A Carney win might split the CPC into two parties, one of them WEXIT backed by Trump and more radical than the Preston Manning Reform Party.
Trump Would Rather Deal With Carney
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Wow a 25 year old pic from a costume party where he dressed as an Arab.... big deal. He got us through the covid crisis and economically we were at or above the other G7 nations. All the while upholding rights, giving a damn about the health of the planet, helping suffering people and showing that Canada still has heart.Trudeau has made a mess
Pierre has to point this out
and he is not always negative
he continually points out how Canada can be prosperous
hardly
'Look inside yourself': Carney gets snippy at reporter when pressed on conflicts of interest
“Look inside yourself,” said Carney to a reporter who said it was “very difficult to believe” he had no conflict of interest.nationalpost.com
And he is a lying bullshit artist
Carney's campaign admits to muddled messaging on pipelines, spending cuts
Carney's campaign admits to muddled messaging on pipelines, spending cuts
The Liberal leadership candidate is facing scrutiny for saying one thing in English and something different in French.
The Liberal leadership candidate is facing scrutiny for saying one thing in English and something different in French
no
I am spot on
There is a reason the moron Justin had to resign
he has been a disgrace
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If PP had done the same you Libs would have a total meltdown
You sure about that??
Trudeau is a corrupt moron who has never understood the responsibilities of the Prime Ministers office
wow ??
this is a big deal:
CASH-FOR-ACCESS SCANDAL (2016)
AGA KHAN AFFAIR (2016)
ELBOWGATE (2016)
INDIA TRIP (2018)
KOKANEE GROPE (2018)
SNC LAVALIN AFFAIR (2019)
WE CHARITY SCANDAL (2020)
BLACKFACE (2019)
THE FREEDOM CONVOY (2022)
THE TRIPS
2017: Trudeau makes his infamous “Welcome to Canada” tweet, which touched off a wave of illegal entries into Canada at illegal border crossings — most notoriously at Roxham Rd. on the Quebec/New York state border
2018: Arrest and subsequent detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou at Vancouver airport on a U.S. extradition request, a move that would result in the summary arrest of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig by the Chinese government. They would be released after 1,019 days in detention on Sept. 24, 2021, the same day Canada released Meng from custody
2017-2021: Appointment, and subsequent resignation, of Governor General Julie Payette
2019: Vice-Adm. Mark Norman affair
2020: Bill C-11, the controversial Online Streaming Act, is tabled in the House of Commons
2020: The infamous May 2020 order-in-council summarily banning thousands of semi-automatic firearms is introduced
2020: Questionable response to COVID-19 pandemic, including bungling disbursement of support money, vaccine mandates and questionable vaccine procurement
2020: ArriveCan scandal, where an $80,000 pandemic-era travel app ballooned into costing nearly $60M, and raised questions surrounding how government contracts get handed out
2021: Gen. Jonathan Vance affair
2021: Government tables bill C-21, its far-reaching and contentious gun control legislation
2021: Trudeau and cabinet abstaining from China Uighurs genocide vote
2021: A mansion belonging to property developer Wei Wei is raided by police as part of an underground gambling investigation in July 2020. Toronto Life Magazine later revealed that Wei had attended pricey Liberal party fundraisers and posed with photos with Trudeau, and was a member of a Chinese industry delegation that had connections to million-dollar donations to the Trudeau Foundation
2022: Media reports reveal the Trudeau Liberals had paid billions in consultancy fees during their time in office, including over $110 million to McKinsey & Company
2022: The Liberals and NDP sign their infamous supply and confidence agreement that would protect the minority Liberals from being toppled by non-confidence votes. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh publicly tore up the agreement last September, but kept supporting the government
2023: Media reports uncover the scale and scope of Chinese interference in Canadian affairs, including allegations of meddling in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections and threats to Canadian politicians. The PMO was given reports from intelligence officials on the meddling as early as 2017, including warnings that candidates may be part of Chinese interference attempts, but allegedly ignored the warnings
2023: The federal government announces attempts to recoup the $112,000 anti-racism grant awarded to a group associated with activist Laith Marouf, who routinely posted antisemitic material on social media
2024: Global Affairs Canada purchases $9 million condo in Manhattan for consul general
2024: Randy Boissonnault implosion — including pandemic-era federal contracts granted to a company he co-owned, and changing stories on his supposed Indigenous background
2024: Sustainable Development Technology Canada program, better known as the “green slush fund” scandal
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Mandrill is just plain a very untrustworthy person
Why is every chart from larue total bullshit?If PP had done the same you Libs would have a total meltdown
You sure about that??
I went and checked the numbers directly from the OECD.
GDP growth from 2010 to 2024 below.
Mango Mussolini realizes that PP would be a boot licker and is working to make him seem more appealing to Canadian voters via reverse psychology. Keep in mind, Trump praised PP back in January, when polls showed the Conservatives were headed for a majority. But, Carney and Trump's stupidity made this a much tighter race...So, Trump wants to give PP a leg up by pretending to endorse Carney. And, of course, all the Maple MAGAts are falling all over themselves saying this should disqualify Carney...which....doesn't really make sense...But, sure.
A Carney minority with an NDP and or Bloc coalition or a Carney majority will result in Premier Smith calling a referendum on Alberta sovereignty towards annexation by MAGA Trump’s government. The Alberta referendum will be financed and influenced by MAGA Trump.
Trump and Smith realize that a Poilievre win would dampen WEXIT sentiment, so that they have thrown PP under the bus.
Vichy Smith and Moe Trump who are MAGA operatives in Canada are working towards Trump’s ambition of seizing the Alberta Energy sector ASAP.
Canada is poised to take a major haircut in the next several months as Trump attempts to do to Canada economically what Putin has done to Ukraine militarily.
Trump is not using reverse psychology, he wants a Carney win to catalyze Alberta separation momentum. A Carney win would stir up even more the hornet‘s nest in Alberta towards annexation by Trump who wants the oil.
Damn, you called it.
I wasn't going to post this but might as well now. People can deny all they want, reality will always be reality.
Scott Moe on Instagram: "The federal government has announced equalization payments for 2025 and once again, SK, AB and BC will be helping support the rest of Canada."
946 likes, 160 comments - premierscottmoe on January 2, 2025: "The federal government has announced equalization payments for 2025 and once again, SK, AB and BC will be helping support the rest of Canada.".
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Let me leave this here for you and I will highlight a few of the key paragraphs because I know you will not read it. BTW. do you know where Carney is from?? Just asking for a friend.Damn, you called it.
I wasn't going to post this, but might as well now. People can deny all they want, reality will always be reality.
Scott Moe on Instagram: "The federal government has announced equalization payments for 2025 and once again, SK, AB and BC will be helping support the rest of Canada."
946 likes, 160 comments - premierscottmoe on January 2, 2025: "The federal government has announced equalization payments for 2025 and once again, SK, AB and BC will be helping support the rest of Canada.".
Could Alberta Leave Canada? What to Know
The largely conservative province may hold a referendum on separating from the nation in 2026, according to its premier.
time.com
"Most Albertans, according to a May 1 poll by Ottawa-based Nanos Research, believe that staying with Canada would be better for the economy. Only 1 in 10 respondents said that the province would be better off as part of the U.S."
" But leaving is not so easy as voting in favor of a referendum. Canada’s constitution does not allow unilateral separation. Following the unsuccessful referenda on separation in Quebec, the federal government enacted the Clarity Act in 2000 on how to approach future referenda on provinces seeking independence from the country. The act stipulates that the national parliament’s House of Commons determines if the referendum on a province’s independence demonstrates “a clear expression of a will by a clear majority” of the provincial population. Once determined, the provincial government can then negotiate with the federal government to amend the Canadian constitution to potentially allow its secession. "
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Shortly after Carney’s election, the Prime Minister met with Smith, who wrote in a post on X on May 2 that the two discussed measures regarding Alberta’s economy “and specific proposals for projects and legislative reforms that will significantly increase market access for Alberta oil and gas, agricultural products and other goods.” Smith described the conversation with Carney as “a positive first step.”
Carney replied to Smith’s post: “We’re both focused on bringing down the cost of living and increasing opportunities in the energy sector for hard working Albertans. I look forward to working together—to break down interprovincial trade barriers and to build one strong Canadian economy.”In her recent statement, Smith said that her provincial government will appoint a negotiating team to address those policies. She also said she will chair an “Alberta Next” panel, which will hold a series of town halls, to hear from Albertans about what they want for the future of the province."
"Smith clarified that the Albertan government will not push a vote on separating from Canada and that she personally does not support separation, but she asserted: “If there is a successful citizen-led referendum petition that is able to gather the requisite number of signatures requesting such a question to be put on a referendum, our government will respect the democratic process and include that question on the 2026 provincial referendum ballot.”"
So what we have is a POTUS, superpower wishing to annex Alberta for it‘s oil and Saskatchewan for it‘s potash. MAGA Smith has been working with Trump for a while now, preparing Alberta for sale which has becomes more blatant obvious recently as she is encouraging referendums including separation and lowering the required signature threshold which helps out her partner Trump. The deal that Trump has offered Smith cannot be matched by Carney.Let me leave this here for you and I will highlight a few of the key paragraphs because I know you will not read it. BTW. do you know where Carney is from?? Just asking for a friend.
Could Alberta Leave Canada? What to Know
The largely conservative province may hold a referendum on separating from the nation in 2026, according to its premier.
"Most Albertans, according to a May 1 poll by Ottawa-based Nanos Research, believe that staying with Canada would be better for the economy. Only 1 in 10 respondents said that the province would be better off as part of the U.S."
" But leaving is not so easy as voting in favor of a referendum. Canada’s constitution does not allow unilateral separation. Following the unsuccessful referenda on separation in Quebec, the federal government enacted the Clarity Act in 2000 on how to approach future referenda on provinces seeking independence from the country. The act stipulates that the national parliament’s House of Commons determines if the referendum on a province’s independence demonstrates “a clear expression of a will by a clear majority” of the provincial population. Once determined, the provincial government can then negotiate with the federal government to amend the Canadian constitution to potentially allow its secession. "
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Shortly after Carney’s election, the Prime Minister met with Smith, who wrote in a post on X on May 2 that the two discussed measures regarding Alberta’s economy “and specific proposals for projects and legislative reforms that will significantly increase market access for Alberta oil and gas, agricultural products and other goods.” Smith described the conversation with Carney as “a positive first step.”
Carney replied to Smith’s post: “We’re both focused on bringing down the cost of living and increasing opportunities in the energy sector for hard working Albertans. I look forward to working together—to break down interprovincial trade barriers and to build one strong Canadian economy.”In her recent statement, Smith said that her provincial government will appoint a negotiating team to address those policies. She also said she will chair an “Alberta Next” panel, which will hold a series of town halls, to hear from Albertans about what they want for the future of the province."
"Smith clarified that the Albertan government will not push a vote on separating from Canada and that she personally does not support separation, but she asserted: “If there is a successful citizen-led referendum petition that is able to gather the requisite number of signatures requesting such a question to be put on a referendum, our government will respect the democratic process and include that question on the 2026 provincial referendum ballot.”"
Carney says that Canada is “ not for sale” but Smith has already parted her legs, lubed with Alberta crude and given Trump a big opening
into Alberta with her “ up for sale sign”. The Clarity Act means nothing to Alberta which is in control of their natural resource, petrocarbons valued at over a trillion dollars.
Trump will now try to buy off the Alberta First Nations which are a big potential obstacle for Alberta leaving Canada as Moe watches eagerly.
Trump remains hell bent on destroying the Canadian economy towards annexation.
Carney was born in Ft Smith, NWT which is irrelevant to what is going on now.
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I guess when Trump said “it takes two to tango” and our new PM shot back with “Canada is NOT for sale,” that just didn’t scratch your itch for conspiracy, huh? Never mind that Trump, in a rare moment of restraint, didn’t call Carney weak, woke, or a socialist—he actually referred to him as “a great guy” and showed more respect in one press conference than he ever showed Pee Pee, Smith and Justin combined.
But let’s talk about Smith the bitch, the self-styled oil baroness of Alberta, who’s has mistaken governing for auditioning to be Trump's northern envoy. Between flirting with separation referendums which she herself says is against separation, lowering democratic thresholds like it's a clearance sale, and tossing Alberta’s autonomy around like a party favour, she’s not just playing with fire, she’s hoping Trump throws her a bone but he won't, he has no respect for Smith.
And yet, despite all that bootlicking, Carney is the one who stood in the room with Trump, held his ground, and came out earning praise. Even Dougy happily admitted that Carney crushed it. But of course, you’re still squinting through those blue-tinted Pee Pee lenses, determined to see betrayal where there was actual leadership.
It might be time for some new glasses. Or at least a better script to support your narrative.
Unless Carney can do something drastically to put pressure on Trump, nothing will be done. Trump knows this with the Liberal's past. They won't risk the wrath of the Canadians.
Trump said the US doesn't need anything from Canada. Why don't we put that to the test
Trump said the US doesn't need anything from Canada. Why don't we put that to the test
If you read again my posts, you will see that I am saying essentially the same thing as you although you are somewhat delayed in recognizing my predictions.
Carney will do his best, but he is dealing with a capricious POTUS controlling a superpower that wants to carve up Canada and take the most lucrative province, a province run by a more than MAGA friendly premier.
Carney will continue to get pummelled by Smith domestically and Trump externally.
And by the way, PP is now neutered and increasingly irrelevant.
Canada doesn’t have the cards to battle America the superpower , not economically nor militarily.
The only thing that Carney could do would be to encourage a run on the US Treasury by nations that have substantial holdings there namely Japan, China, the UK and to some extent Canada as a buffer against Trump’s on and off tariff games.
Already Trump has back off when the US Treasury recently got rocked a few weeks ago.
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Alberta separatists are only about 30% of the population, according to CBC. Though the just changed the laws so you only need 177,000 signatures to hold a referendum.
So there will be a vote but there will also be votes on other more ridiculous ideas as well.
All this will take time and whether trump is still around, Scheer replaces Pee Pee or the US goes fully fascist is just guesses at this point.
I see where you're coming from, but I think you’re overstating both Trump’s intent and Canada’s vulnerability. Yes, the U.S. is a superpower, and yes, Smith’s posture toward MAGA politics is concerning. But that doesn’t mean Trump is in a position—or has the bandwidth—to “carve up” Canada. His admiration for Carney after their meeting suggests even he recognizes a serious counterpart when he sees one.
As for Carney being “pummelled” by Smith—let’s be real. Smith has made herself a very loud domestic critic, but volume doesn’t equal impact. Carney is staying focused and measured, and that contrast is becoming clearer to voters who, for the most part, are proud of his performance yesterday. I even heard right-wingers like Lisa Raitt praising Carney's performance along with Dougy.
I disagree that Pee Pee has been sidelined unless of course, he were to lose the next Bye-election, which is highly unlikely. I suspect going forward we will see a much more easy-going, less attack-dog styled Pee Pee.
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In the photo op after the meeting Carney did perform well in front of the cameras to the extent that he rebuffed Trump’s annexation plans and that Trump remained more or less civil.
Unfortunately for Canada, I expect Trump to hit the Canadian economy with another potential devastating tariff or economic constraints within days to show that his machinations have not changed.
The duo of Smith and Trump working on Carney and more importantly the rest of Canada will drive the Canadian economy into recession this year, and if America goes into recession as well, Canada will degrade even further.
The growing uncertainty about the extent to which Alberta will dance around sovereignty will continue to shake Canada to the core.
Smith knows that Carney cannot match her demands and that the deal that Trump offers for Alberta might look increasingly more appealing very soon.
The spectre of transfer payment dependent Quebec getting a haircut is increasing now.
Blanchet was correct in saying that Canada is an artificial country and Quebec and Alberta with their respective relationships with Ottawa continuously prove this. Canada is a federation of provinces with a weak central government with Quebec never having signed the constitution and Alberta circumventing the constitution. As such an opportunistic foreign plunderer like Trump is able to exploit this flaw and weakness in Canada towards annexation.
We do not know exactly what was discussed between Carney and Trump behind closed doors do we ?
In the photo op after the meeting Carney did perform well in front of the cameras to the extent that he rebuffed Trump’s annexation plans and that Trump remained more or less civil.
Unfortunately for Canada, I expect Trump to hit the Canadian economy with another potential devastating tariff or economic constraints within days to show that his machinations have not changed.
The duo of Smith and Trump working on Carney and more importantly the rest of Canada will drive the Canadian economy into recession this year, and if America goes into recession as well, Canada will degrade even further.
The growing uncertainty about the extent to which Alberta will dance around sovereignty will continue to shake Canada to the core.
Smith knows that Carney cannot match her demands and that the deal that Trump offers for Alberta might look increasingly more appealing very soon.
The spectre of transfer payment dependent Quebec getting a haircut is increasing now.
Blanchet was correct in saying that Canada is an artificial country and Quebec and Alberta with their respective relationships with Ottawa continuously prove this. Canada is a federation of provinces with a weak central government with Quebec never having signed the constitution and Alberta circumventing the constitution. As such an opportunistic foreign plunderer like Trump is able to exploit this flaw and weakness in Canada towards annexation.
