The Reagan Era is Over

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If you limit your list of for-profit drugs to prozac and viagra then you are obviously just trying to score cheap rhetorical points, and I guess you're just stubbornly refusing to see the obvious in that case.
 

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fuji said:
If you limit your list of for-profit drugs to prozac and viagra then you are obviously just trying to score cheap rhetorical points, and I guess you're just stubbornly refusing to see the obvious in that case.
I used the 2 recent top money makers against the most significant Canadian contribution.

I'll concede that Aspirin was both a big money maker and a useful patented drug although I don't know if Aspirin is as important as insulin.

Penicillin is more important than insulin and was patented, but others had documented the antibacterial effects of Penicillium before Fleming. Still, the patent may have motivated Fleming to get his discovery to market.

I don't think that ether or smallpox vaccine were patented.

A method for morphine extraction was patented, but the drug was being used for pain contrial before the extraction patent.

Theoretically, I can see that patents should be a strong motivation for discovery, but it would be interesting to put historical examples head to head to see the impact of patents.
 

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The issue with patents is not their existence, but rather their length. The IT industry has far, far shorter patent cycles than the drug business, and produces far faster levels of innovation.

Drug companies would argue the length and nature of testing, regulation, etc is what makes it so long and expensive to get products to market. They have a point there, so reforming both and then shortening the length of time for which patents are allowed would help.
How about shortening the time to zero?

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The other issue is that most drugs just don't work, and our medical community is addicted to "selling" them, indirectly, instead of dealing with core causes to diseases.
If most drugs don't work then the FDA and individual physicians are failing at their jobs and succumbing to Big Pharma lobbying. So along with eliminating patents, the government should eliminate the FDA, and remove the restriction that only physicians can prescribe. These actions would allow the members of the public to make their own decisions.

If I were a pure libertarian I would subscribe to the above removal of regulations, but I'm not a pure libertarian (yet), and I don’t have an opinion as to how well the FDA is doing its job. If I could recommend the FDA then I can see allowing a limited patent as a means for the drug company to recoup its costs of satisfying FDA regulations.

At the present time, I recommend more transparency by the FDA. This would include disclosing the full rationale for decisions including references to the medical literature. This would also include disclosing potential conflicts of interests for FDA decision makers.

The matter of physician disclosure of lobbying is complex. Physicians are private business people, but, as possessors of a government imposed monopoly on prescribing, they are lobbied directly by Big Pharma in their offices and at conferences. Should physicians keep a list of their lobbyist visits for patients to consult?
 

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Reagan and the economy....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5474580/


Reagan (1981-1989) ranks just after Kennedy, his success highlighted by his halving of the inflation rate. Veronique de Rugy, a research fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, says the key to Reagan's record was urging spending cuts to finance tax cuts and an increase in defense spending. "This is the only instance where we see this type of behavior where we have a president who understands you can't have it all," she says. Reagan's first term, marred by a nasty recession, was not stellar, despite a sharp reduction in inflation caused by U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker's dramatic shift in monetary policy, which started under Carter. Reagan's second term, though, was very strong.
 

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Now that's funny.

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