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The Universe Is Made of Tiny Bubbles Containing Mini-Universes, Scientists Say

The Hof

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I agree with your first statement, however nobody judges you. That is a very selfish, egotistical thing to say and what takes us further away from achieving full consciousness and awareness. It’s like saying be good to receive a reward or pray so you can go to heaven bullshit or treat others how you want to be treated. It is a control tactic invented by humans through the exploitation of our faith in god which undermines our own potential because we try to control others. Why can’t we just accept people and stop changing and manipulating them to become how we believe. Why not just let the people figure it out on their own within the confines of our society and governance structure and just BE who they think they are. Let people dig inside their own core and figure it out on their own regardless how long it takes.

God is infinite and in everything and everywhere. We are just a spiritual division of the infinite and live infinite until we become fully aware we are a division of god and if you keep digging will realize you are god. What happens then once you realize this. I think we just keep repeating the process and keep dividing and refining the spirit through our infinite reincarnations and infinite lifetimes not just on earth but anywhere there is life. Presently we are spirits having a human experience and refining our spirits and becoming more aware and conscious.

I am still not there to fully believe that we are god, however I understand the logic. I am happy accepting we are all part of god. I know this because each time I feel love for some one or some thing I feel god like a warm blanket giving me comfort, harmony and making it all make sense.
Interesting thoughts, I’m just a little lost on the egotistical reference. If choosing to live by one’s own parameters regardless of all the possible options is egotistical, guilty as charged, but then I’ll always trust a man with an internal compass before all.
 

The Hof

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I am not using giving up in the sense of not wanting to live. I am saying giving up the pursuit of scientific mysteries.

If you are religious, you accept that god created the universe, no deeper explanation is warranted. If you believe in simulation theory, you accept that the universe started when the simulation began, no deeper explanation is warranted.

The fermi Paradox, if you are religious then god just wanted to create us and did not want to create alien life, if you believe in simulation theory then the simulator only cares to simulate us and not aliens. If you believe in neither, then there is motivation to invest into new telescopes, there is a new telescope that is comming online soon that can see the atmosphere of other planets in other solar systems. If we see wack stuff like CFCs in the atmosphere of another planet then we know with certainty that there is intelligent life on that planet.

Simulation theory puts an upper bound to what knowledge is available to us. The LHC particle accelerator, costs ~5 billion, the next bigger accelerator will cost 10 billion, our ability to absorb those costs is based on the dream that we can find deep truths about reality.

My bad if I was unclear. I didn’t assume giving up as anything fatal, and I believe my scepticism is actually the bedrock of scientific pursuit. Scientific mystery isn’t only incredible, I also don’t think it’s incompatible with theological mystery. I’m not religious myself, but anyone who calls themselves a scientist can’t reject religion because science is as much about disproving as it is proving and I haven’t read the paper that’s disproved anything yet.
 
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