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People like Franky who thinks Ukraine is winning this war and "kicking ass" is obviously just following twitter feeds that agrees with his views... He only follows feeds he wants to hear...the fact here is both Russia and Ukraine aren't winning....but Ukraine is losing more...Russia is throwing bodies at them and when you do that, you are losing lives....Ukraine is defending to the best of how they can...but let's face it, the part of Ukraine is in desolation already. until ths conflict somehow reach an agreement...both sides will keep losing...
 
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People like Franky who thinks Ukraine is winning this war and "kicking ass" is obviously just following twitter feeds that agrees with his views... He only follows feeds he wants to hear...the fact here is both Russia and Ukraine aren't winning....but Ukraine is losing more...Russia is throwing bodies at them and when you do that, you are losing lives....Ukraine is defending to the best of how they can...but let's face it, the part of Ukraine is in desolation already. until ths conflict somehow reach an agreement...both sides will keep losing...
BINGO!

And to add to that Ukraine dont even publish their losses. All you hear about are NATO and US claims about Russian losses. They claim a 5 to 1 loss ratio. Actually they claimed 5 to 1, a few days ago I saw 7 to 1. Oh really? :ROFLMAO:
 

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BINGO!

And to add to that Ukraine dont even publish their losses. All you hear about are NATO and US claims about Russian losses. They claim a 5 to 1 loss ratio. Actually they claimed 5 to 1, a few days ago I saw 7 to 1. Oh really? :ROFLMAO:
There's no way that could be true!
I heard somewhere earlier on this board that Ukraine has lost 600 platoons and all 500 HIMARS!
 
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There's no way that could be true!
I heard somewhere earlier on this board that Ukraine has lost 600 platoons and all 500 HIMARS!
Who knows what they lost? They dont publish it. But yes Russia is losing SO BAD, that they are still there. Like, make it make sense.
 

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There's no way that could be true!
I heard somewhere earlier on this board that Ukraine has lost 600 platoons and all 500 HIMARS!
You keep beating the same drum Frank...Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass....while Russia is still firing rockets, bringing in infantry and tanks etc etc...If we only listen to what you're saying and what you're posting....Russia would've pulled out by last Christmas if it was all true....it isn't. Russia is still somehow hanging around because despite infantry loss and tanks and equipment...Putin thinks there's an upside to his campaign...despite the losses Russia is taking...
 
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How long has Russia been announcing the victory at Bakhmut?
As long as Ukraine has been announcing victory at Bakhmut.

BTW atleast I am presenting news from a 100 year old news organization.

You are presenting from Ukrainian Twitter Bots and the a guy named after the Ukrainian nazi battalions ? :ROFLMAO:
 

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As long as Ukraine has been announcing victory at Bakhmut.

BTW atleast I am presenting news from a 100 year old news organization.

You are presenting from Ukrainian Twitter Bots and the a guy named after the Ukrainian nazi battalions ? :ROFLMAO:
Just because a fake news source is old doesn't mean its good.

I do find it totally hilarious that if we post legit news sources you discount them as 'MSM' and therefore must be fake. If I post then post from OSINT type sources off of twitter then claim they aren't MSM so are fake news.
Meanwhile you're down to one source you think is legit, the Hindustan News, which has been repeatedly called out for posting bullshit.

ISW has updates sourced to Ukrainians and Russian milbloggers, they say Russia claims to have gained a tiny bit more of Bakhmut.
What is true is that Putin has dedicated a large part of his force to taking this one city and hasn't been able to do it yet.
And its still mud season.


 
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Just because a fake news source is old doesn't mean its good.

I do find it totally hilarious that if we post legit news sources you discount them as 'MSM' and therefore must be fake. If I post then post from OSINT type sources off of twitter then claim they aren't MSM so are fake news.
Meanwhile you're down to one source you think is legit, the Hindustan News, which has been repeatedly called out for posting bullshit.

ISW has updates sourced to Ukrainians and Russian milbloggers, they say Russia claims to have gained a tiny bit more of Bakhmut.
What is true is that Putin has dedicated a large part of his force to taking this one city and hasn't been able to do it yet.
And its still mud season.


I dont usually discount MSM. But on this issue they are promoting only one side of the story because most MSM are left leaning and they are promoting the democrat proxy war. And your argument is that because HT speaks to the other side, they are automatically fake news. So to you, anything you dont like to read, is fake news. That is kinda the Trumpian attitude to things.

And based on your source above, ISW says the Russia claims to have gained a little bit in Bakhmut. A few days ago HT reported that Russia gained like 5% more of Bakhmut. So it seems to me that HT is more accurate than any other western MSM just based on that.
 
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