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This is something I've been yearning for...a set of ideas and beliefs that are universal in nature and would apply on any one of the billions of planets in our universe provided the inhabitants are capable of achieving the highest levels of spiritual and intellectual principles and beliefs by refining and integrating towards universal constants thus eliminating religious and personal biases.

While this video talks about earth and talks about examples relevant to us...I love some of the concepts presented here, especially about energy...it seems like it's not there yet, but points in the right direction towards this universal concept.

This is quite liberating... particularly the concept of love, selfless true love, positive, non judgmental, without expectations in your relationship...unconditional love, becoming peaceful and harmonious...etc...

Its amazing when you think of these kind of things and somebody repeats them back to you.

To qualify my bias I believe science is true whether you believe it or not. Although, my upbringing is catholic, I don't really practice it, and say and do many things that contradict the catholic or christian faith, my mind is yearning for a universal concept for spiritual and intellectual guidance. I have found my purpose, the meaning of life and am quite content with my current personal situation and my family.

What do you guys think, is it possible to refine oneself to a universal set of principles and beliefs. Religion brings about so much bias and problems in our world. Is it possible to have this universal mindset for spiritual and intellectual without personal or religious bias!?

GAWD, MPAs did this to me and I love it, they help connect it and bring these ideas together and help make sense of it all and strive towards the sense of enlightenment!!! I listen to all their struggles in life, each has a unique story, I observed, I saw, I felt them, I tried to feel their pain and happiness, I connected with some of them, and in return it helped me make sense of my own life, all the events, the different worlds I came from, all the struggles and joys of all events, and of why we do things we do now.

I don't hobby anymore, there is no harm in sharing this. Do what you wish with it. Although, I would love to hear some peoples constructive POVs on this.

 

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What do you guys think, is it possible to refine oneself to a universal set of principles and beliefs. Religion brings about so much bias and problems in our world. Is it possible to have this universal mindset for spiritual and intellectual without personal or religious bias!?
Atheism could be a partial answer to your quest.
I am not referring to militant atheism. One doesn't have to
tell the religious in their face there is no God to qualify
as an atheist. The mere absence of a God in our mindset
who is in control of world events and our destiny should be
sufficient enlightenment to liberate most of us from religious bias.
The ability of an atheist to discern the falsehoods spread by
organized religions could hopefully be the same quality that
enables them to be less inclined to be biased over non-religious
matters.
 

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Atheism could be a partial answer to your quest.
I am not referring to militant atheism. One doesn't have to
tell the religious in their face there is no God to qualify
as an atheist. The mere absence of a God in our mindset
who is in control of world events and our destiny should be
sufficient enlightenment to liberate most of us from religious bias.
The ability of an atheist to discern the falsehoods spread by
organized religions could hopefully be the same quality that
enables them to be less inclined to be biased over non-religious
matters.
I don't like this word. Its just another way of boxing your mind in and to a pre determined way of thinking with rules and limits. Somebody like Neil Degrasse Tyson says he is an atheist does not believe in God, however I see God in him particularly when he talks about how Carl Sagan inspired him to do what he does now becuase of that day he decided to pick Neil up as a little black kid from the Bronx on a very rainy day from a bust stop and Carl believed in Niel, somebody Neil looked up to and respected. Now Neil inspires millions, including me, through Carl's love of people and love of quest for knowledge and the truth. There is nothing wrong with having faith and also being a scientists, professional, or whatever other profession requires you to be firmly grounded to perform your duties and make the appropriate decisions. Faith can coexist in a separate pillar. We don't need to put a label on ourself or limit our minds like this in our quest for truth through silence and quest for spiritual energy enlightenment, however I respect that limits are what some may want and need.

I beleive there is a God, however I do not believe in religion. I can feel it all the the time all around me, I can see it, God is in all us of whether you believe it or not, it is in my core and my faith to believe in this. It does not matter what an atheist, a christian, a Muslim, a Hindu say to me, I know God exists the day I stopped to fear. What if each time we reincarnate, we refine ourself that much closer to one point, towards God. I believe that religion takes you away from God.

I would believe you if I did not feel the love of God in my life through all the shit I have experienced and saw.
 

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Morals are relative.

Morals tell you what is right or wrong and are relative and highly subjective. This is not about morals, this is about refining your beliefs and your spiritually towards the one, the singularity, the truth. I believe there does exist a universal set of principles and beliefs that guide you towards one singularity.
 

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Morals are relative.
as Hamlet said, while discussing the merits of the Denmark

Why, then, ’tis none to you, for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. To me it is a prison.


Although Buddhism claims to be a science, where is the science behind reincarnation and this made up concept called karma?

Why is not Nazis concept of eliminating the weak to create a super race not the superior path for the long term health of the human race?
 

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The only way towards the one is with love. Pass it on
Something like. When each being is first moved to do not what is best for themselves alone, but what is best for all — including themselves**— then we'll be getting somewhere. Something about 'do unto others…' comes to mind, as does 'loving your neighbour as yourself'.
 

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The only way towards the one is with love. Pass it on
I love this response. This is all you need, this is the key.

This video below is a perfect example of how love emerged from great tragety towards spiritual refinement...such a powerful scene.

 

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This is the fundamental base of most Religions, including what this spiritual Person was trying to tell us. Powerful scene.

 

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Something like. When each being is first moved to do not what is best for themselves alone, but what is best for all — including themselves**— then we'll be getting somewhere. Something about 'do unto others…' comes to mind, as does 'loving your neighbour as yourself'.
OK, so you achieve this state, and the loved ones around you achieve this too, then what? What is next from here? You find the meaning of life and your purpose then what?
 

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This is the fundamental base of most Religions, including what this spiritual Person was trying to tell us. Powerful scene.

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I like this one...God is in all of us, God is in the rain in the water, all around us...we can't really understand when we fear...

 

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OK, so you achieve this state, and the loved ones around you achieve this too, then what? What is next from here? You find the meaning of life and your purpose then what?
One of the other great truths is that living in the moment that is beats living in what was or what might be. When that moment arrives, and we're all unselfish and the meaning of life is known the I'll look for what's next.

But I have so much to do getting to that point, as do the folks I see around me, that I'm not worried about boredom on the way, or any pressing need to answer that one because it's just a blink beyond what I can see now.

It's about the journey, not the destination.
 

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One of the other great truths is that living in the moment that is beats living in what was or what might be. When that moment arrives, and we're all unselfish and the meaning of life is known the I'll look for what's next.

But I have so much to do getting to that point, as do the folks I see around me, that I'm not worried about boredom on the way, or any pressing need to answer that one because it's just a blink beyond what I can see now.

It's about the journey, not the destination.
Good answer, however if you do not really know the meaning of life and your purpose how will you be really able to savour the now.

I agree its important to live in the now and not get too high into the clouds that you loose touch with reality and miss out on your babies smiles your SOs fights etc....as long as you can love and are loved in return is all one really needs IMO.

Boredom is only the fear of self.
 

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Trying to define universal principles is another way of saying that we can find all of the answers. However, once someone believes that they have found all of the answers, they stop believing in the value of questions. This is the fundamental paradox that is the undoing of each and every organized religion or philosophy.

I think it is better to look for the right questions than to search for answers which may, at this time, be un-knowable or incomprehensible to us.
 

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Trying to define universal principles is another way of saying that we can find all of the answers. However, once someone believes that they have found all of the answers, they stop believing in the value of questions. This is the fundamental paradox that is the undoing of each and every organized religion or philosophy.

I think it is better to look for the right questions than to search for answers which may, at this time, be un-knowable or incomprehensible to us.
Yeah, maybe we are not ready for the answers in this dimension, because once we feel that we know everything we will lose our sense of purpose.

A great song comes to mind hearing this...


From songmeanings this description fits the best..."The theme is Existentialism. Existentialism is a philosophical movement which posits that individuals create the meaning and essence of their lives, as opposed to it being created for them by deities or authorities or defined for them by philosophical or theological doctrines. The man during the music video, is confined by his everyday jobs, but when he is most vulnerable on the street it hits him."

Some need the drive for the answers to their questions to feel challenged and have a purpose and keep digging to find new answers and keep uncovering new questions and new unknowns.

Maybe once you do get all the answers and a state of universal being, you become one with God and you cease to exist within this dimension.

Maybe mistakes make us human and are what keep us human.
 

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Some of you should research, the Power of Intention. This short story, is part of of it !

Teddy Stoddard (author unknown)

There is a story many years ago of an elementary teacher. Her name was Mrs. Thompson. And as she stood in front of her 5th grade class on her
very first day of school, she told the children a lie. Like most teachers, she looked at her students and said that she loved them all the same.
But that was impossible, because there in the front row, slumped in his seat, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard.
Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed that he didn't play well with the other children, that his clothes were messy and
that he constantly needed a bath. And Teddy could be unpleasant. It got to the point where Mrs.
Thompson would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then putting a big "F" at the top of his papers.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's past records and she put Teddy's off until last.
However, when she reviewed his file, she was in for a surprise. Teddy's first grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright child with a ready laugh.
He does his work neatly and has good manners... he is a joy to be around." His second grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student, well liked by his classmates,
but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle." His third grade teacher wrote, "His mother's death has been hard on him.
He tries to do his best but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken." Teddy's fourth grade teacher wrote,
"Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and sometimes sleeps in class."

By now, Mrs. Thompson realized the problem and she was ashamed of herself. She felt even worse when her students brought her Christmas presents,
wrapped in beautiful ribbons and bright paper, except for Teddy's. His present which was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper that he got from a grocery bag.
Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents. Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing,
and a bottle that was one quarter full of perfume. But she stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on,
and dabbing some of the perfume on her wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed after school that day just long enough to say, Mrs.
Thompson, today you smelled just like my Mom used to." After the children left she cried for at least an hour.

On that very day, she quit teaching reading, and writing, and arithmetic. Instead, she began to teach children. Mrs. Thompson paid particular attention to Teddy.
As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. By the end of the year,
Teddy had become one of the smartest children in the class and, despite her lie that she would love all the children the same, Teddy became one her "teacher's pets."

A year later, she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that she was still the best teacher he ever had in his whole life.
Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy. He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still the best teacher he ever had in his whole life.
Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would soon graduate from college with the highest of honors.
He assured Mrs. Thompson that she was still the best and favorite teacher he ever had in his whole life. Then four more years passed and yet another letter came.
This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still the best and favorite teacher he ever had.
But now his name was a little longer-the letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, M.D.

The story doesn't end there. You see, there was yet another letter that spring. Teddy said he'd met this girl and was going to be married.
He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit in the place at the wedding that was usually reserved for the mother of the groom.
Of course, Mrs. Thompson did. And guess what? She wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing.
And she made sure she was wearing the perfume that Teddy remembered his mother wearing on their last Christmas together.
They hugged each other, and Dr. Stoddard whispered in Mrs. Thompson's ear, "Thank you Mrs. Thompson for believing in me.
Thank you so much for making me feel important and showing me that I could make a difference." Mrs. Thompson, with tears in her eyes,
whispered back. She said, "Teddy, you have it all wrong. You were the one who taught me that I could make a difference. I didn't know how to teach until I met you."
 

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@titalian This is so beautiful and touching...makes it very hard to continue work without water in my eyes...thx for sharing.
 
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