If you're going to commit suicide plan it out. Make sure you have prepared letters for your loved ones, made a will and finished your "bucket list". Talk out your preparations with a mental health professional and thereby make an informed decision of whether suicide is a viable option for you. I've thought about it many times. If there were 60 virgins waiting for me on the other side I would do it in a heartbeat!
Suicide?
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Given how many people have died in the history of the human race... if they are still virgins, that's not very encouraging.If there were 60 virgins waiting for me on the other side I would do it in a heartbeat!
What if they are fat ugly virgins? (i.e like most virgins...lol)If you're going to commit suicide plan it out. Make sure you have prepared letters for your loved ones, made a will and finished your "bucket list". Talk out your preparations with a mental health professional and thereby make an informed decision of whether suicide is a viable option for you. I've thought about it many times. If there were 60 virgins waiting for me on the other side I would do it in a heartbeat!
Your assuming 'death' lasts forever and a day. Maybe in reality it's shorter than our 'life'. We'll find out when we get there.Whatever is going on in death, you will find out about that soon enough, and experience it for billions of years. We only get a few short years of life. If death is better, well, you're going to be getting a lot of it anyway, so why not try out life a little longer?
Here's something worth listening to in this regard:I find this thread a bit disturbing. Anyone contemplating such actions - you leave the ultimate hurt - it severely fucks up those you leave behind. Another thing I will say... is what looks dark and inescapable today looks like a cake walk ten years from now.
I do realize those contemplating it can not help it. I will also say our Mental Health system is woefully inadequate. I remember getting a relative getting 'pushed out" from a hospital in the morning after an attempt - and a serious attempt the night before.
I know it is good to point people to professionals but they need to talk too = to friends.
Strangely enough, some people I know who did kill themselves seemed the happiest and the funniest.
I have had a high number of suicides with my relatives, and I literally had to start a new life to get over it. What happened to them is a different lifetime ago and I had to move on.
The saddest part was the children involved.
Suicide in general - very preventable in many cases - but I think things have to change in our society and we need better Mental Health help for these people.
And if someone you know thinks of it and you know, make sure you tell them how much they mean to you and how you will do anything it takes to help them.
It is appalling -the number of suicides occurring - we are all not doing enough. We will set all kinds of safety standards on items that have lower death rates, and do very little to help people with these preventable illneses.
I also see suicides in my job alot, and I am floored by the amount. I am also floored by some of the methods.
Sorry to subject you all to this reply, but I could not be silent.
http://www.cbc.ca/checkup/main-blog/2011/10/09/can-canada-do-more-to-prevent-suicide/
I note that this has recently become something of a federal political issue.
It has long (for how long I don't know, but long enough) been an issue with Native peoples in Canada.
Yeah, I spoke to a psychiatrist today. I saw that mental health pro. Like I said before, brain chemistry and no big deal. But an interesting discussion topic (potentially), which you (of all people) insist on ruining and making it boring.That is a trick of the mind. It is the current way of looking at things. But your mind and the world around you are like a river: never the same in any two moments. The world is going to change, and YOU are going to change.
You may be stuck in a rut. You may have gone for a long time in that same rut. There are ways to get out of a rut, and a whole different way of looking at the world awaiting you when you do.
Talk to a mental health professional. Some people's rut is chemical. Some need to confront an issue. Some need to deal with stress. Some just need a change in scenery.
fuji, so disappointing... It's almost like you care or something. WTF????
If you go to any family doctor, or go to a walkin clinic or emergency room, and tell the doctor that you can't stop thinking about suicide, it's almost a sure bet that he will be able to cure you. It seems illogical not to try this once all else has failed. All you have to lose is your misery and your death wish.
Wow, has this thread got a lot of views for only 110 posts. Lots of death voyeurs out there I guess. It's on page 3 of the most viewed threads currently on TERB with almost 1400 views at this time.
Most interesting...
As for Sleazure's comment above: "If you go to any family doctor, or go to a walkin clinic or emergency room, and tell the doctor that you can't stop thinking about suicide, it's almost a sure bet that he will be able to cure you. It seems illogical not to try this once all else has failed. All you have to lose is your misery and your death wish. "
Been there, done that. Today in fact.
Is it just impossible to admit that death has its advantages? Is this impossible to admit for some people? Or are those of us who see such advantages just smoking bad drugs, or alternatively, failing to smoke drugs?
Curious that...
Most interesting...
As for Sleazure's comment above: "If you go to any family doctor, or go to a walkin clinic or emergency room, and tell the doctor that you can't stop thinking about suicide, it's almost a sure bet that he will be able to cure you. It seems illogical not to try this once all else has failed. All you have to lose is your misery and your death wish. "
Been there, done that. Today in fact.
Is it just impossible to admit that death has its advantages? Is this impossible to admit for some people? Or are those of us who see such advantages just smoking bad drugs, or alternatively, failing to smoke drugs?
Curious that...
The light at the end of the tunnel is your brain shutting down the electrical circuits, until finally, lights out.what if the light you see at the end of the tunnel is just a birth canal of you being reincarnated and coming out another hole and starting over.
I call dibs on the Half Orc Barbarian.What if they are fat ugly virgins? (i.e like most virgins...lol)
Hmm an infinity of face to face roleplaying games. Fuck jebus, that is heaven for me.
Wet_suit, what do you really want? In terms of responses here?
Doesn't matter what people say, you'll come up with a response as to why suicide is better. I don't agree with everything that Fuji says, but I do share the point if view that if you want to see suicide as the best option; guess what, you'll see suicide as the best option regardless of what people say. I'm not giving you the moralistic speech of 'looking at the bright side of things'. I'm saying that as long as you focus on that as your only option, that will be your only option.
And don't try to rationalize everything. I'm saying that because I have the same tendency as you, I'm more of a pessimistic who tries to cope with things by rationalizing them. Having a rational discussion about suicide here is not possible. You'll get either moralistic advice, or subject views from people who in one way or another have dealt with that.
How can expect anyone to say that death has advantages, if the one who've been there aren't here to tell? There's no way you can know if it's better or worse than life? You can't, and no one else here can.
What I'm trying to say is, work with the information and resources you do know and have access to. What else is there to work with? When I go through very difficult situations, I have to wake myself up and stop thinking 'what if', or 'I wish that'. And use what I have at hand to move one step after the other. What else is there to do anyways? If there was guarantee that dying would take me to a better place, I would consider it, but guess what, I have no clue.
I dont know you, but I can tell you're smart and funny. Again, it's not the whole 'you're amazing, you have so much to live for' speech. It's just an observation from what I'd guess are traits of your personality. When I went through hard times and considered the same you consider, I did changes in a way to use what I had to offer in a different job. I changed environments in a way to meet friends who are more suitable with my personality and what I have to offer. Even changing cities helped me too, the vibe is different. I looked at what I had and what I could do with it.
I'd guess that if you have the tendency to think about suicide, it would never completely go away as another poster mentioned. But there might be ways to feel differently for the most part.
Sorry if it's another subject view and not a rational discussion of wether death is good or not. With no empirical evidence on the matter, i think it's the most we can offer you here...
Doesn't matter what people say, you'll come up with a response as to why suicide is better. I don't agree with everything that Fuji says, but I do share the point if view that if you want to see suicide as the best option; guess what, you'll see suicide as the best option regardless of what people say. I'm not giving you the moralistic speech of 'looking at the bright side of things'. I'm saying that as long as you focus on that as your only option, that will be your only option.
And don't try to rationalize everything. I'm saying that because I have the same tendency as you, I'm more of a pessimistic who tries to cope with things by rationalizing them. Having a rational discussion about suicide here is not possible. You'll get either moralistic advice, or subject views from people who in one way or another have dealt with that.
How can expect anyone to say that death has advantages, if the one who've been there aren't here to tell? There's no way you can know if it's better or worse than life? You can't, and no one else here can.
What I'm trying to say is, work with the information and resources you do know and have access to. What else is there to work with? When I go through very difficult situations, I have to wake myself up and stop thinking 'what if', or 'I wish that'. And use what I have at hand to move one step after the other. What else is there to do anyways? If there was guarantee that dying would take me to a better place, I would consider it, but guess what, I have no clue.
I dont know you, but I can tell you're smart and funny. Again, it's not the whole 'you're amazing, you have so much to live for' speech. It's just an observation from what I'd guess are traits of your personality. When I went through hard times and considered the same you consider, I did changes in a way to use what I had to offer in a different job. I changed environments in a way to meet friends who are more suitable with my personality and what I have to offer. Even changing cities helped me too, the vibe is different. I looked at what I had and what I could do with it.
I'd guess that if you have the tendency to think about suicide, it would never completely go away as another poster mentioned. But there might be ways to feel differently for the most part.
Sorry if it's another subject view and not a rational discussion of wether death is good or not. With no empirical evidence on the matter, i think it's the most we can offer you here...
Hmmm.... Good points. I likes it!Wet_suit, what do you really want? In terms of responses here?
Doesn't matter what people say, you'll come up with a response as to why suicide is better. I don't agree with everything that Fuji says, but I do share the point if view that if you want to see suicide as the best option; guess what, you'll see suicide as the best option regardless of what people say. I'm not giving you the moralistic speech of 'looking at the bright side of things'. I'm saying that as long as you focus on that as your only option, that will be your only option.
And don't try to rationalize everything. I'm saying that because I have the same tendency as you, I'm more of a pessimistic who tries to cope with things by rationalizing them. Having a rational discussion about suicide here is not possible. You'll get either moralistic advice, or subject views from people who in one way or another have dealt with that.
How can expect anyone to say that death has advantages, if the one who've been there aren't here to tell? There's no way you can know if it's better or worse than life? You can't, and no one else here can.
What I'm trying to say is, work with the information and resources you do know and have access to. What else is there to work with? When I go through very difficult situations, I have to wake myself up and stop thinking 'what if', or 'I wish that'. And use what I have at hand to move one step after the other. What else is there to do anyways? If there was guarantee that dying would take me to a better place, I would consider it, but guess what, I have no clue.
I dont know you, but I can tell you're smart and funny. Again, it's not the whole 'you're amazing, you have so much to live for' speech. It's just an observation from what I'd guess are traits of your personality. When I went through hard times and considered the same you consider, I did changes in a way to use what I had to offer in a different job. I changed environments in a way to meet friends who are more suitable with my personality and what I have to offer. Even changing cities helped me too, the vibe is different. I looked at what I had and what I could do with it.
I'd guess that if you have the tendency to think about suicide, it would never completely go away as another poster mentioned. But there might be ways to feel differently for the most part.
Sorry if it's another subject view and not a rational discussion of wether death is good or not. With no empirical evidence on the matter, i think it's the most we can offer you here...
In the ending of one of the best sci-fi movies ever made, Blade Runner, the replicant, Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer), has just beaten the crap out of Deckard (Harrison Ford), yet saves him from falling to his death at the last moment. Batty's due date is almost up and he's about to expire.
Batty: "I've seen things you people couldn't believe; attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched seabeams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All these things will be lost in time...like tears in rain....time..to die."
Deckard: [narrating] "I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life; my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die."
Wet_suit, I don't know your life nor pretend to know what you're going through. But it's interesting to note how some people struggle so valiantly to breathe every last breath that they can, how they cherish each experience, each emotion, and each expression that touches their five senses. Perhaps it's only when one's clock starts ticking towards a short final countdown that one sees the sharp contrast of all the vibrancy (both good and bad) that is part of being alive -- when you compare to the absolute and permanent nothingness of just not being.
Roy Batty filled his life so vibrantly in the 4 short years of his programming. If anyone had the right to lie down and say "ok, thx, that's enough. I'm good." and turn the 'off' switch, it was him. Yet, every last minute of his was a search for more time. Sure, it's fiction, but there are many like him in real life that fight for just a bit more time until their dying breath. Any cancer patient can tell you the same.
Perhaps this doesn't change things. But maybe it's a bit insightful. It just seems to me that you oughta check a few more things off the bucket list before you call it a day. Just my 2 cents.
FD
Batty: "I've seen things you people couldn't believe; attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched seabeams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All these things will be lost in time...like tears in rain....time..to die."
Deckard: [narrating] "I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life; my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die."
Wet_suit, I don't know your life nor pretend to know what you're going through. But it's interesting to note how some people struggle so valiantly to breathe every last breath that they can, how they cherish each experience, each emotion, and each expression that touches their five senses. Perhaps it's only when one's clock starts ticking towards a short final countdown that one sees the sharp contrast of all the vibrancy (both good and bad) that is part of being alive -- when you compare to the absolute and permanent nothingness of just not being.
Roy Batty filled his life so vibrantly in the 4 short years of his programming. If anyone had the right to lie down and say "ok, thx, that's enough. I'm good." and turn the 'off' switch, it was him. Yet, every last minute of his was a search for more time. Sure, it's fiction, but there are many like him in real life that fight for just a bit more time until their dying breath. Any cancer patient can tell you the same.
Perhaps this doesn't change things. But maybe it's a bit insightful. It just seems to me that you oughta check a few more things off the bucket list before you call it a day. Just my 2 cents.
FD
Too many posts to read them all. Here is my comment. Like masturbation, please commit suicide in a very private place and ensure NO innocents are hurt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_NearingRoy Batty filled his life so vibrantly in the 4 short years of his programming. If anyone had the right to lie down and say "ok, thx, that's enough. I'm good." and turn the 'off' switch, it was him. Yet, every last minute of his was a search for more time. Sure, it's fiction, but there are many like him in real life that fight for just a bit more time until their dying breath. Any cancer patient can tell you the same..
http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC26/Nearing.htm
Scott Nearing died on August 24, 1983, just eighteen days after his 100th birthday. His death was a conscious leaving of life brought about by fasting, a decision and experience described in his wife Helen Nearing's memoir, Loving and Leaving the Good Life.
I seem to recall somewhere that he figured he had more than his fair share and decided to go. Not for me, he is one of those tree hugging hippies, but still not a bad way to go. I'd rather die of a massive heart attack celebrating my 120th birthday with 2 Thailand female gymnasts.
