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The Silence of the Muslim Community in Missisauga to the murder of Aqsa Parvez

GotGusto

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This is the heart of the problem.

The Muslim community and its religous leaders in Canada are not speaking out against murder of women. Until this happens, these murders will only continue. Not one. By remaining silent (at best) they enable this kind of violence to fester and grow.
Well, that's wishful thinking. It's never going to happen. Look to France to see what the future holds for Canada in terms of its Muslim population.
 

Aardvark154

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This story contains a quote about a Canadian Imam speaking out against honour killings. It took me time to find.
My hat is off to Syed Soharwardy, seemingly the only Imam Canada or the U.S. who has the courage to speak out!

I'm glad you found this article and very sad that there aren't many more.
 

Aardvark154

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#34 two above, was taken at a rally in Boston sponsored by the Unitarian-Universalist Association for the right of same sex couples to marry in Massachusetts.

Now should we ask whether those who vehemently disagree with the protestors have the right to kill them? Or does “thou shalt do no murder” over and beyond Massachusetts General Laws cover it.
 

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The point IS that those who do NOT condone it are NOT speaking up OR speaking up loud enough. Never mind honour killings ..... in the Christian community EVEN molestation of boys by priests created much outcry & condemnation. TIME for muslems to get some balls & speak up LOUD against radicalism to the point of making it intolerable & ERADICATING it. This is like people in gettos turning a blind eye to crime & violence & then it continues, grows & gets out of control. I have no respect or sympathy for these silent Muslems. I heard constant news of condemnation of Christian priests. Barely a curt disaproval from the Muslem community........ and these are brutal killings!!! These killings are a matter of routine everyday in the Muslem countries. There is no room in a global market place for 1st Century religious barbarism.
 

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That is not an accurate quote. In the same passage, both the man and woman are stoned in the event of adultery. In any case, the Christian and Catholic Churches gave up on the death sentence for adultery a really long time ago. It was one of the major points in writing the New Testament. "Let he who casts the first stone be the one guilty of no sin ..." Christianity espouses forgiveness.

In a modern Church, no one supports the practice of stoning. All clergy and all parishioners consider stoning murder.
 

toguy5252

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That is not an accurate quote. In the same passage, both the man and woman are stoned in the event of adultery. In any case, the Christian and Catholic Churches gave up on the death sentence for adultery a really long time ago. It was one of the major points in writing the New Testament. "Let he who casts the first stone be the one guilty of no sin ..." Christianity espouses forgiveness.

In a modern Church, no one supports the practice of stoning. All clergy and all parishioners consider stoning murder.
Unfortunately a common tactic. If someone criticizes Islam today the automatic response is to point out the sins of Christians in the Crusades or some such thing.
 

cute-bald

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Darn right there was a LOT of sins of the Christians & LOTS of barbarism. ALL the MORE reason for the Muslims to learn from the past & mistakes of others & do what Christians did..... spoke up against barbarik behaviour & eradicate it. WHEN will Muslims start doing the same? ALSO history showed combining Church & State caused much radical behaviour & power struggle resulting in much bloodshed. WHEN will Muslims stop their " religious rule" , dictators & radicalism & SEPARATE Church & State for real?
 

Aardvark154

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That is not an accurate quote.
Indeed, the sign appears to be a condensation at least from a quick lookup of the passage in a couple of translations.

Of course if Diehard's point is that the Book of Deuteronomy reflects the world view of the late seventh century B.C., including the idea that women are property. I don’t believe that many are going to dispute that point. Then again nether Christians nor Jews are demanding that an unbetrothed man pay the father of a virgin he rapes fifty silver shekels and then marry her.
 

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That is not an accurate quote. In the same passage, both the man and woman are stoned in the event of adultery. In any case, the Christian and Catholic Churches gave up on the death sentence for adultery a really long time ago. It was one of the major points in writing the New Testament. "Let he who casts the first stone be the one guilty of no sin ..." Christianity espouses forgiveness.

In a modern Church, no one supports the practice of stoning. All clergy and all parishioners consider stoning murder.

Yes they re-wrote the Old Testament to suit their needs and control the sheep.
Much like a lot of lunatic evangelicals in the U.S. a few months ago were talking about changing some passages in the Bible because they were too "liberal".

I'd personally still like to know, after Adam & Even how did the earth populate so much?
Incest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
 

scarlet6969

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we should let more of these lovely people in canada so when they get into parliment when theres enough of them.... they can bring sharia law in and get rid of our laws we have in effect today
 

mandrill

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I agree but you forget, this is Canada where an ounce of weed gets you 5 years in jail and murder gets you 20 years, out in 5 with good behaviour. Some justice system we have.
Actually, they got life imprisonment with no parole eligibility for 18 years.
 

Aardvark154

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Yes they re-wrote the Old Testament to suit their needs and control the sheep.
Much like a lot of lunatic evangelicals in the U.S. a few months ago were talking about changing some passages in the Bible because they were too "liberal".
I know I shouldn't bother. . .

Since most evangelicals view the bible as being inerrant it would be interesting to know what “changing some passages” means, it would seem contradictory.

Perhaps they are merely among those who are made uncomfortable by better current understanding of Biblical Hebrew and Greek as well as better exegesis of biblical passages.
 

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If we can learn anything from Hitler and Nazi Germany, its that fear of retaliation can cause good people, even if in majority, to fall silent.
 

nottyboi

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There should be a protest in front of the mosque... with signs like - ROT IN HELL WAQAS AND MUHAMMAD PARVEZ. and AQSA PARVEZ WAS MURDERED and CHILDREN ARE NOT POSSESSIONS.
 

luckyjackson

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That is not an accurate quote. In the same passage, both the man and woman are stoned in the event of adultery.
Whew. Thank goodness you straightened us out on that. For a second I thought we the recommended action might've been barbaric.
 
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