Toronto police officer on paid suspension for 11 years could finally be fired

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** Toronto police fired Const. Ioan-Florin Floria on Monday, but he is set to appeal that decision.

Toronto police officer on paid suspension for 11 years could finally be fired

Const. Ioan-Florin Floria was found guilty of 4 counts of professional misconduct

Stephen Davis · CBC News · Posted: Jun 04, 2018 4:00 AM ET

A Toronto police officer who has been collecting a public service paycheque during a roughly 11-year suspension will learn his fate today.

Const. Ioan-Florin Floria was arrested in 2007, accused by his employer of blocking a kidnapping investigation and using his position to aid a criminal organization.

Floria was cleared in 2012 on six criminal charges. Last year, he was found guilty of four counts of professional misconduct under the Police Services Act: insubordination, breach of confidence and two counts of discreditable conduct.

He told CBC News he's anxious going into Monday's sentencing.

I'm nervous about going in front of them.
- Const . Ioan-Florin Floria

"I can't sleep at night," Floria, 45, said in a phone interview. "I'm nervous about the whole system; I'm nervous about going in front of them and listening and ... me being put down."

Floria has remained on paid suspension throughout the criminal and disciplinary proceedings. He earned $102,527.87 plus benefits in 2017, according to Toronto Police Services Board data.

An Ontario law requires suspended officers continue to be paid in most cases. The province passed new policing legislation earlier this year that would allow unpaid suspensions in more circumstances, but it has yet to be implemented.

A hearing officer for the Toronto Police Service Disciplinary Hearings Office will decide which of several possible penalties will be applied. The prosecution has asked that Floria be fired; the officer's lawyer says he should be demoted and possibly lose some pay.

Floria said he plans to appeal if he's dismissed.

Disciplinary hearing

Floria's disciplinary hearing heard testimony over several months in 2016. Among those testifying was "S.T.," who claimed he was kidnapped outside a Toronto gym in 2005.

The man, whose identity is protected by a publication ban, said his captors beat and tortured him. He said they released him after claiming his boss in the drug trade had paid a ransom.

S.T. said he reported his kidnapping to Floria, a traffic cop and someone he considered a friend. S.T. told the tribunal that Floria promised to investigate, and met with him, a friend, and his brother several times, even providing S.T's brother surveillance images that he gathered during his purported investigation.

"I told him exactly what had happened," S.T. said at the tribunal, speaking through a Romanian interpreter and appearing via videolink.

At Floria's criminal trial, the Crown suggested he conducted a sham investigation into S.T.'s complaint that was intended to protect two of his friends, whom the officer suspected might be involved in the kidnapping. The police disciplinary tribunal focused on questions of workplace procedure and conduct using evidence presented at the criminal trial.

"Constable Floria pretended to embark on a secretive and ultimately inadequate investigation," police prosecutor Sharon Wilmot said as she outlined the prosecution's case in April 2016.

S.T. told the tribunal that Floria asked him if he thought Stefan Karpacs and Armand Alexander might be involved. The men were friends of Floria's who were among those arrested in 2007 police drug raids and later convicted on drug trafficking charges.

S.T.'s purported kidnapping has never been solved.

'Unconscionable' behaviour

Wilmot's fellow police prosecutor argued Floria should be fired.

"Constable Floria's misconduct is absolutely unconscionable," Toronto Police Insp. Peter Callaghan said at a hearing this year.

The tribunal concluded that Floria learned of S.T.'s kidnapping but did not report it. It also found that Floria made unauthorized police database queries for information on several people, including himself and Karpacs. Floria also shared confidential police information with S.T.'s brother, who has also admitted to working in the drug trade.

The tribunal also found Floria learned of another kidnapping through Armand Alexander but did not report it. Floria later reported it when, by sheer coincidence, he was asked to help investigate the crime.

'Biggest mistake of my life'

Floria has admitted to wrongdoing but not criminal behaviour.

In a 2007 phone call intercepted by police, Floria told a friend that S.T. was "beaten up," and said his employer might penalize him for neglect of duty.

"I didn't report it," Floria said, according to a transcript of the call.

Floria also admitted in a 2007 police memo that he'd investigated the "possible assault/kidnapping" of S.T., and claimed that surveillance footage showed "no indication of fighting or struggle."

At trial, Floria acknowledged he breached police procedure, and said he regretted not filing a report on what S.T. told him.

"That's the biggest mistake of my life," he said.

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Smallcock

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An 11 year vacation with good pay for being a bad cop.
 

jcpro

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And yet, Chief after Chief find it impossible to cut a couple of points off the already out of control police budget.
 

wonkyknee

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and people keep bugging Doug Ford about where he can cut costs and improve efficiencies.

there was a teacher in the Post today that has a history of cussing and assaulting students, yet to date she's been given only 2 days without pay(knowing government regs that was probably a Saturday and Sunday) she now recently got 2 months license suspension, yet in the private sector you'd be gone long ago.
 

oldjones

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and people keep bugging Doug Ford about where he can cut costs and improve efficiencies
The report says the law that would stop his pay has already been passed; it just needs the government to finish the job and implement it. We'll be expecting your post announcing Dougie promptly did that, if he wins.
 

black booty lover

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and people keep bugging Doug Ford about where he can cut costs and improve efficiencies.

there was a teacher in the Post today that has a history of cussing and assaulting students, yet to date she's been given only 2 days without pay(knowing government regs that was probably a Saturday and Sunday) she now recently got 2 months license suspension, yet in the private sector you'd be gone long ago.

This interesting because as it relates to officer, if your criminally charged in the private sector, your employer probably wouldn't even know about it, even if found guilty unless you obviously had to serve jail time. If you were found guilty on charges with no jail time, the only issues would be if either:

A) If your company depended on you to travel internationally (they would find out you might not get across the boarder)

B) If you were looking for a new job and that employer does a criminal background check
 

DanTheMan86

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Well if he shot and killed an unarmed teen he would've gotten off Scot free. Or is that just in the states?
 

wonkyknee

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This interesting because as it relates to officer, if your criminally charged in the private sector, your employer probably wouldn't even know about it, even if found guilty unless you obviously had to serve jail time. If you were found guilty on charges with no jail time, the only issues would be if either:

A) If your company depended on you to travel internationally (they would find out you might not get across the boarder)

B) If you were looking for a new job and that employer does a criminal background check
One engineer got caught acting stupid at a TFC game. The old "grab you in the pussy" line. He lost his job. People lose their jobs in the private sector every day for behaviour un becoming. And its immediate. Even if no charges are laid.
 

apoptygma

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One engineer got caught acting stupid at a TFC game. The old "grab you in the pussy" line. He lost his job. People lose their jobs in the private sector every day for behaviour un becoming. And its immediate. Even if no charges are laid.
And his union got him his job back.
 

black booty lover

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One engineer got caught acting stupid at a TFC game. The old "grab you in the pussy" line. He lost his job. People lose their jobs in the private sector every day for behaviour un becoming. And its immediate. Even if no charges are laid.
But my point was that's only because they got caught. This same individual could have been charged with rape, and his employer might not ever know. Even if he was probably guilty but got off on some technicality, if his employer doesn't find out, he's fine.
 

Charlemagne

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One engineer got caught acting stupid at a TFC game. The old "grab you in the pussy" line. He lost his job. People lose their jobs in the private sector every day for behaviour un becoming. And its immediate. Even if no charges are laid.
He got his job back.
He said "fuck her in the pussy" btw.
 

wigglee

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and people keep bugging Doug Ford about where he can cut costs and improve efficiencies.

there was a teacher in the Post today that has a history of cussing and assaulting students, yet to date she's been given only 2 days without pay(knowing government regs that was probably a Saturday and Sunday) she now recently got 2 months license suspension, yet in the private sector you'd be gone long ago.
but the right won't crack down on cop waste because "cops are tops" and they also do the grunt work protecting the 1% from the unruly masses.
 
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