Now down to the short strokes, your last statement makes my point much beter than I can , between calling people names and spewing out regurgitated propaganda without something resembling individual thought you pretty much seal your own fate.
Be happy living in your cave living on weeds and slugs
I think my count on the "independent thought" score is pretty decent! I simply ask anyone to compare our posts on this issue and wonder who it is that is really just spewing out someone's else's thoughts. Similarly, shifter of dirt encounters a tough point by me, but instead of thinking it through, shifter of dirt just gives up and moves on (see the duck-and-weave in response to my point that climate deniers are playing with fire in their claims about vested interests). Lastly, propaganda? Pot calling the kettle black, indeed! In the global warming and sea level rising threads, I stuck to three things: some technical info to lend credibility to the global warming claim, debunking some very bad arguments against said claim, and some sarcastic replies to boneheaded arguments. The propaganda machine is coming from the climate deniers. And, yes, sometimes I get frustrated and call them funny names, but mostly, I make fun of our silly handles. Really, if you have something of value to say, just make a good argument and make people listen because of that quality argument.