Toronto Star article: "Dubai: How not to build a city"

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nottyboi said:
I think it is pretty rich for a Toronto publication to criticize any other city. Toronto is the absolute paradigm of mediocrity.
not to people from places like Winnipeg or the 'shwa. I mean look at the bozos that run this city; Miller wouldn't know how to build a liveable exciting place in a million years. There's a reason while tourism has taken a dive here, and it's not the tourists.
 

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Dubai is an extremely walkable city. The Arab quarters, with their narrow alleys, shops and bazaars, are amazing. Colour, flavour, appealing fragrances, delicious food for dirt cheap, and completely safe. They are wonderful areas to stroll for an evening. Along the interior canals/rivers, there are broad boulevards and sidewalks, again with shops and cafes and restaurants. A great way to spend a day or an evening, and several other districts also have long, Queen Street style roads that are full of people every night of the week. Dubai reminded me of Toronto (big, clean, modern, dispersed) but with an Arabic flare to it. Definitely a must-see city.
 

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enduser1 said:
As other Western nations adopt self destructive environmental policies Dubai will be a haven of sanity.

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+1 People are pouring in from socialist leaning Europe by the thousands. Gotta love no income or sales taxes. :D
 

james t kirk

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enduser1 said:
So Dubai is having its first Bust. The city will come back. You'll see.
Especially with the Western world destroying itself with environmental regulations.

Here in Ontario, Dalton McGuinty is going to outlaw boron, an element in the periodic table that is naturally occourring in the rich alluvial soils of western Ontario. Problem is that it will wipe out most commercial realestate values with the stroke of a pen.

As other Western nations adopt self destructive environmental policies Dubai will be a haven of sanity.

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Explain to me how "Boron" is going to wipe out most commercial real estate values? I don't get that.

Also, the Environmental policies are there for a reason. If you don't like them, just look at how not having them have worked for Bejing.

http://www.outdoor-weblog.com/imgna...ut_beijing_pollution---50226711--32222127.jpg
 

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james t kirk said:
Explain to me how "Boron" is going to wipe out most commercial real estate values? I don't get that.

Also, the Environmental policies are there for a reason. If you don't like them, just look at how not having them have worked for Bejing.

http://www.outdoor-weblog.com/imgna...ut_beijing_pollution---50226711--32222127.jpg
I don't get how anyone could think a politician could outlaw an element. Do Ontario's Liberals secretly control the Periodic Table? Thank Heavens there are paranoid conservatives to save us!
 

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This article is right on the money, it takes a jab about the article about this thread too, lol


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Dubai-bashing becomes an art form
http://arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=121289&d=7&m=4&y=2009


WHY do foreign journalists love to hate Dubai? While it’s certainly true that like the rest of the planet Dubai is experiencing a downturn through no fault of its own, if you read some of the shrill headlines, the emirate is on the point of becoming a deserted wasteland. “Dubai is in danger of becoming a ruin-in-waiting” writes the Toronto Star, which describes the city as “some sheikh’s mad idea of what a metropolis should be”.

“Dubai-bashing is in fashion right now,” an official from the Standard Chartered Bank in Dubai told Time magazine. He’s right except that gleeful attacks on Dubai have been prevalent ever since the 1990s when its charms were no longer a best-kept secret.

Just look at the envy or inverted snobbery oozing out of these pre-downturn descriptions.

Dubai is like “Singapore on steroids”, wrote a staff writer with CNET News. Tim Hames writing in the Times compared Dubai to “Disney in the desert, though with a coastline”.

“Is this a new science-fiction novel from Margaret Atwood, the sequel to ‘Blade Runner’ or Donald Trump tripping on acid?” asked the author Mike Davis, who described Dubai as “an emerging dream-world of conspicuous consumption, which locals dub “supreme lifestyles”.

Hester Lacey, who wrote an article on falconry for The Independent said she went to Dubai imagining “endless gruesome shopping malls flogging designer rubbish” and was “prepared to dislike the place” but she does, rather grudgingly admit that she wished she had stayed longer to take advantage of everything there is to do.

Is there anywhere in the world that is so admired and so disliked at the same time, purely due to its aspirations to excellence? For me, Dubai will always be a miracle of innovation, foresightedness and entrepreneurship.

My very first glimpse of this incredible city was in 1975 when the newly opened Inter.Continental on the Creek was its only luxury hotel. Today, of course, there are over 300. At that time, there were very few schools and hospitals and not very many roads. It was very much an enigma then. Surrounded by sand was a Lebanese-run dress boutique that wouldn’t have looked out of place on the Avenue Montaigne, selling French fashion and sunglasses. I later wowed my friends at home wearing one of the shop’s evening gowns but when I told them I had bought it in Dubai they invariably responded with “Where? Never heard of it?”

When I finally moved to Dubai in 1983, I thought I’d died and gone to heaven. I ended up staying for 14 years, some of the best of my life. And no, this had nothing to do with shopping malls. It was more a permanent sense of endless possibility in a land that was — and is — cosmopolitan, calm, simple, yet sophisticated. Even then, overseas visitors who were bowled over with the place would usually tag their enthusiasm with, “Well, this isn’t real life”, as though “real life” somehow has to be hostile or an endless struggle against adversity. It was almost as though they were unable to conceive of “real life” being a joyful adventure.

I’m no psychic, but I won’t hesitate to predict that Dubai will emerge from this global crisis even stronger than before. Indeed, it experienced something similar during the 1990/91 Gulf War. Then, untold thousands of expatriate workers left for home, tourism dried up and companies tightened their belts. I recall my own asking us not to throw away unwanted photocopies as the backs could be used to jot down notes. In fact, things were so bad that I was asked to take two months unpaid leave. But, in those days, Dubai wasn’t a headliner so its economic struggles went relatively unnoticed.

Today’s media gloom and doom merchants of which there are many point to Dubai’s lack of oil and the fact that it is highly leveraged (which country isn’t?). They shine a spotlight on idle cranes, temporarily shelved construction projects and plunging property prices as a sign that Dubai is finished. When residents begin sleeping in their cars or under canvas as so many thousands are now doing in the US, I might believe it.

A place like Dubai that emerged from the sands to become a world-beater in just over 30 years is here to stay. Just wait until the economic tide turns when I’ll bet foreign speculators will be heading to Dubai hunting for bargains in their droves. In the meantime, this relative lull may not be such a bad thing. It allows Dubai to take stock and decide upon its future direction. A commission has already devised a new code of public conduct related to dress and public displays of affection more in keeping with its religious and cultural roots.

All that glitters may not be gold but Dubai is the exception that proves the rule. May it continue going for gold for a great many years to come for the benefit of its own people. And, if nothing else, to prove its hysterical media critics and other envious onlookers wrong.
 

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What's wrong with boron?

From wikipedia: "Elemental boron is nontoxic and common boron compounds such as borates and boric acid have low toxicity (approximately similar to table salt with the lethal dose being 2 to 3 grams per kilogram) and therefore do not require special precautions while handling."

And why is it bad for commercial property, but okay for residential?
 
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