Thinking of leaving Canada. Anyone else?

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My family moved to Canada when I was one. I have always been proud to call myself Canadian. I still love Canada, but the relationship has gotten a bit rocky. Toronto very much feels like a big city and there is a lot that comes with being that. I am only speaking for myself and about how I am feeling. Many of you will not feel the same.
I am not young anymore, I am tired of the struggle. I am tired of working a job I hate because of the good benefits and pension plan. I am tired of the crowds, the noise and the ugliness. I am 3 years away from retirement and I will be 58. Now, I am thinking about what happens next. I'm divorced, the kids are grown and I have a small circle of friends.
Canada has become too expensive. It's getting hard just to keep up. I won't be able to stop working the ways things are going. This won't be me but, I see seniors still working or collecting empty bottles just to make it. I am killing myself for the privilege of living in a city that is decaying around me. I started to look elsewhere. My priorities were safety and cost. I have an EU passport, but the exchange rate from Canadian to Euro is bit much. South America, outside of a handful of countries has their safety issues. That lead me to Asia, South East Asia. I went to Hua Hin Thailand to see if it was a place I could retire to, I will be going back for a longer stay in February. First I spent a bit of time in Bangkok. A city of 12 million and there was order. No yelling, no one on the subway drinking alcohol, no one with their phone on speaker. Respect and order amid the chaos. I think I found my next home. I know nowhere is perfect, but a beer and a beach alongside respect and order sounds good to me.
Thanks if you made it this far. Does anyone else feel the way I do? Does anyone have their place, their Zihuatanejo?
 
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TORONTOlooking

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My family moved to Canada when I was one. I have always been proud to call myself Canadian. I still love Canada, but the relationship has gotten a bit rocky. Toronto very much feels like a big city and there is a lot that comes with being that. I am only speaking for myself and about how I am feeling. Many of you will not feel the same.
I am not young anymore, I am tired of the struggle. I am tired of working a job I hate because of the good benefits and pension plan. I am tired of the crowds, the noise and the ugliness. I am close to retirement; I will be 58. Now I am thinking about what happens next. I'm divorced, the kids are grown and I have a small circle of friends.
Canada has become too expensive. It's getting hard just to keep up. I won't be able to stop working the ways things are going. This won't be me but, I see seniors still working or collecting empty bottles just to make it. I am killing myself for the privilege of living in a city that is decaying around me. I started to look elsewhere. My priorities were safety and cost. I have a EU passport, but the exchange rate from Canadian to Euro is bit much. South America, outside of a handful of countries has their safety issues. That lead me to Asia, South East Asia. I went to Hua Hin Thailand to see if it was a place I could retire to, I will be going back for a longer stay in February. First I spent a bit of time in Bangkok. A city of 12 million and there was order. No yelling, no one on the subway drinking alcohol, no one with their phone on speaker. Respect and order amid the chaos. I think I found my next home. I know nowhere is perfect, but a beer and a beach alongside respect and order sounds good to me.
Thanks if you made it this far. Does anyone else feel the way I do? Does anyone have their place, their Zihuatanejo?
 
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Yup, me too. I will travel to some places for a few days then another , then another for a couple of months to see if I would like to move there then see a tax lawyer about taxes , OHIP stuff like that as I would now be a out of country Canadian. Probably stay on this side of the pond but I am unsure
 

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Searching for utopia never ends well
I'm not searching for Utpoia, just for something better. I do agree with you though. The reason most fail is because of unacheivable expectations or they bring their baggage with them. I know my city, I know my job. Everything is the same every day. I want challenges and having to learn a new way as opposed to running on autopilot. If it doesn't work out I can always come back to free Healthcare, oh well, lol. Also, I realize I am sounding like Edward Norton in Fight Club, but I think I would be better suited for a fuck club. 😁
 
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My family moved to Canada when I was one. I have always been proud to call myself Canadian. I still love Canada, but the relationship has gotten a bit rocky. Toronto very much feels like a big city and there is a lot that comes with being that. I am only speaking for myself and about how I am feeling. Many of you will not feel the same.
I am not young anymore, I am tired of the struggle. I am tired of working a job I hate because of the good benefits and pension plan. I am tired of the crowds, the noise and the ugliness. I am 3 years away from retirement and I will be 58. Now, I am thinking about what happens next. I'm divorced, the kids are grown and I have a small circle of friends.
Canada has become too expensive. It's getting hard just to keep up. I won't be able to stop working the ways things are going. This won't be me but, I see seniors still working or collecting empty bottles just to make it. I am killing myself for the privilege of living in a city that is decaying around me. I started to look elsewhere. My priorities were safety and cost. I have an EU passport, but the exchange rate from Canadian to Euro is bit much. South America, outside of a handful of countries has their safety issues. That lead me to Asia, South East Asia. I went to Hua Hin Thailand to see if it was a place I could retire to, I will be going back for a longer stay in February. First I spent a bit of time in Bangkok. A city of 12 million and there was order. No yelling, no one on the subway drinking alcohol, no one with their phone on speaker. Respect and order amid the chaos. I think I found my next home. I know nowhere is perfect, but a beer and a beach alongside respect and order sounds good to me.
Thanks if you made it this far. Does anyone else feel the way I do? Does anyone have their place, their Zihuatanejo?
Sounds like you're looking for a place like Singapore.
 
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Order isn't exactly something you'd find in the developing world.
Also healthcare as you get older may be something to consider.
Thailand and Vietnam are quickly developing and health care in Thailand's bigger cities is solid. There is a different vibe there that I connected with. When I say order, I don't mean Singapore or Islamic state order, I mean things moved seamlessly and without drama.
 
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La la land
A guy told me once his dad moved back and forth every three years from the old country.
 

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Canada also?
We're not quite there yet. I can still afford to eat and pay my mortgage. And see the occasional lady, so things can't be that bad, lol. Thank goodness for those beautiful ladies.
 
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Why did Canafdians allow things to deteriorate to such a point? Why did they keep re-electing the same politicians who kept sockin' it to them? Why have only two political parties basically been in power from the beginning?
 
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The Fox

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In reality, it’s difficult to leave. The departure tax would be challenging. The best option is to sign a lease agreement with a friend or family. This can be at zero dollars. This gives you a formal address for CRA and then you’re free to live anywhere. You’ll still be Canadian and have access to the benefits.
 

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Thailand has on average a military coup every 10 years for the past century. They are overdue for another one,
 

Mr Deeds

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I tried retirement 2 years ago moved to Ecuador very inexpensive country agreeable weather, beautiful beaches, approachable young women. The problem was within about 2 months of being down there I was bored to tears the expats that I met were basically brain dead,their whole day was all about when the bars open. So I came home. I've traveled extensively probably more than 50 countries but I've always looked forward to coming home. Yes Canada is expensive and the weather isn't great 4 months of the year but I'd rather live and die here than anywhere else
 

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Canada is not perfect for sure. When this kind of conversation starts I always ask, what country are you moving to that is better than Canada that will let you in?

All the "best places to live" surveys show up as Canada in top 5 or at worst top 10

Unless you have some kind of heritage link to another country on those lists I just don't know (or understand) why they are letting someone in. Do you bring some special skills?

It's similar with people trying to get INTO Canada it's not as easy as some lead you to believe that immigrants are flooding into the country
 
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Give it a lot of thought first...South East Asia seems to be the new hub for expats... most of my retired buddies have bought beach front property for the range of 150k to 200k CAD in the Philippines they are happy and enjoy the life...one thing though is health care isn't free and could get very expensive in those places. and also these are islands so help or get into the better hospitals could be challenging. food is cheap, women are readily available and love them some foreigners...you have a beach front property, you have pussy for free every night...there are a lot of Canadians and Americans in Cebu (best food best beaches best bitches) Avoid Manila (too many scammers)
 

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Personally I'd rather just winter vacay to many of these places mentioned but keep my primary in Canada or USA.
The other thing to consider is your social happiness.
It's very difficult to reproduce long term friendships as an adult in another country and once you make the move to some foreign land and get over the excitement, and your mind's focus on the ambitions of accomplishing the tasks of moving and settling.....you'll realize you have no friends like you do back home (assuming you have friends).
Relying on communities of expats...meh, don't count on that being fulfilling socially.
 

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I looked into leaving Canada a few years ago. The taxes I would have to pay when I collapsed my investments would be crushing. Plus I don't want to go to a 3rd world country so any exchange rate would most likely be a loss. Health care insurance would also be expensive.
Maybe look at moving to a smaller city when I want to move from a house to a apartment or a small town house.

So here I stay getting it up the ass by the liberals every day.:mad:
 
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