UN refuses to call for a CEASEFIRE
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Failed due to a US veto. FDR is spinning in his grave,,,
And there are some that actually argue that religions have never caused problems in the world, what a load of shit.
Im sure Franky will continue to claim that the US is subjugated by the Jewish lobby.
When you fuck around, you have to find out. A ceasefire is the worst thing you can ask for right now.
Also none of the sides actually want a ceasefire. Hamas has a raging boner over all their dead because that is the only way to gain sympathy from useful idiots in the west. Invade Israel, kill civies, take hostages then hide behind woman and children knowing full well they will die with the response that must happen, Israel can't do nothing. Human shields a history of refusing to evacuate civilians even when told an attack on a site is coming and of hiding behind human shields. Not as if they have any shot of winning an actual one on one military slog and there is no amount of terror that will have the Jews say, no mas, we will leave.
So yeah Hamas doesn't want a ceasefire. As for Israel, they sure as fuck don't want one either, sadly they are definately more concerned over Gaza civilian dead than Hamas are.
Kinda like when Poutards ask for a ceasefire in Ukraine, fuck that, not while Ukraine has a chance to push Russia out, which they could easily do if the west would stop messing about and go full retard with support.
Also none of the sides actually want a ceasefire. Hamas has a raging boner over all their dead because that is the only way to gain sympathy from useful idiots in the west. Invade Israel, kill civies, take hostages then hide behind woman and children knowing full well they will die with the response that must happen, Israel can't do nothing. Human shields a history of refusing to evacuate civilians even when told an attack on a site is coming and of hiding behind human shields. Not as if they have any shot of winning an actual one on one military slog and there is no amount of terror that will have the Jews say, no mas, we will leave.
So yeah Hamas doesn't want a ceasefire. As for Israel, they sure as fuck don't want one either, sadly they are definately more concerned over Gaza civilian dead than Hamas are.
Kinda like when Poutards ask for a ceasefire in Ukraine, fuck that, not while Ukraine has a chance to push Russia out, which they could easily do if the west would stop messing about and go full retard with support.
No, the UN was united.
Only Biden stopped the ceasefire.
This is entirely on Genocide Joe.
I have no idea, he says he's a christian but the pope says he's supporting terrorism.
The title of this thread is blatant hasbara trolling.
Biden stopped the ceasefire resolution with a veto.
Not the UN.
Israel would, yes; I have no doubt. The complaints about the uselessness of the UN don't stem from resolutions that pass, they stem from how hard it is to pass meaningful resolutions given the UNSC permanent member veto powers. When the UNSC does manage to pass resolutions, they are fairly effective.
If the UN had passed this resolution and Israel had refused to comply with it, the next step would be more Resolutions calling for various escalations and likely would include one calling for a peacekeeping mission. We've already seen those proposals over the years, in fact, but they've always been vetoed by the US. If this hadn't been vetoed, Israel risks the next one of those not being vetoed either. And I think Israel would do anything to avoid that because it's likely that a UN peacekeeping force would dismantle and end the illegal Israeli settlements in addition to positioning UN troops in places that make it impossible for Israel to carry out any meaningful offensive military campaign. Israel's best course of action, as I imagine it playing out in their mind, would have been to keep the UN from going any further on the subject and that means complying with the ceasefire resolution.
There'd be no shortage of countries willing to contribute to that peacekeeping force either, as Israel well knows. The top contributor of UN peacekeeping forces currently is Bangladesh who have stated they will not recognize Israel until Israel recognizes Palestine and ends the illegal occupations and settlements, and several other nations in the top 10 by troop contributions to the UN have said something similar.
Basically, the UN isn't designed to take physical action itself, it's designed to give justifications for member states to take actions. Afterall, by Article VII of the UN Charter, UNSC Resolution is the only legally justified reasons for military aggression. It only recognizes 2 other justifications, both of which are defensive and one of which is trumped by UNSC Resolution.
So yes, if the resolution had passed, signaling a shift in US policy and depriving Israel of the 1 ally that's been saving it from UN action, I think Israel would've stopped fairly quickly. Especially since, as anyone who really thinks about it knows, their goal of "eliminating Hamas" is unachievable; Hamas is largely an idealogy at this point. Much like how the National Socialist German Workers' Party was defeated in war and no longer exists yet there are still Nazis around, Israel can kill every single current member of Hamas and they'll still be the target of terrorist attacks in the name of Hamas in the future. Would they risk the UN actually doing the thing it's been threatening to do for decades, removing the Israeli settlements and returning the occupied land to Palestine, for a goal that can't be achieved? I don't think so.
35th US veto on behalf of Israel at the UN.
Israel still has 62 other UN resolutions they have never abided.
Without the US, Israel would on their own at the UN.
Biden will end his reelection hopes over this stance.
- After the Great March of Return in 2018, the UNSC drafted a resolution condemning “the use of any excessive, disproportionate and indiscriminate force by the Israeli forces against Palestinian civilians” and calling for “lasting, comprehensive peace” with “two democratic states, Israel and Palestine”. The US vetoed the resolution.
- After the US recognised Jerusalem as Israel’s capital in 2017, a draft resolution said “actions which purport to have altered the character, status or demographic composition of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal effect, are null and void”. It demanded the status of Jerusalem to be determined in line with UN regulations. All of the 15 UNSC members voted in favour except the US, which vetoed it.
- Following the second Intifada or uprising that started in 2000, a UNSC resolution expressed “grave concern at the continuation of the tragic and violent events that have taken place since September 2000”, condemned attacks against civilians and called for Israel “to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention”. Twelve countries voted in favour, but the US vetoed.
Holy fuck, Frank has gone full Trumptard.
OTOH if anyone knows anything about genocide around here it's Frankfooter and his unwavering support of the only people in the middle least who actually are aiming for genocide to the point of using children as human shields. I mean that is some Pol Potian level commitment to genocide.
Also that now he seems to be in favor of a psychotic like Trump as president, oy vey gevalt what a Meshuggah putz. Man Frankie is a guy who just loves the Hamas Genocidal program and is obsessed with his fantasies of exterminating the Jews.
I’d laugh at Frankie effectively helping Trump with his attacks on Joe but I also feel stupid because after tlaib and the squad and the universities woke hamas supporting bullshit I’m losing sympathy for democrats real quick although republicans still seem more openly disgusting with their constant populist lies
The established rules of the UN were followed.
As such, my statement stands. The UN REFUSED to call for a ceasefire.
It is what it is.
Hey fringie. Did the UN issue a resolution?
Stating the truth is the furthest thing from trolling. It is the truth. It is factual. It is what is recorded in the UN archives.
Hamas thought it was a good idea to pick a fight with a neighbour who seriously out guns them. All the women and children the terrorists are hiding behind will be slaughtered. hamas doesn't care about them. The body count will be minimum 200,000 civilians when the next temporary truce happens.
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I am lucky, fortunate and grateful to be born and living in Toronto during this period of history
If you can't show how the rules of the UN were not followed, then the bottom line is that:
The UN does not support a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
Suck on that, frank.
The rules of the UN were followed.
Can you show us what resolution the UN passed regarding a ceasefire?
If they passed no resolution, it means the UN supports no ceasefire. It is undeniable. Boo hoo for you.
So now we can make an update:
Israel is winning territorially
Israel is winning strategically
Israel is winning tactically
Israel is winning militarily
Israel is winning politically
Israel is winning intellectually
Israel is winning MORALLY
Israel is winning at the UN
Deal with it. You are supporting a totally losing cause.
Hamas are losing on each and every front. Hamas needs to surrender and release all hostages.
If you disagree, it means you are encouraging the deaths of more Palestinians.
It can be a million.
They followed the rules of the UN.
The UN did not pass a resolution supporting a ceasefire. Does that bother you? Don't you support the UN process?
