Toronto toilet rebate

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I recently bought 3 high effeciency toilets that are eligble for the rebate but the guy who sold them to me said that the upgrade will likley cause my property taxes to go up. Is he right?
 

Safdar

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I highly doubt that. High efficiency toilets aren't necessarily better toilets or more expensive toilets. They are just more environmentally friendly and use less water, that's the reason for the rebate. Also property taxes aren't calculated on an individual basis from house to house(imagine what would involve). They are calculated by your home's square footage and your neighborhood and how much houses in your neighborhood have been sold for recently.
 

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I can't believe that the sales guy would say that your property taxes would go up. The water closets are designed to use less water, 1.28 gpf (4.8 lpf) vs the current 1.6 gpf (6 lpf) toilets. The only problem arising using these toilets are that the bowls don't always eject everything, especially #2 c/w toilet paper. So, you end up flushing again.
 

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Gator3x said:
I can't believe that the sales guy would say that your property taxes would go up. The water closets are designed to use less water, 1.28 gpf (4.8 lpf) vs the current 1.6 gpf (6 lpf) toilets. The only problem arising using these toilets are that the bowls don't always eject everything, especially #2 c/w toilet paper. So, you end up flushing again.

I bought a Glacier Bay Pegasus 2 Pc Dual Flush Toilet from Home Despot. Very very rarely have to do a second flush. Nice option to have a 1/2-flush when it's just liquids. I've already noticed a significant change in my water useage on my last bill. (The toilet was installed about midway through it's coverage)
 

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I installed an american standard dual flush low flow, in my basement after the old toilet cracked. Great savings and the direct flow down pressure versus the higher volume swirl takes care of up to 1000grams of solid matter in one flush. Low flows are generally considered incompatible with basements, but not in my case. I'm considering replacing the upstairs with one now.
 

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I believe he meant that if you add value to your home(like a reno), then the city has just cause to increase your taxes.
 

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I believe he meant that if you add value to your home(like a reno), then the city has just cause to increase your taxes.
If think about how many renovations are done throughout the city. Imagine what it would take to find out about all these renovations and then asses them to find out the value of the house.

Taxes are meant for the city services used. If you change a toilet or two or upgrade your flooring, this would not effect the city services used by the household. If you add an addition to your house, this will effect your taxes, because square footage is the most reasonable way to calculate taxes. The thought being the bigger the house, the more city services used.
 

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oral.com said:
I recently bought 3 high effeciency toilets that are eligble for the rebate but the guy who sold them to me said that the upgrade will likley cause my property taxes to go up. Is he right?
He's giving you a load of crap! :p
 

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oral.com said:
I recently bought 3 high effeciency toilets that are eligble for the rebate but the guy who sold them to me said that the upgrade will likley cause my property taxes to go up. Is he right?
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No he is not correct.

however when and if you sell your home and the home has been upgraded enough to justify and noticable price increase (above normal appreciation) then the taxes will increase based on the final sale price of the home.

The issue will never affect you as the current owner.
 

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Changing a toilet or two would not cause your property taxes to go up; a major reno like adding on an addition might though. I have a Kohler low flow and it is great - never a second flush. Stay away from a Toto though as I know a couple of people who have them and hate them.
 

Omnius

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No he is not correct.

however when and if you sell your home and the home has been upgraded enough to justify and noticable price increase (above normal appreciation) then the taxes will increase based on the final sale price of the home.

The issue will never affect you as the current owner.
correct me if i am wrong, but that system hasnt been around for about 10-15 yrs now, ever since market value assessment was introduced. you dont have to sell the house, in order for the assessment to go up. every couple of years or so, your house gets automatically assessed (you dont have to sell it to get its new value). so, it WILL affect you as its current owner.

as for any impact, it will affect your taxes if the city determines that it was enough to increase your property value. if you JUST got the toilets... then I would say its ok. But if it's part of a reno, then it might increase your property value, thus increasing your taxes.

and, unless things changed, by applying, you open your home to an inspector. it states (or at least, it once stated) that an inspector MAY come to confirm correct installation of the toilet (and, i am sure, to see if you had any renos done recently that the city should be aware of).

so.. there is your answer. it may, or may not, affect your taxes.
 
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