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I've been doing the SA experience for a couple of months. (paid for 1 month, have a dozen good girls to see now). But none of them can give a decent BJ! I don't get it. These girls are down to fuck, real, normal women who just cant afford rent, or want some mad money to self indulge a little. But even with a little direction which they seem to enjoy, the BJ's suck!
In the primeval era, scarce were the moments when the caveman stumbled upon a rare gem. The young man, in his primal wisdom, hailed mediocrity as if it were the pinnacle of achievement—a celebration of the utterly ordinary. For in a world where finding a decent can of beans was an accomplishment, and where politeness often masked a lack of alternatives, the bar for praise was set low, dancing in tandem with the flickering firelight of limited choices. Now you pay the price.
 
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I'd say the re-brand for Seeking is just putting lipstick on a pig. In some ways it's not fair for new girls joining that they'll experience exotic adventures.
Not that they won't but most of us can't do that if we're married. And if not married, most of us will do this thing called "Actual Dating"
Sir, this is an escort review board, if we did "Actual Dating" we wouldn't be here :D

Pretty sure this encapsulates majority of people sugaring nowadays.

Makes it easier for us that don't penny pinch to see girls since the bar is set so low from other interactions.
Yes, I've traded links with some guys and they've talked to some of these girls, and they say there are guys who basically expect them to be LeoList hookers, like asking if they can come in their ass in the first conversation :(

That's what you're competing with, like if you actually talk to them like a girl from a bar or the gym, you're probably going to end up paying less. Mind you, yes, if some girl is asking for $1000 first time, definitely tell them, thanks and good luck :)
 

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I've been doing the SA experience for a couple of months. (paid for 1 month, have a dozen good girls to see now). But none of them can give a decent BJ! I don't get it. These girls are down to fuck, real, normal women who just cant afford rent, or want some mad money to self indulge a little. But even with a little direction which they seem to enjoy, the BJ's suck!
Aren't BJs supported to suck? (kidding, I'll show myself out now...)

The funny thing is, there are a lot of girls (one reason I avoid the 18/19yo) that haven't had a dozen boyfriends, just like we got to learn how DATY and not cum in 3 pumps, they have to learn how to do a solid bj - the good thing is you can teach them how to do it just the way YOU like it :)
 
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Lol I'm not married so I don't have that problem. Is $1000 a lot over a couple of months? The 5 girls I didn't fuck totaled maybe $400? Semi-fancy lunch and dinners. I didn't mind, all of them bought me coffee or desert as not to be rude. The first girl I fucked we went on 6 dates before we called it quits. Current girl now we are onto week 4 and she's been cool. She enjoys nights in or going straight home to fuck after a dinner.

Based on your SD experience, what is the arrangement?
That's good, yes that's like my experience pre-pandemic, usually going for dinner or drinks at a decent place (not the Keg, but maybe Milestones or State and Main), sometimes we'd get dessert for takeout, and then some fun at my place afterwards. Make them feel like it's a date out but be sensible with your money. Some girls now are definitely up for the straight PPM, you cover their Uber (or they drive) and it's a straigfh hook-up.
 

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I think and believe there is ( as there was in the physical past) now in the present is a bit of leg work to find lady of the hour in a different way.

Historical fact?

Hear me out. Let's take the 70's. The only way you can find SP back then is word of mouth or Classifieds in the newspapers. Simple statement.
Back then you had to physically go and see for yourself.
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That's a good way of looking at it. Thanks. I was surprised when I realized SnapChat (I thought it had come and gone sometime in the mid-2010s) is what a lot of younger sugar babies use now.
 

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OK I have a question - if you use Hinge don't you have your entire face and life for everyone to see?
If you're married you can't exactly go on an actual dating app otherwise I'd for sure do the same - I actually started the horrible behaviour by joining Tinder and dated so many girls it was crazy. One of them called me out for being married after we hooked up and I swear she actually knew it ahead of time. Then another called me out after our first date and I decided I couldn't risk it anymore.

If you're doing that on Hinge and spending that amount of money, you can do the same on a SD site and have a much higher batting average. But at the same time if you're having a great time and the girls are having a great time - then that's excellent and it's all that matters!
I'd think the advantage of hinge would be access to not yet converted SBs because seeking has a fairly small number of potentials
I admit I have zero experience with civilian apps
has anyone been able to make it work??
 

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That's a good way of looking at it. Thanks. I was surprised when I realized SnapChat (I thought it had come and gone sometime in the mid-2010s) is what a lot of younger sugar babies use now.
Yes my young co worker mentioned SnapChat. That is how he got his weed. So I wouldn't be surprised if you can get something else.;)
 
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Telegram people near me 2023 11 12 8:30pm.
I don't bother contacting people.
 

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That's good, yes that's like my experience pre-pandemic, usually going for dinner or drinks at a decent place (not the Keg, but maybe Milestones or State and Main), sometimes we'd get dessert for takeout, and then some fun at my place afterwards. Make them feel like it's a date out but be sensible with your money. Some girls now are definitely up for the straight PPM, you cover their Uber (or they drive) and it's a straigfh hook-up.
Reviews?

Sugar daddy's have totally changed over the last couple of years. In the middle class sugar daddy seems to disappear.

1 time girls didn't want to expose themselves too constant clients And it was a sort of a hybrid between gf with a touch of sp.

Now It's mostly variations on a sps.. Primarily looking for men who will overpay or Want platonic.
But I imagine it has all variations As it changes by the person Despite the schools for sugar babies on line..
 
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just want to share my experience, dont want to bother reading this whole thread...

I been using secret benefits with success, im a straight shooter, I send one sentence to every pretty verified member there "HOW MUCH FOR SEX?", and most of the time you will get ignored, or they will ask for your pic and sometimes they will give u their Pay per meet price... Lowest was 150$ PSE experience, special service, young curvy white student.. highest was $1500... and avg is asking price $300... I have met 5 ladies in the past 1.5 years and its been great alternative to find the pretty one as you can see their face pic and videos of themselves..
 

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I saw this looked like all scams?
Yes many are the Andrew Tate scams. Andrew has about 30-40 girls working for him just to take money from guys online At least that's how At least that's how hedescribe it describe it. He recognize that you get book 20 or 30 girls working for you
 

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just want to share my experience, dont want to bother reading this whole thread...

I been using secret benefits with success, im a straight shooter, I send one sentence to every pretty verified member there "HOW MUCH FOR SEX?", and most of the time you will get ignored, or they will ask for your pic and sometimes they will give u their Pay per meet price... Lowest was 150$ PSE experience, special service, young curvy white student.. highest was $1500... and avg is asking price $300... I have met 5 ladies in the past 1.5 years and its been great alternative to find the pretty one as you can see their face pic and videos of themselves..
How many ladies have you sent that message to and have that success rate ?
 

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From my exchange today:

The girl:
In my successful arrangements, we started by doing drinks and dinner as our first meet and then I was compensated 500$ as a gift of good faith. To be fair, it takes far more effort for a woman to get ready and put in that effort, and when I have not asked for any compensation, I have been severely disappointed in the past 😅 then after the first date if we like eachother the second meet we could go back to yours, but I like to build naturally and I also have to look out for my safety if you know what I mean?

Me:
I think what you mean is: if I don’t hear back from you after the first date I’m out $500 and if you don’t hear from me after the first date you’re out some makeup?
You mean $750 it's another $100 for a bottle of wine and $150 for dinner haha
 

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I've been doing the SA experience for a couple of months. (paid for 1 month, have a dozen good girls to see now). But none of them can give a decent BJ! I don't get it. These girls are down to fuck, real, normal women who just cant afford rent, or want some mad money to self indulge a little. But even with a little direction which they seem to enjoy, the BJ's suck!
to be fair, if they're not SPs and they're not in a good spot financially, some of them may not be having much intimacy nor practice.... so there's that :p
 

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In the primeval era, scarce were the moments when the caveman stumbled upon a rare gem. The young man, in his primal wisdom, hailed mediocrity as if it were the pinnacle of achievement—a celebration of the utterly ordinary. For in a world where finding a decent can of beans was an accomplishment, and where politeness often masked a lack of alternatives, the bar for praise was set low, dancing in tandem with the flickering firelight of limited choices. Now you pay the price.
hahaha love this.

And yet removed from our primeval cousins, so many modern cavemen still the average woman as average, while refusing to look in the mirror - they themselves refusing to wax their ugly, hairy backs, do situps to remove their Miller Genuine Draft pack, properly wash their balls, underarms and asses nor take care of their teeth and breath. Then partake to this review board and declare "No DFK, no chemistry, brief CBJ only, only one shot in an hour and she wanted out of there. Do not recommend."

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Sir, this is an escort review board, if we did "Actual Dating" we wouldn't be here :D


Yes, I've traded links with some guys and they've talked to some of these girls, and they say there are guys who basically expect them to be LeoList hookers, like asking if they can come in their ass in the first conversation :(

That's what you're competing with, like if you actually talk to them like a girl from a bar or the gym, you're probably going to end up paying less. Mind you, yes, if some girl is asking for $1000 first time, definitely tell them, thanks and good luck :)
So true Robl - really interesting though it seems his experiences are really no different than just going out, meeting a cute girl and asking to go on a date and pay for stuff, which can eventually lead to sex either on the first date or maybe second or third. I swear the old school way when I was growing up was so much better than becoming a married, sex-addicted guy in his late 40s.

I had one girl ask for $1,000 and second highest request was $500 for a meet. I can afford that but would get caught in a hearbeat so never pulled the trigger on either. Also, some girls are just adamant about shopping and getting their ever-elusive Gucci bags or whatever. If I was single and had a huge net worth I wouldn't care but at the same time it would be a random, spontaneous gift with a vivacious, normal girl who doesn't expect stuff like that. Expectations of luxury are an absolute red flag.

For those only wanting to do monthly allowance, I had one girl (white/30/barely average looking) ask for $3,000/mo (not sure how many times that would be to meet) and said that was how much her last daddy gave her. Likely not but at the same time, there are a lot of older, ugly, wealthy guys who wouldn't be able to touch someone who's not an SP without that type of arrangement so not out of the realm of possibility.
 

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That's good, yes that's like my experience pre-pandemic, usually going for dinner or drinks at a decent place (not the Keg, but maybe Milestones or State and Main), sometimes we'd get dessert for takeout, and then some fun at my place afterwards. Make them feel like it's a date out but be sensible with your money. Some girls now are definitely up for the straight PPM, you cover their Uber (or they drive) and it's a straigfh hook-up.
That's excellent. It's literally like dating, treating them nicely and then hooking up. Definite win/win for everyone because they're into you enough to also enjoy smashing and know that you're a decent person too.
 

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I'd think the advantage of hinge would be access to not yet converted SBs because seeking has a fairly small number of potentials
I admit I have zero experience with civilian apps
has anyone been able to make it work??
I'm married and I started on Tinder years ago, was almost caught three times it was the most stupid I've ever been in my life especially given status in the business community and all that.

I went on so many dates and it was equal parts excitement/home boredom/nihilism/hedonism with an overarching desire to actually get caught cheating from having such a lack of intimacy at home.
 
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