The United States Must Not Be Part of Israel's Unlawful War on Iran

Frankfooter

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This is far from the 1st time princess TACO has defied congress.
Libya, Syria then he vetoed congress for holding MBS accountable for chopping a journalist into pieces, then attacked Iran without approval.
And Yemen, the rapist in chief also killed a lot of people in Yemen.
 

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AOC will be lucky not to get deported by the end of the year. ICE is already going after Democrats as the incident in Brooklyn showed.

Trump wants to be Generalissimo or at least have as many mandates as FDR. Only suckers and losers use wheelchairs.
 

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SAVAK - Wikipedia

In March 1955, the Army colonel was "replaced with a more permanent team of five career Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officers, including specialists in covert operations, intelligence analysis, and counterintelligence, including Major General Herbert Norman Schwarzkopf who "trained virtually all of the first generation of SAVAK personnel". In October 1956, news of the intended establishment of an agency was reported by state media and in 1965, this agency was reorganized and given the name Sazeman-e Ettela'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (SAVAK).[12][13] These in turn were replaced by SAVAK's own instructors in 1965.[14][15]
 
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AOC appears to be wrong, as the President has the power to launch emergency responses. So facially, Trump and the GOP will argue that he had to respond with overwhelming speed to the Iranian nuclear threat.

Where it will fall apart is that the evidence to support Iranian nuclear potential development probably simply doesn't exist. This will turn out to be an even bigger case of "fake WMD's" than Dubya's Iraq bullshit.

The American people are not as warlike as they were 20 years ago because there has been no equivalent to 9/11 from Iran. So I am expecting massive political blowback to the strike, including from the Right.
Well, the MAGA base are definitely not pleased with how Trump has involved the USA in this conflict.
Several Republicans including MTG are also opposed to it. We know that Speaker Johnson will refuse to bring up this debate in Congress.
The only time that Trump will be held to account will probably be after the Mid Terms when the Republicans are bound to get a spanking!!
 

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One person. Let us know when the majority say something. Your article even says "splintered" as in divided.

In 2001 Congress gave increased powers to the president. They haven't rescinded it.
Splintered mainly with the Republicans and a couple of Democrats!! But Chuck Schumer who was silent, as this article stated, has now broken his silence, and is calling for a vote in the Senate:


Those powers were only in an Emergency. As I stated in the previous post, the Intel Agencies and even Trump plus his cabinet members will be held to account after the mid terms, when both Congress could flip back to the Democrats. Have to give AOC credit for it, as she no doubt will push for it!!
 

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There will be no war unless Iran starts attacking ships in the gulf. They got away it for too many years.
 

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'People have been brainwashed': Marjorie Taylor Greene slams Fox News propaganda

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) turned against Fox News and accused the outlet of brainwashing viewers into supporting a war against Iran.

"We've watched for decades, propaganda news," Greene told Matt Gaetz in an interview on One America News this week. "I'll call out Fox News and the New York Post. They're known to be the Neocon Network News."

"We have propaganda news on our side, just like the left does," she added. "And the American people have been brainwashed into believing that America has to engage in these foreign wars in order for us to survive."

Greene also took on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

"Prime Minister Netanyahu said, I saw on video, he said today that America first is America dead," she explained. "And that sounds like a threat to me. And I completely, completely disagree with him on that."

"In order for America to not be dead, it's to stay America first," she added. "It is not anti-Semitic to say that we do not want to go to war against Iran or any other country. That is not anti-Semitic at all. It's actually rational, it's sane, and it's loving to people all over the world."


I agree with her for once..............................................ROTFLMAO!!
 
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'It’s supposed to be America First': Trump backers revolt as US strikes spark MAGA infighting


Followers of the Make America Great Again movement, including vocal supporters of President Donald Trump, are voicing their frustration with the president after he launched a strike Saturday on Iranian nuclear sites.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post Saturday. “All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE! Thank you for your attention to this matter.”



As Financial Times reports, former chief White House strategist Steve Bannon told his podcast listeners “shortly after the strikes” that “an overwhelming majority of the people [in the US] don’t want to get involved in any of this.”


Bannon accuses Israel of “essentially [forcing] President Trump’s hand” in the escalating conflict.

“A lot of people I know that are Israel supporters are going to say — why are we doing the heavy lift here and why are we engaging in combat operations in a war that’s a war of choice?” Bannon asked.

Rightwing podcaster Theo Von told his followers “it just feels like we’re working for Israel,” Financial Times reports.

“I felt like it was supposed to be America First,” Von said. “… I think to a lot of people it’s . . . you just start to feel very disillusioned pretty quickly . . . in our leaders.”


Matthew Boyle, Washington bureau chief of rightwing populist news website Breitbart, said Trump had a lot of explaining to do supporters in his MAGA base who would have preferred the US to stay out of the war.“He’s got to win this movement over and bring them with him, and take proactive steps to do that,” he said. “He’s got to win that trust back from people.”

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), who Politico reports "has clashed with Trump and is one of the most vocal Republican detractors of U.S. involvement in Iran," said the president's attack "is not [c]onstitutional."

Still, as Politico reports, some “Republican skeptics of U.S. military action against Iran [are] largely falling in line” with the president.

“Iran gave President Trump no choice,” conservative Charlie Kirk wrote in a tweet. “For a decade he has been adamant that Iran will never get a nuclear weapon. Iran decided to forego diplomacy in pursuit of a bomb. This is a surgical strike, operated perfectly. President Trump acted with prudence and decisiveness.”



Former Trump attorney general pick Matt Gaetz likewise praised the president as “the Peacemaker.”

“President Trump basically wants this to be like the Solimani strike — one and done,” Gaetz claimed. “No regime change war. Trump the Peacemaker!
 

mandrill

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There will be no war unless Iran starts attacking ships in the gulf. They got away it for too many years.
That's the obvious response - closing the Straits of Hormuz. Iran can strangle oil imports and bring the Western economy to a standstill.
 

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Splintered mainly with the Republicans and a couple of Democrats!! But Chuck Schumer who was silent, as this article stated, has now broken his silence, and is calling for a vote in the Senate:


Those powers were only in an Emergency. As I stated in the previous post, the Intel Agencies and even Trump plus his cabinet members will be held to account after the mid terms, when both Congress could flip back to the Democrats. Have to give AOC credit for it, as she no doubt will push for it!!
They purposefully left the definition of emergency vague. It was a bipartisan law they put in for Bush. No sunset clause. Congress gave this to the Presidency.

Now we are reaping this.
 

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Well, the MAGA base are definitely not pleased with how Trump has involved the USA in this conflict.
Several Republicans including MTG are also opposed to it. We know that Speaker Johnson will refuse to bring up this debate in Congress.
The only time that Trump will be held to account will probably be after the Mid Terms when the Republicans are bound to get a spanking!!
Also depends on whether the dems stand up or just continue speaking for the rich.
 

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T.O.
That's the obvious response - closing the Straits of Hormuz. Iran can strangle oil imports and bring the Western economy to a standstill.
Most of that oil is shipped east. The mullahs would be fucking up the chinese economy first while shooting themselves in the foot with great accuracy.
 
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