incredibly impressive.Then this won't be very popular.
incredibly impressive.Then this won't be very popular.
You misunderstood my post. Please re read it.Why would the protesters care about helping the Dems?
That's not what they are thinking about.
Except it wouldn't have stayed in the news cycle long enough to register.The Law & Order narrative was coming no matter what the students did, though.
Even if they left quietly on day 1, there would have been bragging about how "they didn't let it get out of hand like it did in New York".
They have to move at some point. They are creating disruption. That's why all campuses are ordering them to vacate.Them being there doesn't bother me. The anti-semitic slogans and cheering of violence though does impact the safety and security of other students though.
I don't have to prove it a second time. The chief prosecutor said it.You are lying again.
Prove this claim, hammy.
No, just people who back genocide like nazis.So people who disagree with you deserve to be harassed and face death threats just like the idiot at Columbia. Nice.
Fixed your post for accuracy.The actual UN, the ones with power, demanded Israel and Hamas accept a ceasefire for Ramadan and immediately release their hostages.
In todays news, world leaders are practically begging Hamas to accept Israel's latest ceasefire offer.
Your article agrees with my interpretation.Really, you'd be shocked after everything else the US has done?
I didn't think you were that naive.
It sounds like you are not happy about saving lives for 40 days.Fixed your post for accuracy.
In today's news Blinken says its very generous for Israel to offer to stop killing Palestinians for 40 days.
Why would it threaten peace talks?Your article agrees with my interpretation.
Are you saying that you don't think it will threaten the peace talks?
Why would I be happy if that allows the genocide to continue?It sounds like you are not happy about saving lives for 40 days.
I think that reinforces what your objectives actually are.
It might not be.Then this won't be very popular.
One of the problems is there are very clearly multiple groups at the protests.Them being there doesn't bother me. The anti-semitic slogans and cheering of violence though does impact the safety and security of other students though.
Can't make head or tails of it, then.You misunderstood my post. Please re read it.
Oh, I agree about that.Except it wouldn't have stayed in the news cycle long enough to register.
The Universities cracking down really pushed it up the media ladder.
Because if you believe Bibi is extending the war to preserve his own neck, then making it clear that stopping the war doesn't help him any doesn't incentivize him to stop the war.Why would it threaten peace talks?
Its not like Hamas has anything to do with the charges at the ICC.
Its not stopping the war, its a 40 day pause to return the hostages then a return to the genocide.Because if you believe Bibi is extending the war to preserve his own neck, then making it clear that stopping the war doesn't help him any doesn't incentivize him to stop the war.
Or just the basic thing that when you are trying to negotiate something, every major change in the situation sets negotiations back.
I have no idea how much the offer is due to internal pressure from Israeli protesters.Its not stopping the war, its a 40 day pause to return the hostages then a return to the genocide.
On top of that it doesn't even have clauses about allowing enough food in to deal with the famine.
How much of the offer of a ceasefire is really due to pressure from Israeli protesters over returning the hostages?
“Israel will under no circumstances agree to ending the war as part of a deal to free our hostages.”I have no idea how much the offer is due to internal pressure from Israeli protesters.
There are multiple groups with multiple agendas.
Many people just want a ceasefire, with the hope that a ceasefire means people don't die during that time and makes it harder to restart the killing.
Other people think a ceasefire is just a PR exercise and the killing will continue immediately afterwards so therefore what's the point in having even a temporary ceasefire - there is some other goal that must be achieved, whether it is a legal agreement on humanitarian aid or the creation of an entirely new political system.
Some think the hostages returning means the end of the campaign.
Others think the hostages are the only leverage that can eventually be used to stop the campaign in a settlement acceptable to both sides.
Others still think neither side actually cares about the hostages.
So by that logic, giving up the hostages would be a no brainer, since it has no effect on the situation.
How do you think things are going to magically "stop entirely", exactly?Hopefully it just stops entirely with no more killing.
I was just bicycling by UofT and saw a young woman wearing a keffiyeh and I still feel bad that I didn’t yell “heil hitler”One of the problems is there are very clearly multiple groups at the protests.
I know people who are quite pro-Palestine who won't go near these protests as long as groups like SPJ are leaders.
There is also the simple fact that the energy driving these protests for the students is only tangentially about this conflict.
Lots of the student protests are mixed in with local issues on those student campuses. (This always happens.)
Lots of the protesters at the places getting big media coverage aren't going to be students anymore either, because it is a thing getting large media coverage and so they are there for those reasons.
These things get complicated.
Sure it does, there are massive anti Netanyahu protests over the hostages.So by that logic, giving up the hostages would be a no brainer, since it has no effect on the situation.
How long do you think the genocide can continue?How do you think things are going to magically "stop entirely", exactly?