THE DAUGHTER has been ARRESTED in the Fatal Markham Home Invasion.

Plan B

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Good point!

My perspective. As a black man living in this city I really try to stay out of these discussions. Yes, we have a serious issue with young black males and guns in this city. The problem was in this case people like Plan B and his "attitude" was quick to judge even before thinking. But this thread will eventually get back to black crime, so let me start it.

Until our city and the people in it decide to address this issue, it's only going to get worse. Some black people need to get their shit together, but if people keep sticking their heads in the sand with the attitude, "it's not my problem", "It's a black problem", then it will never be solved. I'm tired of people bitching and complaining and pointing fingers saying, fix "your" problem, until a Jane Creba incident happens, then everyone is shocked. Happened in 2005. How much have things changed?
Listen BB, stop diffusing responsibility...everybody knows that there is serious problems with crime and the black community in Toronto. Stop imparting responsibility on innocent communities in this city, and take ownership. The black community loves to take credit for its "own" when there are accomplishments like the Harry Jerome Awards, but when it gets down to talking about crime..."everybody has to get involved! This makes no sense. One of the reasons there is so much crime in the black community is because of the lack of male role models. Why not become a role model for youth and become part of the solution? But oh no, you would rather spend time on a hooker board saying you are tired of victims complaining and bitching. It starts with you BB.
 

Plan B

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How do we know that white guy wasn't fucking her?
They may have taken turns...but the one thing that will probably come out in the end, is that it was one of the black guys that pulled the trigger that killed the mother, and wounded the father.
 

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Listen BB, stop diffusing responsibility...everybody knows that there is serious problems with crime and the black community in Toronto. Stop imparting responsibility on innocent communities in this city, and take ownership. The black community loves to take credit for its "own" when there are accomplishments like the Harry Jerome Awards, but when it gets down to talking about crime..."everybody has to get involved! This makes no sense. One of the reasons there is so much crime in the black community is because of the lack of male role models. Why not become a role model for youth and become part of the solution? But oh no, you would rather spend time on a hooker board saying you are tired of victims complaining and bitching. It starts with you BB.
You have no clue what I do, what I' involved with, or what I've lost because of gang violence. So please keep your head in the sand and stick to your racist (yeah I said it) bullshit self
 

Sammy the Bull

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I find it hilarious and downright gonzo that you have people on this thread trying to make excuses for this little asian girl killing her parents....

"oh...she got in with the wrong crowd..."
"its drugs..."
"oh the black guy she was fucking made her do it"
Did I say anywhere that her conduct is excusable??
I'm merely trying to figure out how an Asian, suburban girl can turn into a cold-blooded killer (of her own mom no less)
 

GotGusto

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I'm merely trying to figure out how an Asian, suburban girl can turn into a cold-blooded killer (of her own mom no less)
There's nothing to figure out. People don't "turn into" cold blooded killers. They're either cold blooded or they aren't. They will act on their cold blooded instincts when and if the "right" opportunity arises. The only exception I can think of is passion killings where perfectly normal people are prepared to murder somebody in the heat of the moment because they're overtaken by love/hate emotions, or people high on drugs. But pre-meditation doesn't fall into that category.

Why aren't you asking how the three men became cold blooded killers? You expect that they should be?
 

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They may have taken turns...but the one thing that will probably come out in the end, is that it was one of the black guys that pulled the trigger that killed the mother, and wounded the father.
Plan B, how would you libertarians deal with black people? Please elaborate in detail.
 

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There is something very fishy in Markham (and in Denmark). This family from VietNam is ethnically Chinese. (I Googled "Pan" and it is an old Chinese surname.) Ethnic Chinese daughters are taught from the moment they are born to love, honour, respect and obey their parents. It is simply not in their DNA to murder their parents. Name one case where an ethnic Chinese daughter murdered her parents.

If this daughter was involved, it is most likely as an unwitting or unwilling participant. Also, it is odd that the police force famous for busting MP's, "solved" this case by arresting the daughter. Very convenient! Is it true that this daughter also has no history of criminal activities.
 

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Ethnic Chinese daughters are taught from the moment they are born to love, honour, respect and obey their parents. It is simply not in their DNA to murder their parents. Name one case where an ethnic Chinese daughter murdered her parents.

If this daughter was involved, it is most likely as an unwitting or unwilling participant.
The things that people are taught since the day they are born become part of their DNA? I'm no geneticist but even I know that's a load of pigshit.
 

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I find it hilarious and downright gonzo that you have people on this thread trying to make excuses for this little asian girl killing her parents....

"oh...she got in with the wrong crowd..."
"its drugs..."
"oh the black guy she was fucking made her do it"
No one is excusing her behavior. She hung out with the wrong crowd, she learned the wrong values, and now she's going to jail I hope for the rest of her natural life. It was her choice to hang out with those losers, her choice to adopt gangland values and hang out with gangland losers.
 

GotGusto

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No one is excusing her behavior. She hung out with the wrong crowd, she learned the wrong values, and now she's going to jail I hope for the rest of her natural life. It was her choice to hang out with those losers, her choice to adopt gangland values and hang out with gangland losers.
You've taken one too many hits from the bong. If you don't ease up, you'll end up like some of my old friends who now walk the city streets aimlessly in rags, scrounging leftover food, and don't know there own names.
 

Rockslinger

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The things that people are taught since the day they are born become part of their DNA? I'm no geneticist but even I know that's a load of pigshit.
Do you not think that stuff that is taught for 20,000 generations does not become part of your DNA that forms your intelligence, personality and value system? Where do you think your DNA came from? It came from many previous generations of "GotGustos".
 

Rockslinger

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So you're saying that not killing your parents is exclusive to Asians? I'm missing your point Rocky.
The point is that a Chinese daughter murdering her parents is as rare as you winning the lottery. On the other hand, the odds of a ---------------shooting someone to death happens almost on a weekly basis here in Toronto now. I don't doubt that the daughter (with no history of criminal behaviour) is somehow involve but the "mastermind" behind the entire operation just defies rational belief.
 

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Do you not think that stuff that is taught for 20,000 generations does not become part of your DNA that forms your intelligence, personality and value system? Where do you think your DNA came from? It came from many previous generations of "GotGustos".
Take it up with your local geneticist, ok?
 
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