I see you finally understand Fuji-logic, sometimes known as the fine art of sucking and blowing at the same time.
Trump begins flip flopping
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Here's the logic: at the end of the day every American president will act in the strategic and economic interests of the United States. It's unfathomable that the US will allow China to lock it out of trade and influence with Pacific nations. Therefore, whatever they say on the campaign trail, when they get to the Oval Office, and they hear the hard realities from their advisors, they will support it.
The US *must* have an answer to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and China's growing influence over ASEAN. TPP is supposed to be that answer.
The Trumpsters don't because they don't like hearing what's said. That does not necessarily apply to everyone else.
Breaking News:
Donald Trump and Paul Ryan have pledged to work together on behalf of Republican nudity.
Donald Trump and Paul Ryan have pledged to work together on behalf of Republican nudity.
They do but they reject what are obvious lies. And it's still happening. On CNN several days ago three women were talking about a remark Trump made in a speech. They showed a clip several seconds long where Trump says "women get it better than men". The women were talking about this to mean that women and Hillary have it easier than men in society.
Yet when you watch his speech in context it had nothing to do with women having it better in society. He was saying that women "get it" better than men (i.e. are smarter) when it comes to knowing that hillary and the media are playing the women's card.
The lies spouted by the media are abhorrent. Theyre still trying to create drama where none exists to control the narrative. Voters - including Bernie fans - reject this, as they should.
Interesting thing I saw on CNN. Half of West Virginia Voters who voted for Bernie will vote for Trump if Bernie is not in......
I wonder what the National will end up.
The Latest Ipsos/Reid showed a Trump/Clinton matchup a dead heat with 19% undecided. And Trump ahead in Key swing states.
The protest vote is just so huge this year. I wonder how many are usually non voters. And how many traditional voters will stay home due to the choices.
I wonder what the National will end up.
The Latest Ipsos/Reid showed a Trump/Clinton matchup a dead heat with 19% undecided. And Trump ahead in Key swing states.
The protest vote is just so huge this year. I wonder how many are usually non voters. And how many traditional voters will stay home due to the choices.
Trump is a polarizing figure. His presence will likely cause a spike in voting by anybody-but-trump voters, and many traditional Republicans will stay home. The question is whether he will be able to get these lazy non voters to the polls, which in turn will depend a lot on how good of a ground game he can run, and how well funded his campaign will be.
Without a doubt Clinton will run a top notch ground game, and she has done a massive amount of fundraising to hire campaign workers to execute it and media buys to promote it.
Trump on the other hand, so far, is way behind in his ground game. He doesn't have a campaign organization to speak of and he is WAAAAAY behind in fundraising.
And no, he doesn't have the cash to self fund. He will need around a billion dollars to compete with Hillary and he doesn't seem to have that much free cash, not unless he starts a firesale of his business assets.
He still has six months to fix that, but as of now he has done hardly anything about it and doesn't seem to think it's important. He got mad when he lost some primaries to a superior ground game, but he doesn't seem to have learned how to do that himself.
The general election requires a lot more organization than the primaries and it remains to be seen whether he can get an effective organization together.
While I'm appalled that Donald Trump will be the Republican Presidential Candidate, at the same time there has been a great deal of "flip flopping" over the decades among Presidential candidates.
If anyone believes that Secretary Clinton isn't going to have to climb back towards the center from the position she has been pushed to by Senator Sanders during the primary process, I've got a Bridge to sell you!
If anyone believes that Secretary Clinton isn't going to have to climb back towards the center from the position she has been pushed to by Senator Sanders during the primary process, I've got a Bridge to sell you!
Indeed it's interesting and makes sense to my mind. Both Bernie and Trump have been railroaded by the media. Trump is not a true conservative - he's closer to Bernie than Clinton. Nobody wants another Clinton in office. The days of political dynasties in America is over this election cycle - it makes voters sick to their stomachs.
Anyway, I do hope Bernie voters vote for Trump for whatever the reasons - to spite Hillary or the political machine backing her - if the nomination is stolen from him.
Trump has not been railroaded by the media - he is where he is because of the polarizing circus freak he is. Trump has played the media to get his avid supporters but now he is leaving them behind. He is funding his campaign, his is going to the super pacs, he is going with Goldman Sachs assistance. He has jumped in after pulling the wool over the knee-jerk rightwingnuts, racists and bigots. Some are still listing reasons Trump has already disavowed. Poor suckers!
Bernie is anti - special interests/wall street but Trump is already joining them so to suggest Trump is in the same camp is very naive. The only thing that Clinton has that makes her look like a palatable candidate is the alternative - Trump ! Trump is not only a flip flop artist (just look at is morphism into a regular superpac republican) but Trump is a proven liar. Stupid provable bareface lies are crazy and most just because he is an insecure narcissist - just about the worst choice you could have as a president.
The Republican Party is suffering from a major autoimmune disease and is increasingly self destructive. They know that they cannot possibly defeat Hillary Clinton and thus are just trying to stay afloat to mitigate the carnage that Mr. Trump is inflicting on an already malignant party. After Trump looses the election, then that vain glorious fellow will become an independent or host another TV non reality show and continue to inflict damage to the Republican Party which tried repeatedly to sabotage him. Trump might even become a Democrat again. Nonetheless, Trump will probably run a very skillful and interesting campaign, bruising Hillary along the way.
Latest poll has Trump leading 45% to Clinton 42% I national poll.
And he has been leading in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania. All swing states that pretty much decide the election.
His approval rating are rising. In the last month against both Hillary and Bernie the polls show he is up 7 points.
If Clinton is the nominee she is vulnerable. Soon to be interviewed by the FBI. A new documentary at Cannes and in Theatres July 24 about the Clinton Foundation and it's financial irregularities and taking money from foreign gov'ts while she was SOS.
Clinton actually is LESS trusted in polls than Trump. And he is getting the GoP onside now.
Don't count him out. Others have and look what happened.
I don't think anybody takes this for granted anymore. You're way behind in the news and polling cycles.
Tump is far worse than Clinton or any other candidate the Republicans offered up. He has a polarized support among the Walmart crowd and rural bigots by stirring up Mexican and Muslim hatred. He is a narcissist and far to self deluded to hold the office of President. It is important that people like him so decisions will be calculated not according to peoples rights but simply popularity because it is important - that is - he will not make unpopular choices no matter how correct they are. He will never back down on obvious mistakes no matter how incorrect - he would probably initiate a war rather than loose face. Cinton could be a bad choice but Trump is a disastrous one.
Explain to me why a good percentage of Bernie supporters have said they will vote for Trump if he isn't the Democrat nominee.
I'm pretty sure I have the answer. I just want to see if you can see beyond the talking heads on TV.
