Sugardaddy

[yolosohobby]

Those students were definitely not SPs... Escorts that I have discussed the sugarbaby lifestyle with always end up doing the per hour math! lol

yeah these two would have been mortified if they felt like there was a direct quid pro quo hourly rate.. its all in the marketing! and they weren't poor, they had great family support, funds, they seemed to do it for the extra cash, the naughtiness and the transfer of worldview from an older guy than they hung out w at school.

To your point, in general, i think a lot of sp's dont price their multi hour or multiple session services w a lot of business savvy, especially if they arent as busy as they want to be and with a regular or two with whom they enjoy spending time. They totally under estimate the risks and costs they assume, and focus on the hourly revenue. Not all though, some understand and cut some pretty mutually beneficial arrangements, even while in sp mode. And i get it , everyone is entitled to their own value system !!

 

[yolosohobby]

If you want exclusivity..and by that I'm talking pure exclusivity...I'd say your looking at atleast 5k/mo...and thats just hers..then the apt..maybe a leased vehicle ....but in that arrangement She is with me...only and I'm not seeing anyone else...either.....IMHO

i wouldn't assume anything like that at all . I'd find out what her cost structure is and what impact a lesser amount than 5k a month would have on her life. ( a 5 k gift/ month plus plus is like 90k salary). There are literally tens of thousands of great potential sb's out there with no one or with bf's who cant scrape together 100 bucks and treat them like dreck. They don't want to enter the industry per se, so there is all kinds of room to seek common ground if you set the situation up properly.

Sure if she is already in the sex worker industry her expectations will most likely be set much higher, if she is successful, in line with the scenario you describe.

 

[Smallcock]

i know for a fact that 1000 a month goes a long long way in the sd/sb market , including exclusivity w the right sb

gems in every market !

Absolutely correct. Not all girls want to solicit and have sex with dozens of different men to rack up as much money as possible. Many enjoy the convenience, safety, familiarity, and guaranteed income stream from one or two sources to augment their lifestyle. It's often a smart choice. Nor does it limit their ability to solicit for more clients whenever they feel like it - unless you're going to monitor somebody 24/7 for a month, "exclusivity" is just a word.

 

[yung_dood]

Sugar babies are not the type of women men want to settle down with, I know of some with that particular issue now.

 

[yolosohobby]

Well... let's face it: You just threw around a bunch of words that a great majority of escorts (and escort agencies) have never come close to understanding in their lives. For a lot of the girls that I have met, they just know that they want the money and even though they haven't worked out a formal pricing structure based on a combination of the value they prefer to assign themselves, the market rates, the types of sessions they prefer, etc... they just throw rates up and hope for the best. Sometimes they luck out! I have priced my multiple hour sessions with some logic to them based on what my expectations are and what I feel would be fair and work out best for both parties. There are girls who offer discounts and specials when they are not as busy as they want to be, but that is something that is determined by someone's priorities and choices with regards to the image they want to portray about themselves... I mean, don't we all know what it means when girls give certain discounts and specials in the interests of marketing to drum up business? And lastly we cannot forget to consider that it is an industry based on human interaction and there are times where people deviate from their structured procedures and ways of doing business in order to have a little bit of carefree fun.

Hey Alona, i agree that the business practices Ive laid out are not usually well known (especially by rookie sp's and you are right, agencies) and may seem like just words. I also agree that there is somewhat of a "cartel" aspect to the pricing of services in our market where those who break ranks, to the down side for sure, are at the very least open to being cast as being a poor provider.

And sure, image is an issue too. I totally get it . And have had this broad discussion with several ladies and have successfully negotiated some awesome arrangements, and in other cases have just done less or no business. I 1000% agree that this is a special business, where plain old business practices need to be applied with nuance and flexibility and a rock solid principle must be that ladies should and ought to get whatever they want out of their choice to be in this business, in every aspect of it, financially, self-image, satisfying certain characteristics etc .... just like its my mission to do the same- but never at the expense of a ladies dignity or humanity !! To the dance of life !!!!!

 

[red]

what i don't get is what they do with all that sugar? do they own a candy factory?

 

[afterhours]

If you have a mistress you get pussy and it costs, If you have a wife you get vagina and it costs more:frusty: If you have both and can afford it then god bless

I'm guessing the pussy is a younger version of vagina?

 

[red]

Business aside, I am sure there are ladies who look to this industry to fulfill their own primal needs as well. Some of you guys are pretty awesome despite being stuck in NSA zone!

i don't thinks its right that you spend time alona

 

[yolosohobby]

Business aside, I am sure there are ladies who look to this industry to fulfill their own primal needs as well. Some of you guys are pretty awesome despite being stuck in NSA zone!

Thanks on behalf of the pretty awesome guys ... and yes agreed, thats exactly what i meant by some ladies "satisfying certain characteristics" ... there are all kinds of good reasons, thankfully.

 

[Malika Fantasy]

I've done it twice in the past before I start escorting.
One wanted emotional exclusivity of my part and it ended in a rather brutal way.
The other one was engoing for a few months, he gave me x amount of$ each month for supper then one or two hours in private.He would also sometime help me with bringing me groceries and stuff like that (at the time I was a poor college student struggling to meet the end) It ended when he re conciliated with his wife...after that we still kept in contacts for a bit and we did a couple of photoshoot

I both found them on seekingarrangement

 

[Richard.TO]

I've tried with two different girls about 8 years ago. Didn't work with either. Typically, a SugarBaby wants a certain amount every month and with very little guarantee of any service. The only guarantee is how much they want every month but then again, that keeps changing month after month as they want more and more . I've also found the sex was not very interesting. I do think it's because they believe they have you as SugarDaddy from month to month and they don't need to perform. My personal opinion, get a good SP and spend as much time with her as you can and you'll be better off and will appreciate the sex and companionship a lot more. To tell you the truth, I found it much more apparent that the SugarBaby was in it for the money than the SP's I've seen so far. With the SP's I've seen, they truly made me feel like they were my girlfriend...with the Sugarbaby, not so much.

+1 ....I haven't experienced an SD/SB relationship but from what I've seen, I wouldn't care to either. I really enjoy the company of my fav SP and spend as much time as possible with her during her regular "working hrs" and any chance I get to see her outside her regular working hrs.

 

[djk]

we do! i had a 6 month deal last yr with 2 students, 1200 a month (their rent), TOTAL (well i paid for party supplies - we never went out in public) they visited every friday and stayed all night . The only time Ive done it in Toronto, the deal was just TOO perfect to refuse

Two students for every Friday of the month for $1200/mth? That's $150 for an all-nighter.

Well played, Sir. I tip my hat to you.

 

[Conway_Stewart]

Two students for every Friday of the month for $1200/mth? That's $150 for an all-nighter.

Well played, Sir. I tip my hat to you.

WOW!!!

When you explain it that way...that is an awesome deal!!!

WOW!!!

 

[Conway_Stewart]

@yolo:

 

[djk]

WOW!!!

When you explain it that way...that is an awesome deal!!!

WOW!!!

I just reread what I typed... I was a little lacking in detail. It's $300 for each all-nighter for both of them or $150 per girl.

Still great job, Yolo. Definitely a contender for best post of 2013, IMO.

 

[yolosohobby]

hahahaha appreciate it boys. the point i am trying to make is that there are all kinds of opportunities out there to engage a woman's company, so don't be shy about initiating a respectful, logical conversation wherein with a little probing into her situation, you can gain some insight and guidance on what offer may make a significant impact to her lifestyle

it can be quite appealing for a lot of ladies to develop a steady routine where she takes home 150 bucks & has some drinks & good food (they love to learn to cook) & enjoys some decent sex & learn a little from a guy who has done some interesting things in life - and sometimes for safety they bring a friend ! my advice is don't become totally conditioned by the rates, terms and conditions you see offered here on terb, they represent just one segment of the opportunity - there are other viable markets out there. but they take a little work, there are no reviews !

and again I'll say that seekingarrangements has been quite useful for setting up dates when i am on the road ... just search out a few prospects in whatever town you are going to and its easy to connect, i find it much better than backpage or anything else .... i read a lot of complaints from Terbies about hobbying in the States, this is a nice little workaround. Plus if you get the right lady, she'll know the local hotspots and it enhances all aspects of your visit !!!!