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JackBurton

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I like Chipmunks, they are cute and cool. Chances are they will be eaten by something larger in the coming years, I think a little kindness to animals speaks volumes of someone's character. Cheer up the little bugger, cause someday he is going to be turned into something larger's poop
 

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I like Chipmunks, they are cute and cool. Chances are they will be eaten by something larger in the coming years, I think a little kindness to animals speaks volumes of someone's character. Cheer up the little bugger, cause someday he is going to be turned into something larger's poop

That's the cycle of life, and every species leaves nutrients in their poop that can be eaten by another species ... and so on. I've seen marmots munching on bear scat, and butterflies collecting on cow pies out in the bush.
 

Insidious Von

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Ridiculous, never heard of anyone getting Lyme Disease from chipmunks. Deer on the other hand.....

And I've never heard of a chipmunk population explosion, squirrels keep them in check. Gray Squirrels are very aggressive, you can see it rural areas with the decline of Red Squirrel populations.

Humans have to be careful when they interfere with nature. Emerald Ash Beetles were killing our trees, scientists introduced more wasps into the environment to fight back. It worked but the wasps started praying on bees as well. Bee populations in Southern Ontario have fallen by 70%.

And for those that believe climate change is a hoax - when was the last time you saw a Red Squirrel in the GTA?
 

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Ridiculous, never heard of anyone getting Lyme Disease from chipmunks. Deer on the other hand.....

And I've never heard of a chipmunk population explosion, squirrels keep them in check. Gray Squirrels are very aggressive, you can see it rural areas with the decline of Red Squirrel populations.

Humans have to be careful when they interfere with nature. Emerald Ash Beetles were killing our trees, scientists introduced more wasps into the environment to fight back. It worked but the wasps started praying on bees as well. Bee populations in Southern Ontario have fallen by 70%.
Ticks spread Lyme disease, not deer or chipmunks. Deer are obviously larger than chipmunks, so they are likely to carry more ticks. My point is that you shouldn't hand feed wild animals, but if you choose to, you should know that there are risks.

General Mills has started a program to raise awareness about the disappearance of honey bees, but it seems to have run into problems.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/general-mills-bee-boosting-battle-badly-backfires/
 

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Insidious Von

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It was a pesticide free solution to bring the beetle populations infesting trees under control, breed more wasps. The program was started while Clinton was still President and it has been partially successful. But they didn't do their homework, wasps destroy beehives.

The most successful biological solution was the breeding of Ladybugs to cull the exploding population of crop destroying aphids. Try keeping LB's out of your house in the Fall.

 

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Ticks spread Lyme disease, not deer or chipmunks.
BUT and it is a huge BUT the ticks which almost exclusively transmit Lyme disease are Deer Ticks. Gee why might that be because their principle hosts are Chipmunks? It has nothing to do with size but with host preference, the principle reservoir of Lyme Disease is White Tail Deer.

So, enough already with the nonsense about Chipmunks, if you do feed them by hand wash your hands thoroughly immediately afterwards and do not touch your mouth, nose, eyes or generally anywhere on your body until you have. There is not some huge epidemic of Chipmunk borne disease in Eastern Canada or the U.S.A.!
 

versitile1

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BUT and it is a huge BUT the ticks which almost exclusively transmit Lyme disease are Deer Ticks. Gee why might that be because their principle hosts are Chipmunks? It has nothing to do with size but with host preference, the principle reservoir of Lyme Disease is White Tail Deer.

So, enough already with the nonsense about Chipmunks, if you do feed them by hand wash your hands thoroughly immediately afterwards and do not touch your mouth, nose, eyes or generally anywhere on your body until you have. There is not some huge epidemic of Chipmunk borne disease in Eastern Canada or the U.S.A.!
That still doesn't change the fact that ticks spread Lyme disease, not deer or chipmunks or anything else. Ticks. Whether an infected tick has attached itself to a deer or chipmunk, then onto you doesn't change the fact that you'll contract Lyme disease, as well. Just because it does not happen very often doesn't mean it can't happen.

But go ahead, keep hand feeding your rodents.
 

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Though ticks can be spread through chipmunks, the risks are very small in relation to:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/lyme-disease#_Check_your_pets

Blacklegged ticks (also called deer ticks) live in woodlands, tall grasses and bushes – and thrive in wet environments.

They are most commonly found in areas along the north shores of Lake Erie, Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence River.

"Not all blacklegged ticks carry Lyme disease. A tick must be infected by the bacteria causing Lyme disease in order to pass it on to you.

While the probability is low, it’s possible to encounter an infected tick almost anywhere in Ontario

Ticks are most active in the summer months, but can be found at any time of the year when the temperature is above freezing."

Infected ticks are commonly found in these areas:

Long Point Provincial Park on the northwest shore of Lake Erie
Turkey Point Provincial Park on the northwest shore of Lake Erie
Rondeau Provincial Park on the north shore of Lake Erie
Point Pelee National Park on north shore of Lake Erie
Pinery Provincial Park on the southeast shore of Lake Huron
Rouge Valley/Rouge Park on east side of Greater Toronto Area
Prince Edward Point National Wildlife Area on northeast shore of Lake Ontario
Wainfleet Bog Conservation Area on the Niagara Peninsula
Infected ticks are becoming more common in the Rainy River area of northwestern Ontario.

Blacklegged ticks spread to new areas of the province because of climate change and warmer winter temperatures. They can also spread by traveling on birds and deer.

 

benstt

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I post a video where they show you how to build a live trap and one guy says "That's fucked up. I guess that fit you though" even though they didn't watch the video. And another guy starts going on about some "book" or something. The funniest part is that they didn't even catch anything in that video and these guys want to assume the worst, thinking I posted a video showing a dead chipmunk or something. Hilarious.
The chipmunk will just jump out of the empty bucket. What they didn't show is that they mean for you to put water in to drown the chippie. Other versions online include the water.

Here's a chippie jumping out of a 5 gallon bucket. The comments repeat that you need water in the bucket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvjmtfeBicc
 

versitile1

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The chipmunk will just jump out of the empty bucket. What they didn't show is that they mean for you to put water in to drown the chippie. Other versions online include the water.

Here's a chippie jumping out of a 5 gallon bucket. The comments repeat that you need water in the bucket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvjmtfeBicc
And there are other versions where they catch the rodents alive. What's your point?
 

versitile1

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That it is stupid, leave the Chipmunks alone unless somehow they have gotten into your house.
Exactly, leave them alone. Meaning DON'T HAND FEED THEM. Really, what's more stupid than hand feeding wild rodents?
 

GPIDEAL

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https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

Diseases carried by rodents (yes, chipmunks are rodents).

From the CDC website;

  • Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome
  • Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome
  • Lassa Fever
  • Leptospirosis
  • Lymphocytic Chorio-meningitis (LCM)
  • Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
  • Plague
  • Rat-Bite Fever
  • Salmonellosis
  • South American Arenaviruses (Argentine hemorrhagic fever, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, Sabiá-associated hemorrhagic fever, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever)
  • Tularemia

I'm pretty sure that the chipmunks around the cottage are STD free.

(While they can be a bit of a nuisance in a cottage garage during winter with the storage of acorns, etc., it all depends how you allow them to find places to nest, otherwise, they are harmless and cute).
 

GPIDEAL

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Though ticks can be spread through chipmunks, the risks are very small in relation to:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/lyme-disease#_Check_your_pets

Blacklegged ticks (also called deer ticks) live in woodlands, tall grasses and bushes – and thrive in wet environments.

They are most commonly found in areas along the north shores of Lake Erie, Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence River.

"Not all blacklegged ticks carry Lyme disease. A tick must be infected by the bacteria causing Lyme disease in order to pass it on to you.

While the probability is low, it’s possible to encounter an infected tick almost anywhere in Ontario

Ticks are most active in the summer months, but can be found at any time of the year when the temperature is above freezing."

Infected ticks are commonly found in these areas:

Long Point Provincial Park on the northwest shore of Lake Erie
Turkey Point Provincial Park on the northwest shore of Lake Erie
Rondeau Provincial Park on the north shore of Lake Erie
Point Pelee National Park on north shore of Lake Erie
Pinery Provincial Park on the southeast shore of Lake Huron
Rouge Valley/Rouge Park on east side of Greater Toronto Area
Prince Edward Point National Wildlife Area on northeast shore of Lake Ontario
Wainfleet Bog Conservation Area on the Niagara Peninsula
Infected ticks are becoming more common in the Rainy River area of northwestern Ontario.

Blacklegged ticks spread to new areas of the province because of climate change and warmer winter temperatures. They can also spread by traveling on birds and deer.

Thanks for this.

My mother's property in the west end (not included in your list) is visited by deer. No tall grasses either. I took a picture of a young one. She was not afraid.
 

GPIDEAL

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That still doesn't change the fact that ticks spread Lyme disease, not deer or chipmunks or anything else. Ticks. Whether an infected tick has attached itself to a deer or chipmunk, then onto you doesn't change the fact that you'll contract Lyme disease, as well. Just because it does not happen very often doesn't mean it can't happen.

But go ahead, keep hand feeding your rodents.
Apparently an owner of Magnotta Wines in Vaughan died of Lyme Disease. It's a quiet killer.
 
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