Unbelievable : Vancouver - drug infestation.
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It was pretty bad when I visited in June. I was downtown and I could see people shooting up in broad daylight.
Chatted with an Uber driver and he was surprised the Ontario govt doesn’t give out free drugs to the users like they do in Vancouver.
Chatted with an Uber driver and he was surprised the Ontario govt doesn’t give out free drugs to the users like they do in Vancouver.
If the Liberals or NDP were running Ontario they would.It was pretty bad when I visited in June. I was downtown and I could see people shooting up in broad daylight.
Chatted with an Uber driver and he was surprised the Ontario govt doesn’t give out free drugs to the users like they do in Vancouver.
Hate to burst your bubble....that was a BC initiative....Now, Trudeau deserves to be called out for his actual mistakes, but this isn't one of them.Good job Justin
Federal government had to approve the measure to make all narcotics legal. Provincial governments can not do that with out Federal approval.So that's on Justin.
This is how the Left show that they care.
Looks like their caring & inclusive initiative pf Safe Supply & Government run Injection is paying off in dividends.
I mean, it OBVIOUSLY works in places like San Francisco, why wouldn't it work here right?
www.sfchronicle.com
Just weird how the problem just keeps getting worse despite making it easier to use and obtain drugs. Who knew? Oops.
Looks like their caring & inclusive initiative pf Safe Supply & Government run Injection is paying off in dividends.
I mean, it OBVIOUSLY works in places like San Francisco, why wouldn't it work here right?
Tracking San Francisco’s drug overdose epidemic
The proliferation of fentanyl in recent years has driven a deadly drug overdose epidemic in San Francisco. The Chronicle is tracking accidental overdose deaths in the city to shed light on the crisis.
Just weird how the problem just keeps getting worse despite making it easier to use and obtain drugs. Who knew? Oops.
I was in Vancity back in 1999 and they were shooting up in broad daylight at Hastings and Main. The situation has probably gotten worse, but lets not gloss over the fact that heroine was a big problem back then, and actually even longer. And, I've seen similar street scenes in San Fransisco and LA. Drugs are a scourge to society.It was pretty bad when I visited in June. I was downtown and I could see people shooting up in broad daylight.
Chatted with an Uber driver and he was surprised the Ontario govt doesn’t give out free drugs to the users like they do in Vancouver.
Now, all that being said, I think the safe injection sites are not a horrible idea. They help mitigate the risk of overdoes deaths, which is good. They apparently help lower crime (I'm a little skeptical about that), and apparently they can help move people into addiction recovery (which is also good). I think Canada could learn a lot about how Portugal dealt with drugs (legalized it to much fanfare, but the results are mixed), mostly on the treatment side. There is probably no good solution, per se, but we should try doing things differently than what's been a total failure for the past 50 years...
The drugs are horrible regardless. It is a failed deteptive person form. We could just now execute everybody that does pot or worse. . Being legal we have all their names.
Who would have thought enabling drug addiction would make the drug epidemic worse? Canada is an empathetic nation. But this is what you get when empathy gets in the way of common sense. Empathy should be the motivation, not the actual solution.
Priority #1 should not be legalizing drugs, nor providing safe injection sites. Priority #1 should be providing avenues of escape, for those willing to take them. That means plenty of rehab facilities, mental health assistance, and job opportunities that allow them to be self-sufficient. Priority #2 should be forcibly removing those who don't willingly take those avenues of escape. Does that sound cruel? Well, I consider it far less cruel than enabling drug addicts to shoot up as much as they can, especially in public where they pose a danger not only to themselves, but also to others.
In countries that decriminalized hard drugs, success was dictated by the mitigation efforts they enacted at the same time, not by the decriminalization alone.
But on the bright side, we're getting a new art gallery. And we do need one.
Detailed design of new Vancouver Art Gallery outlined in formal application (RENDERINGS) | Urbanized (dailyhive.com)
Detailed design of new Vancouver Art Gallery outlined in formal application (RENDERINGS) | Urbanized (dailyhive.com)
Vancouver tried to be Canada's Amsterdam, but they missed the boat. Amsterdam has a whole battery of services available to addicts who want to get clean, they have had this infrastructure as long as I can remember. Very rarely do you see the zombie apocalypse on thier streets that Vancouver is dealing with. The BC government didn't think this thing through. Vancouver is also a divided city, much more so than Toronto.
You will see more dogshit on Amsterdam's streets than needles.
This is a human tragedy, such a wasted human resource. Besides the well meaning social policies which are enabling the drug crisis and are lethal both short term and long term.
Furthermore, the relative mild for Canada, Vancouver rainforest climate facilitates the street scene.with the non ambulatory due to drug stupor addicts sprawled on the sidewalks and back alleys being able to remain outside year round most days and if this was in other Canadian major cities, the subzero winters would cull the addicts on the street .
Furthermore, the relative mild for Canada, Vancouver rainforest climate facilitates the street scene.with the non ambulatory due to drug stupor addicts sprawled on the sidewalks and back alleys being able to remain outside year round most days and if this was in other Canadian major cities, the subzero winters would cull the addicts on the street .
Another human tragedy is the people that exploit and game the system for their own benefit. Just like there are lawyers, judges, and clerks in the judicial system that do not give a shit and are there to collect a paycheck. There are social workers that are there merely to do their time and collect a government pension. They truly do not give a shit or do not really care if they make a difference or not.
It’s truly sad. These people are addicted and in need of support and health services.
Can you imagine living in the cold of a vancouver winter? People are not there “by choice“ addiction is real. I imagine its a never ending cycle of feeding your bodies need and never quit being strong enough to make it off the streets or find your way to a healthy grounded situation
China and Mexicos fentanyl manufacturers should have assets seized and profits fed back into programs to help people heal….
Can you imagine living in the cold of a vancouver winter? People are not there “by choice“ addiction is real. I imagine its a never ending cycle of feeding your bodies need and never quit being strong enough to make it off the streets or find your way to a healthy grounded situation
China and Mexicos fentanyl manufacturers should have assets seized and profits fed back into programs to help people heal….
This is the exact reason that this and everything else will never be resolved. It`s a massive business, and business is really, really good.
Actually people are there "by choice" if you are referring to Vancouver. Milder climate where you can survive outside more easily than Edmonton. Welfare department in Alberta used to give their derelicts a one way bus ticket to Vancouver telling their "clients" to go to BC because they will receive a more hospitable welcome than staying in Alberta will get them.
