Ukraine updates

[krealtarron]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the devastation that is going on in Ukraine thanks to your hero who for no apparent reason has decided to wipe out a country that meant him no harm. At the same time, it also does not take a rocket scientist to see that Russia underestimated Ukraine's will and the resolve of Nato to help a want to be a democratic country in need.

Ukraine is not a "democratic" country. It is a corrupt banana republic where elections are rigged and foreign interference is rife. But yes, Putin did underestimate Ukraine.

 

[squeezer]

Ukraine is not a "democratic" country. It is a corrupt banana republic where elections are rigged and foreign interference is rife. But yes, Putin did underestimate Ukraine.

Zelenski won fair and square I don't know what banana bullshit you're talking of. We can't say the same about your hero.

 

[krealtarron]

Zelenski won fair and square I don't know what banana bullshit you're talking of. We can't say the same about your hero.

I wouldn't call it fair. There has been enormous amounts of western interference since 2014.

And Putin is not my hero. As I have said numerous times but I guess you work on a "If you are not with us you are against us" policy, which is typical neocon mentality.

 

[squeezer]

I wouldn't call it fair. There has been enormous amounts of western interference since 2014.

And Putin is not my hero. As I have said numerous times but I guess you work on a "If you are not with us you are against us" policy, which is typical neocon mentality.

BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE

Five key things to know about Ukraine’s presidential election | Brookings

Ukraine is halfway through a presidential election: The first round took place on March 31, and the run-off is coming up on April 21. What's likely to happen?

www.brookings.edu

 

[krealtarron]

BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE

Five key things to know about Ukraine’s presidential election | Brookings

Ukraine is halfway through a presidential election: The first round took place on March 31, and the run-off is coming up on April 21. What's likely to happen?

www.brookings.edu

Every western source will tell you that the elections were "fair". Because it is per their prefernces.

 

[squeezer]

Every western source will tell you that the elections were "fair". Because it is per their prefernces.

Of course, I didn't expect a sensible response from you so it's all part of the Kremlin program you follow.

 

[krealtarron]

Of course, I didn't expect a sensible response from you so it's all part of the Kremlin program you follow.

I trust nothing from the west when it comes to Ukraine.

 

[Frankfooter]

Ukraine is not a "democratic" country. It is a corrupt banana republic where elections are rigged and foreign interference is rife. But yes, Putin did underestimate Ukraine.

And therefore only Putin can fix the problem.

 

[krealtarron]

And therefore only Putin can fix the problem.

Only Ukraine can fix the problem. If NATO and the US as well as Russia would stop meddling.

 

[Frankfooter]

Only Ukraine can fix the problem. If NATO and the US as well as Russia would stop meddling.

Russia did the meddling, with an army.
That's what needs fixing.

Putin says they haven't achieved their goals so no ceasefire.
Guess there are still Nazis there and NATO still exists.

Of course it has nothing to do with taking more of Donbas, Bakhmut or Kiev.

Russia says Ukraine ceasefire now would not achieve Moscow's goals

Russia said on Friday that a ceasefire in Ukraine would not enable it to achieve the goals of its "special military operation" at the moment.

www.reuters.com

 

[krealtarron]

Russia did the meddling, with an army.
That's what needs fixing.

They wouldn't have if not for NATO.

 

[Frankfooter]

They wouldn't have if not for NATO.

Ah, back to the wife beater's defence.
'She made me hit her'

 

[krealtarron]

Ah, back to the wife beater's defence.
'She made me hit her'

Nonsense, presuming NATO "innocence" is just plain naive.

 

[squeezer]

I trust nothing from the west when it comes to Ukraine.

You admit you despise Nato and do not trust anything that comes out of MSM except the ones that speak well of Russia and Putin correct? When they stand by Russia, then they are reporting the news or commentary correctly according to your little world.

 

[krealtarron]

You admit you despise Nato and do not trust anything that comes out of MSM except the ones that speak well of Russia and Putin correct? When they stand by Russia, then they are reporting the news or commentary correctly according to your little world.

They dont support Russia or report positively about them. None of the western media even talks about Ukrainian losses or issues with NATO.

From the west I only quote public intellectuals such as Chomsky or Mearsheimer.

 

[squeezer]

They dont support Russia or report positively about them. None of the western media even talks about Ukrainian losses or issues with NATO.

From the west I only quote public intellectuals such as Chomsky or Mearsheimer.

Did you forget your boys Tucker and Russel who you defended right on here as knowing what they are talking about? Yup, only the intellectuals for you, yup. LMFAO

 

[krealtarron]

Did you forget your boys Tucker and Russel who you defended right on here as knowing what they are talking about? Yup, only the intellectuals for you, yup. LMFAO

I never quoted Tucker. I simply said he was right in his opinions about Ukraine. I did quote Russell but only to use his argument as a starting point.

 

[PeteOsborne]

New Russian drone tanks ! They can be deployed in Ukraine!

These have been said to have already deployed in Ukraine but unused in combat to this point.
This is an untested battle system named the Marker robotic combat system.
Maybe they have improved their technology, since the previous model, the Uran-9, performed poorly in batlefield conditions in Syria in 2018.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a21602657/russias-tank-drone-performed-poorly-in-syria/
"Uran-9, bristling with guns and missiles, may look impressive but it has trouble with the fundamentals not only of armored warfare but warfare by remote control. The remote controlled combat vehicle lost contact with ground control stations, suffered from an unreliable gun and suspension system, and could not target enemies while on the move.
The problems were brought to light at a Russian security conference, “Actual Problems of Protection and Security” at the N.G. Kuznetsov Naval Academy in St. Petersberg. A.P. Anisimov, Senior Research Officer, the 3rd Central Research Institute of the Russian Defence Ministry, reported on Russia’s recent deployment of the Uran-9 unmanned ground vehicle (UGV) to Syria, where it had its combat debut."

 

[PeteOsborne]

I dont usually discount MSM. But on this issue they are promoting only one side of the story because most MSM are left leaning and they are promoting the democrat proxy war. And your argument is that because HT speaks to the other side, they are automatically fake news. So to you, anything you dont like to read, is fake news. That is kinda the Trumpian attitude to things.

And based on your source above, ISW says the Russia claims to have gained a little bit in Bakhmut. A few days ago HT reported that Russia gained like 5% more of Bakhmut. So it seems to me that HT is more accurate than any other western MSM just based on that.

Yes it is true Russia gained 5% of Bakhmut in 7 days of fighting.
To be clear that area is 2 sq km which is about 1/10 of the size of Central Park in New York City.
Yesterday, the only advancement in Bakhmut was on the southern front, the line moved 10 meters over a 100 meter wide section.

 

[Leimonis]

I never quoted Tucker. I simply said he was right in his opinions about Ukraine. I did quote Russell but only to use his argument as a starting point.