I've been curious about this but damn..I get bad head from very popular sps. Appreciate this trinket of information..
Sugar Dating Experience
- Thread starter FunInToronto2023
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Hey Virtus3,
You seem like a pretty reasonable guy. I'll just give you my opinion on your situation.
In my experience, Seeking is still the best sugaring site. I know people complain about it but there are still gems there.
I think having 0 unhidden pictures might be hurting you. These girls are being HOUNDED on these sites with dozens of messages a day. If they can't even see what you look like they might just ignore. I'd say put a few on there. Toronto is a big city, and the only one seeing the pics are sugar babies. Worst case scenario and someone finds out, just say that a friend of yours put the profile up as a prank.
There's no getting around that there is a LOT of nonsense in the sugar world. Flakes, scammers, you name it. The girls have to deal with even more of it than we do. And even if you find a good candidate, either of you can pull the plug on the arrangement at any moment, so the odds of having a fantastic SB relationship for years is quite low. One night stands or short term arrangements seem far more common.
An escort could be a good option. You'd have to be ok with not being exclusive (obviously) and you'd be on a ticking clock when you saw her. But I've found seeing an escort multiple times you can sometimes develop a friends with benefits kind of feel.
Be discerning. Only agree to do meet and greet if she really seems to have potential. If you're unsure you can always do a zoom call.
It's not easy. Be patient and enjoy the variety if you can. New girls join these sites every damn day.
You're doing fine. The sugar relationships are about you, the SD. You need to partake when convenient for you and your work schedule. 30 M&G's in a year is a lot. Every other week you are having a date, which as a supplement to normal dating is great. However, if you are not "dating", e..g married, then you want your M&G to lead right after (same day) to intimacy.
For me, 98% of M&G end up the same day with sex. Once I met someone because I wanted to meet first and told her if we hit it off the next meeting includes intimacy. That relationship lasted off and on for a few years, still there if I wanted, but don't. I use seeking, but i'm sure they are all similar. Personally, seeking works well for me.
It sounds like you’re making out decently well on the sugar site but keep in mind how messed up a site like that is at the same time. If you’re not married then maybe if you find a girl like the one that you met up with for 4 months maybe take her on a week long vacation somewhere? It’s like dating in the real world trying to find a temporary unicorn. Many many girls want a relationship long term for good reason so that they can settle down as well, unless they’re also sex addicts. SPs are a very temporary fix I’ve found, no different than most SBs.
If you find an SB that’s a student then that’s probably the most ideal situation. They’re getting more educated and into a more worldly guy with life experience. Birkin bag girls yes there’s some of them but I’ve found there’s tons that aren’t into that stuff as well.
Hey everyone, I've used seeking on and off for a bit with middling success. I want to give it another go, but the membership keeps going up. I remember getting discounts previously when starting up again. Now there's no place for promo codes or anything. Does anyone have any insight on this?
Yeah, they got rid of the discount, unfortunately. You can still sign up for free to view profiles and see if there are girls on there you like. Then sign up. When you go to cancel your subscription after a month, they will offer you a discount to stay. That's the only 'deal' I'm aware of right now.
Secrets still doesn't require ID to join but it's full of bots especially non-verified accounts. I learned that easily years ago when your credits came to ending and a bunch of ladies would msg you. Only need an email to sign up and view accounts otherwise credits to msg ladies. I've met a few over the past 3-5 years on there but I left.
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Before you start asking that kind of thing you need to establish communication with the girl on another platform. Snapchat or text etc...
Yep. Use platforms like Seeking to initially meet the girl and establish rapport before moving to WhatsApp (or similar) to iron out details.
I’m not sure it’s unrealistic for ladies to assume you are willing to part with the sugar since it’s a sugar dating site that is supposed to be full of wealthy men. Only the not so wealthy ones would complain about giving sugar so to speak. You’re playing in a sandbox of wealthy so you are expected to play as wealthy.
If you're looking not to waste too much time then prior to the meet and greet you can say you wanna meet up x amount of times per month and see how much she'd want in return. Most ladies easily want well over $1K a month especially to be exclusive only to you or seeing at least one more daddy. She might openly let you know she'll see one more person or if only you she may want a lot more to make up for it. Maybe $2-4K a month. These are things I generally have asked prior to even a meet and greet. Or I tested the waters and there was barely any physical chemistry so I moved on.
Or in some cases they agree to the terms, but then I guess some other daddy msges them and offers more so it becomes a game of well I'm gonna drop you cause so and so is offering more unless she wants 2-3 daddies. Or something about you might have turned her off eventually and ladies can white lie to end things too.
An escort might be the better option for you who becomes a regular especially if you're busy. It's a matter of msging SBs and finding out their monthly allowance since many have different wants.
And yea some do have unrealistic expectations within the first 2 months. I had a few wanting to go on vacation with me and that's without knowing them for a month or more. No chance in hell am I going somewhere with someone who's snotty, full of attitude and ruins the entire trip for me with hardly putting out which can happen because the first hangouts was just a show they put. I find it annoying going big within the first few meets too because then it becomes expected and more. No thanks.
Greed usually plays a key role when dealing with sugar.
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Well it would seem to me that is the whole point of them being on the site. I doubt they want to entertain anyone that’s broke and that’s going to be stingy. The site sells as a community of wealthy men willing to spend. No one should really be surprised by the sb expectations.
In my experience wealth is only one factor. For most of these girls, you do not have to be a multimillionaire going on trips around the world. Financial support is part of things, but so is being able to host, hygiene, discretion, having good chemistry, etc. Most girls on there aren't looking for a whale.
right so what do you guys open with or try to get them on a different platform?
Just read their profile and ask them a specific question about something on there that isn't sexual in nature.
Obviously every girl is different, but generally just have a few pleasant back-and-forths and then ask them if they want to move to texting (or whatever you use).
this. And a whale would not be interested in 99% of the girls on an SB site for more than one time. I mean the ones that want hand bags and shoes.If wealth wasn’t THE factor they would go on bumble. Not a site designed to find men with money. Of course the better looking ones and those with more offering monthly get priority. Don’t kid yourselves.
Most don't openly tell you what they want they'd rather the guy make the move if it's too low she'll ghost ya or something. I've asked a few since I'd rather them tell me than a guessing game and one lady was getting paid $500 each week to meet up once a week. This guy would also book a hotel room which he paid for and a meal for both of them. So he's dropping about $3K per month including hotel fair and travel. This was brought up on the news before I believe Global News covered it and ladies mentioned they can get anywhere between $2-4K from one guy monthly.
There are some on there getting less of course but it all depends. I've met some who only wanted $100-300 PPM.
The rare few who meet whales these guys will drop like $10K cash in a bag and fly her over to his mansion and fly her back. Most of them probably ask women out in person and mention funds since money talks. Rejection means nothing to them cause they shrug it off and move on to the next one no different mindset to hiring people and firing them cause you're just a number to them.
There are some on there getting less of course but it all depends. I've met some who only wanted $100-300 PPM.
The rare few who meet whales these guys will drop like $10K cash in a bag and fly her over to his mansion and fly her back. Most of them probably ask women out in person and mention funds since money talks. Rejection means nothing to them cause they shrug it off and move on to the next one no different mindset to hiring people and firing them cause you're just a number to them.
