I dont think you can make this argument after 3 years.
It certainly hasn't been for a lack of trying on the part of Russia.
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It certainly hasn't been for a lack of trying on the part of Russia.
Would you say Russia was unable to beat Germany in WWII?
Would you also say the U.S. was unable to beat Japan in the
Pacific War? Given that they had to nuke Japan to win the war
you may even say the U.S. could not beat Japan on the battlefield.
The objective of Russia is not the conquest of the entire Ukraine.
If the war ends in Putin's term likely after the fall of Kyiv then no
argument has to be made to conclude Russia has beaten Ukraine.
You may still say Russian soldiers suck for having had to take so
long to win the war.
Whats the hurry? The longer this goes the more pain and discord they sow in NATO
Really?
Its not costing NATO much, but its massive for Russia.
Though it looks like those piss tapes are really paying off for Putin now.
Lol how many hundered billions has it cost NATO thus far in just aid? 380B has been pledged but that does not include all the losses to western corporations and europes soaring energy costs, as well as the hundreds of billons in military buildup
Yeah what's the hurry in admitting shame that Russia cannot beat the Ukrainians even while fielding a larger force.
One of the key goals of Russia is demilitarization, the only way to do that with some degree of durability is to kill and maim the military aged population. As long as Ukraine keeps sending them Russia will keep wiping doing that. .
WW2 isn't relevant to this conflict.
And one could say Russia only won because Germany was spread out thin, and Russia had more meat shields than the Germans did.
The US did beat Japan in WW2.
Even nuking them is a military win.
The Japanese literally surrendered to the US and signed a surrender document.
Russia hasn't won the war and even a negotiated peace would still be considered a stalemate after 3 years.
They are getting stronger, much stronger then when the war started. The war has also uncovered corruption in the military and many generals have been charged with embezzlement. The Russian military get stronger by 1000 people a day and production has grown massively.
Yet we don't see any difference in results on the field.
We see North Koreans and Africans being thrown into the meat grinder.
There are results, lots of dead Ukrainian soldiers and steady forward movement. That will do while the peace process is ongoing. Putin rather not pay for blood for what he can get at the table, either a deal or the end of US aid to Ukraine.
Correction we don't see anything that isn't propagandized in this war.
Neither side is being truthful about the losses being incurred.
Steady forward movement?
Is that why they are stuck in eastern Ukraine and allowed the Ukrainians to take a bit of land in Kursk?
Some "strategy" by Putin lmfao.
We know minimally that the Russians have not made any progress and that there are North Koreans and Africans now being conscripted into the war.
Kursk was one of those issues with corruption, the money allocated to fortify the border was embezzled, but Ukraine's losses in that battle are enormous. wars are always unpredictable. Kursk was like the Battle of the Bulge in wwii, a last gasp of a dying beast.
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Technically neither Russia nor the U.S. had won against Germany and
Japan until the end of the war declared. Prior to final victory the winning
sides were advacing through territories previously governed or conquered
by the losing sides.
By now Ukraine has lost 20% of its territories. Millions of its citizens have
fled the countries as refugees. Ukraine is now looking to diplomatic and
military interference from foreign states to curb advances of Russian invaders.
One side of the war is clearly the winning side already.
The end of the war was declared because both Germany and Japan literally surrendered.
They signed a surrender document.
That hasn't happened with Ukraine.
Ukraine is occupied with the occupiers losing so many men and material along with being occupied themselves.
I wouldn't exactly call that winning anything with a straight face.
MAGA victory is Putin’s victory. Ukraine is bleeding while USSR is coming back to life.
Would you call the side of a conflict losing people (from
civilians fleeing in millions), losing territories, losing well
trained troops that had to be replaced with the poorly trained
and suffer extensive destruction of infrastructures not losing
the war with a straight face?
Poland did not surrender to Hitler in WWII and we know who the
winner in Germany's invssion of Poland was. A war could end with
a winner and a loser who proudly refused to surrender.
