The $60 Billion Vaccine Hoax

[Sergei]

Anyone else concerned about the big announcement to spend $60 billion on vaccines for the third world, half of it to be paid for by the (you guessed it) American taxpayers? I mean, this is a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from the people to the pharmaceuticals, which actually have a dubious track record when it comes to charity (ie: they only do things for the money).

The number one cause of disease in poor countries is dirty drinking water. Instead of spending money to provide people with clean water, they spend it on vaccinating for profit at our expense, with vaccines that have never been proven safe (in fact, they are dangerous).

I'm all in favour of helping people - but this is one big hoax.

 

[Aardvark154]

The number one cause of disease in poor countries is dirty drinking water. Instead of spending money to provide people with clean water, they spend it on vaccinating for profit at our expense, with vaccines that have never been proven safe (in fact, they are dangerous).

While I entirely agree with you about the importance of providing pure drinking water. Have to disagree with you in the strongest terms regarding the efficacy of vaccines. This unfortunate boloney about the vaccination of children is almost entirely due to said vaccines success in eliminating many commonly fatal diseases of childhood over the past half-century and consequently many people's lack of fear of them.

 

[Sergei]

Actually, you are wrong. Take a look at the STATISTICAL data. The incidence of diseases did NOT go down as a result of vaccines. I've researched this topic to the very core. The data prove beyond any measure of doubt that the diseases you refer to were eliminated through an improvement in hygiene and not by vaccines.

Vaccines are dangerous, look it up.

As a matter of fact, the US gov't has a fund to reimburse people whose children were MAIMED by vaccines.

Vaccines=big business. And nothing more. What are they linked to? Allergies, asthma, autism, "sudden infant death syndrome," etc.....

http://curezone.com/topic/vaccination/

 

[Sergei]

"Efficacy" as defined by the FDA: reducing the size of a tumour by 50% in 4 weeks of chemo"therapy." Nothing about life extension, quality of life, NOTHING!!!

And this I got from the FDA's own website. Perhaps the most corrupt agency EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Recently, I read the comments of the head of a cancer clinic in Valecia, Spain. His words? 90% of chemotherapy is USELESS. It only has life-extension effects in a very few types of cancer.

The hepatitis vaccine? Responsible for a 60% increase in type A diabetes in New Zealand children. Don't believe me? Check out the NZ gov't site.

 

[Aardvark154]

The data prove beyond any measure of doubt that the diseases you refer to were eliminated through an improvement in hygiene and not by vaccines.

Please Poliomyelitis, Small Pox (Variola), measles (rubeola), and rubella are not today common deadly diseases in North America due to improvements in hygiene?!

Vaccines are dangerous. . . the US gov't has a fund to reimburse people whose children were MAIMED by vaccines.

Yes, people do have fatal complications from vaccination, however the death rate due to vaccination is minuscule compared to the death rate from contacting the disease.

 

[Sergei]

Please Poliomyelitis, Small Pox (Variola), measles (rubeola), and rubella are not today common deadly diseases in North America due to improvements in hygiene?!Yes, people do have fatal complications from vaccination, however the death rate due to vaccination is minuscule compared to the death rate from contacting the disease.

Bullshit. Like I said - look at the DATA. I first researched the subject when I read the article of an EPIDEMIOLOGIST (I was actually in med school then but later quit because of all this bullshit) who said that vaccinations have had ZERO effect on eliminating diseases. Then I found PLENTY of others who agreed. Why? Because the STATISTICS support them.

Measles? Give me a break. I got the measles and nothing happened. Yet another $$$$ trend today. Creating more fear of diseases. Now they're vaccinating for measles (got it - still alive), mumps (got it - still alive), chicken pox (got it - still alive), hepatitis (you get it through sexual/blood contact), HPV (7 girls dead and over 500 disabled from the vaccine in the USA alone).

 

[Aardvark154]

I got the measles and nothing happened.

Glad it didn't, others have died.

 

[Sergei]

Glad it didn't, others have died.

My point was this:

1) Vaccines have never been proven to be effective. The statistics show this with 100% certainty. The diseases they were vaccinating for were practically eliminated BEFORE mass vaccinations began. Look at the data. I already have.

2) The gov't is passing our money over to the pharmaceuticals, which have the biggest profits around, nowadays. Why? Because it's a fucking mafia, that's why. It would be much cheaper to build a decent infrastructure in Africa than to waste $60 billion on vaccinating unsuspecting people. But then that wouldn't be very profitable, would it?

 

[Sergei]

Or how about the fake "diseases" they've created to make money off of?

Generalized anxiety syndrome.
Attention deficit disorder.
Restless leg syndrome.
Chronic Fatigue syndrome.
Etc...

Next thing you know, itchy eyebrow syndrome will enter the list of officially recognized "diseases" to fuel pharmafia profits. Some kind of (expensive) pill will "cure" it.

 

[Aardvark154]

The diseases they were vaccinating for were practically eliminated BEFORE mass vaccinations began.

Polio was practically non-existent before the Salk and Sabin Vaccines?!!!

 

[Sergei]

That's not what I said. Look at the data. What they do is this: They compare 2 dates. One when polio was common. One a few years after the vaccine. Big decrease in polio. However, if you compare the first date with the day BEFORE the vaccinations began, the decrease in polio is basically the same. They are liars. That is all.

 

[Aardvark154]

Look at the data.

You are out of your cotton picking mind!!!!!!!

Not only that, what you write is frankly insulting to the memory of those who died or where paralyzed between 1950 and 1955!

 

[Sergei]

Actually, what I say I got from doctors who blew the whistle on this whole bullshit. It does not come from my cotton picking (I would guess African American) mind. Read my previous posts.

You have a belief in vaccines. I don't. It's that simple.

Anyone who does the research into vaccines knows what a bunch of bullshit they are. The proof of this is their aggressive response to any criticism. Anything to protect a multi billion dollar business.

As far as paralysis goes, talk to the people whose children have been paralyzed by vaccines.

 

[Sergei]

I didn't see anyone address my central point - they are transferring a shitload of money from taxpayers to pharmaceuticals when they could be spending the money in Africa to actualy HELP people. I really don't think the pharma industry is going to solve Africa's problems. After all, they're down there testing dangerous medications on people and using them like lab rats. The fact that they portray themselves as some kind of Jesus is a disgrace

 

[cypherpunk]

Vaccines have never been proven to be effective. The statistics show this with 100% certainty.

Oh, I see your problem. You don't know dick about statistics.

 

[cypherpunk]

they are transferring a shitload of money from taxpayers to pharmaceuticals when they could be spending the money in Africa to actualy HELP people.

Vaccination helps everyone, including tax payers. It's not as if infectious diseases respect national boundries, is it? As for vaccines not actually helping Africans, you're a fucking tool.

 

[Aardvark154]

It does not come from my cotton picking (I would guess African American) mind.

Ah, so now it's not a euphuism it's a racist comment. Perhaps it would be better for me to say your ideas come from Лукавого! But, given your post from Frank Zapa, like the late J. Dzhugashvili (Джугашви́ли) you probably don’t believe in evil.

 

[Aardvark154]

To quote the title of a well know book by the late Fawn Brode No man knows my history. Thank goodness, none of you have any idea how very close to the bone this topic is for me. I beseech anyone who has children or grandchildren, nieces or nephews to have then vaccinated!

Sergei writes :

HPV (7 girls dead and over 500 disabled from the vaccine in the USA alone).

This in a nation of over 300 million of which over 30 million are girls under the age of 14. Given my experience* with Cervical Dysplasia and the turmoil it caused, you bet your life and mine that if I had a daughter I'd take these odds!

*I am male

 

[someone]

Smallpox is likely the best example of the success of vaccines. It once killed millions and now only exists in labs.

 

[LancsLad]

The question goes beyond the matter of the effectiveness of the vacines.

The main point to me is the massive wealth transfer once again from the wealthy productive West to the freaken third world. The cost never ends. If we save them this year by spending a fortune on drugs to keep them alive then next year and every year after that we will have to pay to feed them and the offspring they have at an alarming rate. It never ends, Let nature do its thing and save the cash.