Tipping Etiquette

[Bale]

Are you obligated to tip the person at the bar who takes your order for takeout?
I usually don't since all they do is take payment and put the food in a bag.

For delivery guys, how much do you typically tip them, especially now that restaurants automatically add $3-5 for delivery service -- not sure if any of that even goes to the driver.

For SPs I often tip $20-80 for exceptional service, even on top of any gifts I may bring them. SPing is more demanding physically and emotionally than bartending and waitressing is. And tipping ladies that you really appreciate helps them reach their outside goals faster, that's my line of thinking.

 

[genintoronto]

$100 for a days work is utopia to many people. $300 is a dream. If you are somewhere in that range be very humble, and happy, that you have something that can accumulate that income and don't ask for more. If 'more' comes, take it and be very thankful, but if you attempt to solicit more (when it's really uncalled for), I may call greedy.

I'm sorry, but I don't see why I should be "very humble" because I manage to make $300 or more on a day work of sucking cocks and fucking strangers. Maybe the money I make is a dream for most people, but most people wouldn't want to do or be able to do the work I do for it.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm certainly not complaining about the money I make, and I'm happy to be able to make that money. And there are certainly a lot of people who work way worse jobs than mine in horrible conditions for a fraction of the money I make. But there are also a lot of people making way more money than I do (most of my clients), and I don't see anyone telling the bankers, lawyers, traders, consultants, etc. to be "humble" and grateful for what they make and not expect or want more.

 

[SweetSerenity]

Are you obligated to tip the person at the bar who takes your order for takeout?
I usually don't since all they do is take payment and put the food in a bag.

For delivery guys, how much do you typically tip them, especially now that restaurants automatically add $3-5 for delivery service -- not sure if any of that even goes to the driver.

For SPs I often tip $20-80 for exceptional service, even on top of any gifts I may bring them. SPing is more demanding physically and emotionally than bartending and waitressing is. And tipping ladies that you really appreciate helps them reach their outside goals faster, that's my line of thinking.

You need to come visit me sometime, I'll give you something worth a tip
In all seriousness though, it really depends on the individual SP as to whether or not it is physically demanding. Some girls will only see one or two clients in their entire day, whereas others will see more. And as it has been pointed out, some of the girls charge $250/hour and they make %100 of that, because they are independant. That is cash as well, and therefore is not taxed.
A waitress/bartender is on their feet the whole shift, constantly moving around. Overall it is more consistently strenuous on the body. On top of that their income is taxed, so while they might make a decent amount in tips, that really only covers the amount they lost that paycheck due to income tax more often than not.
No, you are not obligated to tip take-out people. As you said, all they do is take the money and hand you the food. For that the tips are almost always already included in the price of the food. For delivery I usually throw in whatever change is in my pocket at the time. I've been known to give anywhere between $3 and $15, just because they caught me on a good day.

 

[Toke]

I'm sorry, but I don't see why I should be "very humble" because I manage to make $300 or more on a day work of sucking cocks and fucking strangers. Maybe the money I make is a dream for most people, but most people wouldn't want to do or be able to do the work I do for it.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm certainly not complaining about the money I make, and I'm happy to be able to make that money. And there are certainly a lot of people who work way worse jobs than mine in horrible conditions for a fraction of the money I make. But there are also a lot of people making way more money than I do (most of my clients), and I don't see anyone telling the bankers, lawyers, traders, consultants, etc. to be "humble" and grateful for what they make and not expect or want more.

I'm not trying to say, "you better be happy with what you make," as I understand what you do to EARN it. While 'humble' may have been too strong of a word, my point is that I am put off by some who think that they should make extra on top of an already 'more than livable' income. I apologize if the tone of my post came off as harsh, but I am totally put off by people asking for more than what their work is worth. This is not an SP bash. I've said the same about many professions. I guess what I was trying to say is that it is bad from for someone to ask/solicit/advertise that they want/expect a tip for a service that is relatively 'well paid'. Take it as an industry; or take it as the Poster in question.

 

[james t kirk]

I'm sorry, but I don't see why I should be "very humble" because I manage to make $300 or more on a day work of sucking cocks and fucking strangers. Maybe the money I make is a dream for most people, but most people wouldn't want to do or be able to do the work I do for it.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm certainly not complaining about the money I make, and I'm happy to be able to make that money. And there are certainly a lot of people who work way worse jobs than mine in horrible conditions for a fraction of the money I make. But there are also a lot of people making way more money than I do (most of my clients), and I don't see anyone telling the bankers, lawyers, traders, consultants, etc. to be "humble" and grateful for what they make and not expect or want more.

There are lots of crappy jobs out there you probably can't imagine.

Based on an hourly rate of $250.00 per hour, that translates into $520,000 per year take home (since I highly doubt you pay taxes, or at least all the taxes you should pay - that's a pretax annual salary of about $750,000 a year.)

Now I realize that you don't make nearly that because you don't work 40 hours a week, however, taken as a yearly salary - that's the income bracket your trade is in.

That's more than those bankers, lawyers, traders and consultants you are mentioning. It's also more than the Prime Minister of Canda, more than the Chief of Cardiology at any hospital in Canada.

Goes to show you what society values.

 

[The Options Menu]

If I get really shitty service, I don't leave a dime. I have no problem with that.

Poor service - 10% or less

Good service - 15%. Pretty much standard. I expect good service.

Really exceptional service - 20% I'm not even sure I know how I would define really exceptional service. Perhaps if I ask the server which is better, the crab or the salmon and they told me - the salmon, the crab is frozen, thus saving me a mediocre dining experience. (I hate when you ask a server what is good and they say, "It's all good" when they know damn well it's not. When I hear "it's all good" I usually say, "no it's not", or "wrong answer".)

The local Sunset Grill - 20 to 25% (see above)

I pretty much follow this myself.

 

[The Options Menu]

But there are also a lot of people making way more money than I do (most of my clients), and I don't see anyone telling the bankers, lawyers, traders, consultants, etc. to be "humble" and grateful for what they make and not expect or want more.

Plenty of us will tell them, it's just that we don't really count, and our voice doesn't tend to get heard outside of the yapping mob at the end of the media piece on crisis or scandal de jour.

 

[Jimi Wasabi]

My wife is a bartender and she is a strong believer in Karma!

If we receive very bad service (which is extremely rare, I might add...) we will only leave 15% and my wife will write the server a note explaining why he/ she only rec'd 15%.

What? In restaurants 15% is standard for good service. Above and beyond or exceptional service will get you 20%. 10% or nothing for poor service (depends on the situation). However, for years now there has been a quiet movement by servers to move the standard to 20%.

But hey, your money, your decision.

 

[Bale]

Since tax is 13%, shouldn't that be the 'Good Service' standard now instead of 15%?

 

[The Options Menu]

What? In restaurants 15% is standard for good service.

Mind you, there is regional variation there. 15% is standard on OK service here in the GTA, the Ottawa region, up to about Barrie, and in the city rich portion of the Southern panhandle of Ontario, but if you go one orbit out from that you can knock off 5% in the rural part of Southern Ontario and the developed corridors leading out of the GTA, and if you get right out into the boonies tipping actually becomes optional.

My family lives in the boonies and when I visit GTA tipping regularly gets my money returned with the waitress thinking that I misread the bill, and attracts stares of horror from my family. The flip side is worse, when my family is here they often tip like cheap bastards... Regional differences.

 

[canonabcde]

For me, 20% is standard for restaurant, 15 % is standard for service such as hair cut etc.. I alway pay tip, even with a poor service.

I paid $10 USD tip for a cup of coffee which was worth only $4 USD in Santa Ana, California last year. So, you know how beautiful she is. She is so cute and she is Vietnamese girl.

 

[Cyberfeab]

I'm sorry, but I don't see why I should be "very humble" because I manage to make $300 or more on a day work of sucking cocks and fucking strangers. Maybe the money I make is a dream for most people, but most people wouldn't want to do or be able to do the work I do for it.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm certainly not complaining about the money I make, and I'm happy to be able to make that money. And there are certainly a lot of people who work way worse jobs than mine in horrible conditions for a fraction of the money I make. But there are also a lot of people making way more money than I do (most of my clients), and I don't see anyone telling the bankers, lawyers, traders, consultants, etc. to be "humble" and grateful for what they make and not expect or want more.

When was the last time a banker, lawyer, trader or consultant was tipped?

I don't mean insider trading incidentally.

 

[Moraff]

For delivery guys, how much do you typically tip them, especially now that restaurants automatically add $3-5 for delivery service -- not sure if any of that even goes to the driver.

Depends... I'll usually tip them a couple bucks.... especially if its a place I use often. Now if the weather is really shitty and I'm ordering in I'll tip more.

Like you I don't know how much of the 'delivery fee' goes to the driver. Generally I go with the ones that offer free delivery anyways, though they're getting hard to find.

 

[Moraff]

But please, please, when you're leaving a tip at a restaurant, please do not leave small coins (pennies, dimes, nickels). Round it up at least to the next quarter. You won't go broke. But at many restaurants, pennies go into the trash, or at best into a general collection jar, since they just get in the way. (If you're paying by credit or debit card, then it doesn't matter.)

I'm sorry... if a server finds the physical makeup of my tip to be unsatisfactory they can hand it back to me. If they want to throw some of it away... again that's their prerogative and not my problem.

That being said I do generally try not to tip with small coins.

 

[Cycleguy007]

But at many restaurants, pennies go into the trash, or at best into a general collection jar, since they just get in the way. (If you're paying by credit or debit card, then it doesn't matter.)

That's what happens at Mrs. Cycleguy's bar... the pennies go into the ****** Fund. (My youngest daughter's name) and once every month or so, my daughters spends an hour rolling them up and I take them to the bank for her. She usually gets about $20- $25 a month. And you'll never guess what she does with the money.... She buys presents for other people!!

 

[papasmerf]

That's what happens at Mrs. Cycleguy's bar... the pennies go into the ****** Fund. (My youngest daughter's name) and once every month or so, my daughters spends an hour rolling them up and I take them to the bank for her. She usually gets about $20- $25 a month. And you'll never guess what she does with the money.... She buys presents for other people!!

Now that is sweet.

 

[Spanglerdoo]

I'm sorry, but I don't see why I should be "very humble" because I manage to make $300 or more on a day work of sucking cocks and fucking strangers. Maybe the money I make is a dream for most people, but most people wouldn't want to do or be able to do the work I do for it.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm certainly not complaining about the money I make, and I'm happy to be able to make that money. And there are certainly a lot of people who work way worse jobs than mine in horrible conditions for a fraction of the money I make. But there are also a lot of people making way more money than I do (most of my clients), and I don't see anyone telling the bankers, lawyers, traders, consultants, etc. to be "humble" and grateful for what they make and not expect or want more.

I agree with you 1000% .

 

[Spanglerdoo]

When was the last time a banker, lawyer, trader or consultant was tipped?

I don't mean insider trading incidentally.

Its very common for business men/woman to give gifts to other men/woman in business when it makes or brakes a deal .It happens everyday .Its not always a monetary gift but it may be merchandise that can be sold for cash .So essentially its equivalent to a tip .For an example ,If you give me that __ account ,we will throw in a plasma t.v and box tickets to every game.

 

[Moraff]

Its very common for business men/woman to give gifts to other men/woman in business when it makes or brakes a deal .It happens everyday .Its not always a monetary gift but it may be merchandise that can be sold for cash .So essentially its equivalent to a tip .

But it's also rarely anywhere even close to 15% of the transaction.

 

[james t kirk]

Its very common for business men/woman to give gifts to other men/woman in business when it makes or brakes a deal .It happens everyday .Its not always a monetary gift but it may be merchandise that can be sold for cash .So essentially its equivalent to a tip .For an example ,If you give me that __ account ,we will throw in a plasma t.v and box tickets to every game.

Actually, it's the reverse.

The service provider will take the client to lunch, dinner, hockey tickets, gifts (alcohol or gift basket at Xmas) in order to foster good will between the service provider and the client who is spending the money. Sometimes, you can buy yourself allot of forgiveness by taking a client to lunch a few times.

So, in the sex for hire industry, the women should be giving gifts to the male clients in order to entice the males to continue spending their money with that woman instead of some other.