Two Biological Males Allowed to Fight in Female Div. At Paris Olympics

richaceg

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Probably! You cannot fix transphobia in 1 day.
You can't...probably not in a decade...if the trans wanted acceptance as part of society they need to find a ground to stand on...forcing people to consider them as women r men won't be the best step forward...
 
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It's quite simple really...let trans have the same employment opportunities as everyone else...the gap has been closer now than before...there are women military personnels etc etc... there are male nurses now too. but you can't pit women vs men...sports, combat. Trans are people too...they have rights, but they are not women and shouldn't be considered as...period.
We're not always on the same side of the political spectrum but that was well-stated, rich.
 

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The fact that we're equal is not the issue. Men and women have their own spaces, such as private all-girl schools, despite being equal.

Why? Because men and women are equal but different - in physicality and mind.

Men and women learn differently, they mature at different rates, they experience anxiety and phobias at different rates, they focus on things vs people and logic vs emotions differently, they have different rates of exceptionally dull and exceptionally high intelligence, they have vastly different mating strategies and libido, they engage in high risk behaviours at different rates, and on and on.

Setting aside physical capabilities, female spaces exist for good reason.
Not at all. They separate boys from the girls to avoid distraction. Better concentration, better result. Better it is for the school image. Classes are all the same and exam as well.

I went to religious private school. Emphasis on religious because this is where it all started. I learned Latin and made my prayers every morning 😇
 

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Like I said...I won't argue that you feel comfy...you're representing yourself...I'm sure out of 10 women....one won't be...what about them? Are we gonna only consider someone's feeling of identity over feeling of uneasiness? Why can't we aept trans as trans and not women or.men?
Yes, you need to get over your own uneasiness.
Its your problem, not theirs.

Personally, weirdos like this put me more at unease.
 

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' In highly-charged scenes at the North Paris Arena, Carini revealed afterwards that she had pulled out after after being hit harder than she had ever been hit before. A first punch dislodged her chinstrap and a second smashed against her chin and bloodied her shorts. '

' “I am heartbroken,” said Carini. “I went to the ring to honour my father. I was told a lot of times that I was a warrior but I preferred to stop for my health. I have never felt a punch like this.” The 25-year-old, from Naples, added: “I got into the ring to fight. I didn’t give up, but one punch hurt too much and so I said enough. I’m going out with my head held high. “After the second punch, after years of experience, I felt a strong pain in the nose. I said enough, because I didn’t want. I couldn’t finish the fight after the punch to the nose. So it was better to put an end to it. '

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/a...s-fight-after-46-seconds-against-imane-khelif
 
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She's a man. Disgusting not fair.

The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.

This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.

Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.

And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.


 
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I just finished watching the Khelif vs Carini fight.
  • Khelif is really arrogant.
  • Khelif looked physically stronger. And definitely was way faster.
  • I have to question Carini's heart for quitting so soon. But I have to respect her decision if she felt a safety issue for her well being.
 

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There's money getting a gold medal...There will be a lot more of this next olympics... we will see less and less biological female qualify for olympics....Judo, Karate, tae kwon do, wrestling and why stop there? let's see them get into team sports...basketball, soccer, rugby...
 
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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece

I don't understand why the Italian boxer accepted this match and after reading comments after the fight I still don't understand.

I sincerely hope that nobody gets seriously hurt going forward. I imagine the referees will be extremely vigilant in stoppages.
 

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There's money getting a gold medal...There will be a lot more of this next olympics... we will see less and less biological female qualify for olympics....Judo, Karate, tae kwon do, wrestling and why stop there? let's see them get into team sports...basketball, soccer, rugby...
It would be great if they had their own category. It would be the only time where women do better time/performance than men. They would also suddenly have the biggest sponsorship and audience as well. Not sure why they don't want it. 🤔
 

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It would be great if they had their own category. It would be the only time where women do better time/performance than men. They would also suddenly have the biggest sponsorship and audience as well. Not sure why they don't want it. 🤔
well look at you...at least you do recognize that they are not women and should have their own identity...that's the only way moving forward...and the sooner they accept that reality, the sooner we will see progress and acceptance...
 
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well look at you...at least you do recognize that they are not women and should have their own identity...that's the only way moving forward...and the sooner they accept that reality, the sooner we will see progress and acceptance...
No I am still aligning with my point lol. Which is that when it comes to sport, they shouldn't compete together. Nice try 😏
 
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No I am still aligning with my point lol. Which is that when it comes to sport, they shouldn't compete together. Nice try 😏
So you consider them women but they can't compete with women? LOL...this got confusing pretty fast... 😂 😂 😂 😂
 

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I would redirect you to my first post in this thread. Pretty sure it was clear for most.
Not really clear...are trans considered woman or not? if they are not, then society must treat them as trans and not women...it may not sound "delectable' to the ears but that's the first step. we needto be not afraid to point it out... that will actually help the trans community t... the key is to be fearless about it...
 
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