or 'friends with benefits'. Most girls on these sites understand what's
up and know what you want. Avoid any girls who list 'platonic'. Ask her to send you a picture of something specific (like flashing the peace sign
or thumbs up) so you know that it's indeed the girl from the site and not a bot.

Some girls will be ok with coming right over to your place (or hotel) but most of the time you're going to have a 'meet and greet' where you grab
a drink or food at a bar. You won't be picking her up at her place as she is going to want to keep that part of her life separate. Pick a place close to your residence so if things go well you can just walk back or a quick Uber. Have some light chit chat and get to know each other. This is where you can offer the PPM if you haven't already talked about it. Acknowledge that it's an awkward conversation.
Say something like 'getting along well together is important to me, as well as physical intimacy'. Generally the girls know what's up. Pay for the food/drinks.

If she comes back to your place it's probably game on. There's no time limit here, so in terms of SOG it's just whatever the two of you want. The girls typically
don't want to feel like an escort so I usually just drop the envelope into her bag/purse while we're talking about something else. Make it feel natural and not weird.
Joke about it if you want. Treat her well.

Escorts are straight forward, but the sugaring world is much more nebulas, where the 2 people mostly make their own rules. It can be frustrating but if you
find a good situation it's way better than seeing SP's. Good luck!

This is a good guide, and pretty much the template that has worked for me too.

Also can't stress enough how important it is to be a gentleman, and do not treat her like an escort when you’re first communicating. Sounding like a horny jerk is the fastest way to end the conversation. If she’s attractive she will be getting a shit load of messages and you will stand out by being polite, and having an actual tailored opening note to her. “Hey baby wanna hook up?” is not gonna cut it.

I’ll also add that a second date for sex, not right to it after a drink, is also pretty common. Use the M&G to get the vibe of each other, agree on the details, and then set up a date for fun.

 

[ABDACOM]

Hi there,

I'll walk you through how things work, at least from my experience.

Start with a few casual messages on SA (or whichever one you're using). Once you have a bit of rapport established, ask if she'd like to
move to Telegram/texting/etc. This way you can speak more candidly without being flagged by the site. Express to her that you're looking
for "intimacy" (this is code for having sex without sounding like a creep) or 'friends with benefits'. Most girls on these sites understand what's
up and know what you want. Avoid any girls who list 'platonic'. Ask her to send you a picture of something specific (like flashing the peace sign
or thumbs up) so you know that it's indeed the girl from the site and not a bot.

Some girls will be ok with coming right over to your place (or hotel) but most of the time you're going to have a 'meet and greet' where you grab
a drink or food at a bar. You won't be picking her up at her place as she is going to want to keep that part of her life separate. Pick a place close to your residence so if things go well you can just walk back or a quick Uber. Have some light chit chat and get to know each other. This is where you can offer the PPM if you haven't already talked about it. Acknowledge that it's an awkward conversation.
Say something like 'getting along well together is important to me, as well as physical intimacy'. Generally the girls know what's up. Pay for the food/drinks.

If she comes back to your place it's probably game on. There's no time limit here, so in terms of SOG it's just whatever the two of you want. The girls typically
don't want to feel like an escort so I usually just drop the envelope into her bag/purse while we're talking about something else. Make it feel natural and not weird.
Joke about it if you want. Treat her well.

Escorts are straight forward, but the sugaring world is much more nebulas, where the 2 people mostly make their own rules. It can be frustrating but if you
find a good situation it's way better than seeing SP's. Good luck!

This is awesome
Thank you so much! Can I also ask, what does a typical opening message look like? I know it needs to be polite and stuff, but some time ago I tried everything from a simple hi, to interesting questions, to customized messages (always polite), and most of the time it would take either forever to hear back, were flaky, or unresponsive.

Also, any tips on how to build a good profile? Politeness aside, should it be similar to a real dating profile? How important is the networth/income section etc?

 

[Hipjdog]

This is awesome
Thank you so much! Can I also ask, what does a typical opening message look like? I know it needs to be polite and stuff, but some time ago I tried everything from a simple hi, to interesting questions, to customized messages (always polite), and most of the time it would take either forever to hear back, were flaky, or unresponsive.

Also, any tips on how to build a good profile? Politeness aside, should it be similar to a real dating profile? How important is the networth/income section etc?

Sure, no problem.

In my experience, keep the first message brief, something like: "Hi, Sara! I'm Jason. I see you like concerts; have you been to any shows this summer?"
Just something non-sexual to get the conversation started. Don't just write, "Hi". Make it personal to them. There will be some girls who just don't
respond and that's ok: new girls join the site everyday.

In terms of your profile, just make it similar to a dating profile. Keep it relatively brief, but list some of your interests. Indicate generosity and a desire to help
financially. Make sure your pictures aren't too "douchy"...just use regular pictures.

There are some girls on the site who will take a look at the net worth you listed and decide then and there whether to see you, but that's in the minority.
Most girls don't care so long as they get their financial help, you treat them well and you're well-groomed.

Just as an aside, don't get hung up on one girl. Set up a number of dates so if one flakes, it's no big deal. Don't assume these girls are going home with you
until they do (and some will, don't worry). You can usually get a sense of who are flakes and who will show up on time, ready to go.

 

[ABDACOM]

Sure, no problem.

In my experience, keep the first message brief, something like: "Hi, Sara! I'm Jason. I see you like concerts; have you been to any shows this summer?"
Just something non-sexual to get the conversation started. Don't just write, "Hi". Make it personal to them. There will be some girls who just don't
respond and that's ok: new girls join the site everyday.

In terms of your profile, just make it similar to a dating profile. Keep it relatively brief, but list some of your interests. Indicate generosity and a desire to help
financially. Make sure your pictures aren't too "douchy"...just use regular pictures.

There are some girls on the site who will take a look at the net worth you listed and decide then and there whether to see you, but that's in the minority.
Most girls don't care so long as they get their financial help, you treat them well and you're well-groomed.

Just as an aside, don't get hung up on one girl. Set up a number of dates so if one flakes, it's no big deal. Don't assume these girls are going home with you
until they do (and some will, don't worry). You can usually get a sense of who are flakes and who will show up on time, ready to go.

Thanks again. Best guide I've read on this board.