U.S., EU agree to trade deal framework that puts 15% tariffs on European goods

richaceg

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boring.
the troll act is so old

Market isn't crashing...
Inflation - zero
Border - safe
Trump sending aide to Gaza
Higher approval rating than the DNC
already better than the last 5 presidents not named Trump...

 

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Market isn't crashing...
Inflation - zero
Border - safe
Trump sending aide to Gaza
Higher approval rating than the DNC
already better than the last 5 presidents not named Trump...

Market weak
Inflation rising
Border the same, still no wall or mass expulsions
trump paid $60 million to shoot people trying to get food
pro Palestine dems will kick GOP ass
worst ratings than even trump 1.0

 
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richaceg

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Give it time, El Risitas.

They knocked the TACO rate from 30% to 15% and made imaginary promises.
Your ignorance about making deals is telling...Hamas isn't known to make deals too...look what they did to Gaza...
 

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It appears he is overplaying his hand in dealing with Canada. Let's not allow this to dismiss the overall problem of the trade deficit with the rest of the world.

I suspect Trump's heavy-handed approach is personal. I can't believe he is concerned about Canadian dairy supply management. Perhaps Canada slimming down the military became personal.

Anyway, I would like to know if there are other explicit and implicit trade barriers beyond dairy.

When I say why don't most members support a common market, it's an objective goal post because we obviously have something in the middle and negotiated.
Dairy is a false problem that Trump continues to shout to whoever believes this 330-pound of orange fat who is unfortunately, the Potus.

The US government subsidizes dairy farmers and buys their oversupply. Which is often then simply wasted. But it keeps prices very low.

Canada controls dairy farmers with quotas in order to avoid oversupply. Also, U.S. ingredients cannot be guaranteed to be rbST-free (growth hormone), but Canadian producers do. Which makes for higher prices but a protected market.
 

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It appears he is overplaying his hand in dealing with Canada. Let's not allow this to dismiss the overall problem of the trade deficit with the rest of the world.

I suspect Trump's heavy-handed approach is personal. I can't believe he is concerned about Canadian dairy supply management. Perhaps Canada slimming down the military became personal.

Anyway, I would like to know if there are other explicit and implicit trade barriers beyond dairy.

When I say why don't most members support a common market, it's an objective goal post because we obviously have something in the middle and negotiated.
I agree it's personal. I think Trudeau was a factor. I can see those meme pictures of his wife and daughter looking at him affecting Trump.

But this goes back to his real estate days imo. I think he tried to do business in Canada and the banks up here saw right though him and denied him loans. Also Trump Towers failed here.

The thing about Trump is he hates a good deal where both sides win. He prefers to put one over on people. While that may work for a time in business, this is international relations. He just doesn't get that.
 

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Dairy is a false problem that Trump continues to shout to whoever believes this 330-pound of orange fat who is unfortunately, the Potus.

The US government subsidizes dairy farmers and buys their oversupply. Which is often then simply wasted. But it keeps prices very low.

Canada controls dairy farmers with quotas in order to avoid oversupply. Also, U.S. ingredients cannot be guaranteed to be rbST-free (growth hormone), but Canadian producers do. Which makes for higher prices but a protected market.
Generally, I am in agreement that the U.S, Canada and almost all industrialized countries subsidize, protect and/or provide price supports to agriculture. Some of this is the dynamic of farmers and those reliant on local agriculture being located in political districts where they bear a lot of political influence.
 
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I agree it's personal. I think Trudeau was a factor. I can see those meme pictures of his wife and daughter looking at him affecting Trump.

But this goes back to his real estate days imo. I think he tried to do business in Canada and the banks up here saw right though him and denied him loans. Also Trump Towers failed here.

The thing about Trump is he hates a good deal where both sides win. He prefers to put one over on people. While that may work for a time in business, this is international relations. He just doesn't get that.
I agree with you, but I'm sure there was more to why Trump Towers failed in Toronto. I don't think Canadian banks could have been the main reason.

For some reason, he had a great run developing mixed use hotel and condo properties. I don't know why someone would buy a condo for a premium just because the building had the name Trump. I think over time that premium dissipated as anyone rational would have expected.
 

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Generally, I am in agreement that the U.S, Canada and almost all industrialized countries subsidize, protect and/or provide price supports to agriculture. Some of this is the dynamic of farmers and those reliant on local agriculture being located in political districts where they bear a lot of political influence.
Its really only of import to people who think a country should be able to grow and produce their own food.
I suppose we could just feed everyone McDonalds instead.
 

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I agree with you, but I'm sure there was more to why Trump Towers failed in Toronto. I don't think Canadian banks could have been the main reason.

For some reason, he had a great run developing mixed use hotel and condo properties. I don't know why someone would buy a condo for a premium just because the building had the name Trump. I think over time that premium dissipated as anyone rational would have expected.
Sorry, when I discussed the banks I think he had tried and failed to get loans for other projects and they turned him down. Probably when he was scrambling to shore things up at a few points.

The Toronto Trump tower was just selling a brand name and management. He didn't build it.
 

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Generally, I am in agreement that the U.S, Canada and almost all industrialized countries subsidize, protect and/or provide price supports to agriculture. Some of this is the dynamic of farmers and those reliant on local agriculture being located in political districts where they bear a lot of political influence.
You can add softwood. This has been going on for decades and comes down to a few Senators who sell their votes for protectionism for their own state's production. It's probably 4 decades of this.
 

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You can add softwood. This has been going on for decades and comes down to a few Senators who sell their votes for protectionism for their own state's production. It's probably 4 decades of this.
This goes on with politicians all over the industrialized world for different products. That's why trade agreements are so difficult to negotiate. That's also why you will hear about trade negotiations long after Trump is gone. It will never end.
 
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